A skeptical look at the mediumship claims of Julie Beischel

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A skeptical look at the mediumship claims of Julie Beischel

Postby Whitedude » Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:09 pm

Hi folks,

Has anyone heard of Julie Beischel? Well she appears to be a spiritualist who has claimed "evidence" that mediums can contact the dead. She is the co-owner of a psychic organisation called The Windbridge Institute that can be found here:

http://www.windbridge.org/index.htm

You can read an interview with Bieschel here:

http://www.evidencefortheafterlife.com/ ... e-beischel

A video of her here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbwa4EVfVjw

See her publications here:

http://www.windbridge.org/publications.htm

They are all published parapsychology or new age journals.

Any thoughts?
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Re: A skeptical look at the mediumship claims of Julie Beisc

Postby Daedalus » Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:43 pm

This seems like pretty typical woo... the more you dig the more you {!#%@} you uncover.
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Re: A skeptical look at the mediumship claims of Julie Beisc

Postby octopus1 » Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:35 pm

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Re: A skeptical look at the mediumship claims of Julie Beisc

Postby kennyc » Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:55 pm

Well given the charter statement:

The Windbridge Institute investigates the capabilities of our bodies, minds, and spirits and attempts to determine how the resulting information can best serve all living things.


I can't help but think of the Damon Knight story To Serve Man:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Serve_M ... light_Zone)
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Re: A skeptical look at the mediumship claims of Julie Beisc

Postby Shen1986 » Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:07 am

Really great work. Thanks..
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Re: A skeptical look at the mediumship claims of Julie Beisc

Postby Exploding Borealis » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:03 pm

I see nothing substantive in this thread regarding criticisms of Beischel. I see only broadbrush references to thing such as RationalWiki and "woo meisters" such as Tsakiris and "sloppy" research "ignoring any evidence of fraud" and the Weybridge Institute being an "utter fraud." I see no specific detailed examples.

You all need to provide details about this. I read Beischel's book, and I saw nothing suggestive of what you are alleging.

Provide some actual, specific examples. Are you a knee-jerk, lazy-thinking pseudoskeptics, or are you a sincere investigators? Do you all follow the party line of pseudoskepticism like a bleating sheep, or do you seek the truth with an unbiased eye? Which is it going to be? Your call.

Skepticism runs both ways. "Skeptic" can just be a word for a closed-minded knee-jerk thinker. We must be skeptical about skeptical assertions.

Details, please. Providing Google links is not providing details.

Get cracking.

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Re: A skeptical look at the mediumship claims of Julie Beisc

Postby Pyrrho » Thu Mar 06, 2014 12:00 am

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Re: A skeptical look at the mediumship claims of Julie Beisc

Postby Kaepora Gaebora » Thu Mar 06, 2014 12:36 am

Exploding Borealis wrote:Details, please. Providing Google links is not providing details.

Get cracking.


Oh wow a newbie demanding us to do things! We should drop everything and investigate these claims just for this guy.

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Re: A skeptical look at the mediumship claims of Julie Beisc

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Kaepora Gaebora wrote:
Exploding Borealis wrote:Details, please. Providing Google links is not providing details.

Get cracking.


Oh wow a newbie demanding us to do things! We should drop everything and investigate these claims just for this guy.

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Re: A skeptical look at the mediumship claims of Julie Beisc

Postby Gord » Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:19 am

I am a knee-jerk, lazy, sincere investigator who follows the party line of seeking the truth with an unbiased bleat.
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Re: A skeptical look at the mediumship claims of Julie Beisc

Postby Whitedude » Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:41 am

Provide some actual, specific examples. Are you a knee-jerk, lazy-thinking pseudoskeptics, or are you a sincere investigators? Do you all follow the party line of pseudoskepticism like a bleating sheep, or do you seek the truth with an unbiased eye? Which is it going to be? Your call.


Now that you have raised the subject I will spend some time listing the evidence. I have read her book. Expect a reply in the next few days.
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Re: A skeptical look at the mediumship claims of Julie Beisc

Postby busterggi » Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:17 pm

Exploding Borealis wrote:I see nothing substantive in this thread regarding criticisms of Beischel. I see only broadbrush references to thing such as RationalWiki and "woo meisters" such as Tsakiris and "sloppy" research "ignoring any evidence of fraud" and the Weybridge Institute being an "utter fraud." I see no specific detailed examples.

You all need to provide details about this. I read Beischel's book, and I saw nothing suggestive of what you are alleging.

Provide some actual, specific examples. Are you a knee-jerk, lazy-thinking pseudoskeptics, or are you a sincere investigators? Do you all follow the party line of pseudoskepticism like a bleating sheep, or do you seek the truth with an unbiased eye? Which is it going to be? Your call.

Skepticism runs both ways. "Skeptic" can just be a word for a closed-minded knee-jerk thinker. We must be skeptical about skeptical assertions.

Details, please. Providing Google links is not providing details.

Get cracking.


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Re: A skeptical look at the mediumship claims of Julie Beisc

Postby openmindedscientist » Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:01 pm

Whitedude wrote:
Provide some actual, specific examples. Are you a knee-jerk, lazy-thinking pseudoskeptics, or are you a sincere investigators? Do you all follow the party line of pseudoskepticism like a bleating sheep, or do you seek the truth with an unbiased eye? Which is it going to be? Your call.


Now that you have raised the subject I will spend some time listing the evidence. I have read her book. Expect a reply in the next few days.


Interesting, never got a follow up on this. Did you have trouble finding good argument points during the past couple years?


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