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6inch Aliens?

Postby Alexander941 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:42 pm

Found that on many websites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ-t03Hxles

Is there anything about that thing which is more reliable than those over enthusiastic people?
Has anyone from the "outside" took a look on it?

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Re: 6inch Aliens?

Postby Poodle » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:54 pm

I have a good few six-inch nails which may have come from its parents.

Had it survived, it may have grown another foot by the time it reached the age of ten.

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Re: 6inch Aliens?

Postby Matthew Ellard » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:02 am

Alexander941 wrote: Has anyone from the "outside" took a look on it?


Yes. The perpetrator is Steve Greer a well known UFO hoaxer.

Debunk
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Re: 6inch Aliens?

Postby salomed » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:56 am

Alexander941 wrote:Found that on many websites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ-t03Hxles

Is there anything about that thing which is more reliable than those over enthusiastic people?
Has anyone from the "outside" took a look on it?


It is interesting for sure. This little fella is the centerpiece of Greer's movie which comes on Monday.

I see it as like the Starchild Skull: Either an awesome hoax or an alien.

They are here, any they are tiny!
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Re: 6inch Aliens?

Postby kennyc » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:21 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:
Alexander941 wrote: Has anyone from the "outside" took a look on it?


Yes. The perpetrator is Steve Greer a well known UFO hoaxer.

Debunk
http://www.ufowatchdog.com/steven_greer.htm

Steve Greer Website
http://www.cseti.org/



Too bad he didn't add in e-meters and auditing....
he coulda been big.
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Re: 6inch Aliens?

Postby salomed » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:41 pm

kennyc wrote:
Matthew Ellard wrote:
Alexander941 wrote: Has anyone from the "outside" took a look on it?


Yes. The perpetrator is Steve Greer a well known UFO hoaxer.

Debunk
http://www.ufowatchdog.com/steven_greer.htm

Steve Greer Website
http://www.cseti.org/



Too bad he didn't add in e-meters and auditing....
he coulda been big.
:lol:



I can't say I like Greer's manners or methods; but let us not adhominize the purported evidence.
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Postby kennyc » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:52 pm

There's a wonderful essay in Loren Eiseley's - The Immense Journey called 'LITTLE MEN AND FLYING SAUCERS' along the same lines as the 'evidence' in this thread.

If anyone is interested it is on line here: http://www.american-buddha.com/little.men.htm

I highly recommend the entire book while even though a bit dated as far as science it is pure poetry in execution!

More of his work at that same website:
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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:08 pm

So, not a Ron Jeremy thread.
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Postby kennyc » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:10 pm

Well it's not the length of the aliens, it's how you use them.

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kennyc wrote:Well it's not the length of the aliens, it's how you use them.

;)

"I'm not saying it's huge."

"But it's huge!"
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Postby salomed » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:37 pm

So you guys think 6 inches is huge. Quelle surprise;)
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salomed wrote:So you guys think 6 inches is huge. Quelle surprise;)

I was referring to Ron Jeremy, Mr. Donkey Dick.
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Re: 6inch Aliens?

Postby salomed » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:16 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
salomed wrote:So you guys think 6 inches is huge. Quelle surprise;)

I was referring to Ron Jeremy, Mr. Donkey Dick.


I would reply with a reply of your stature, but it's simply not girth it.
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Re: 6inch Aliens?

Postby Alexander941 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:29 pm

Funny! Who knows maybe we just didnt notice them because they are so small :-)
Maybe this guy is a giant amongst dwarfs, and all the others who tried to make first contact and have been stomped by people who thought they were spiders, or mutant mice.

This maybe a good idea for a SF-Novel...

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Postby salomed » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:30 pm

Alexander941 wrote:Funny! Who knows maybe we just didnt notice them because they are so small :-)
Maybe this guy is a giant amongst dwarfs, and all the others who tried to make first contact and have been stomped by people who thought they were spiders, or mutant mice.

This maybe a good idea for a SF-Novel...


Ya! But St Adams kinda wrote that idea:)
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Re: 6inch Aliens?

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salomed wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
salomed wrote:So you guys think 6 inches is huge. Quelle surprise;)

I was referring to Ron Jeremy, Mr. Donkey Dick.


I would reply with a reply of your stature, but it's simply not girth it.

Hey, 6" in diameter is a respectable willy. For a human.
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Postby Gord » Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:35 am

Mom, Dad, Grandma, Patti, Nancy, I'd like to talk about my dick. It's about this wide.
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salomed wrote: I see it as like the Starchild Skull: Either an awesome hoax or an alien.


I'm fairly sure that the hands are from a 1/6th scale plastic kit. "Hands" are particularly hard to sculpture and 1/6th scale is common scale in figurines. However the "give away" is the short Tibia compared to long Femur bones. This identifies the body of the model as the 1/6th scale "Coo Models" skeleton soldier model from Jason and the Argonauts, which shares the same proportion problem. The hands are from something else.

I'm pretty sure the head, limb joints and "neck fillings" are made of dyed candle wax. This is a simple technique for modeling heads as you can build up muscles, eyelids etc. It gives the same translucence as skin. Ask Madame Tussaud!

The hoaxer has done a pretty good job but will not let the camera linger on the "alien's" hands or joints which will be the give-away. The joints have simply had soft black candle wax pushed into them to hide the articulation on the original skeleton model.
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Postby scrmbldggs » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:47 am

An alien from Greek myths... lol.

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Re: 6inch Aliens?

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Matthew Ellard wrote:I'm fairly sure that the hands are from a 1/6th scale plastic kit. "Hands" are particularly hard to sculpture and 1/6th scale is common scale in figurines. However the "give away" is the short Tibia compared to long Femur bones. This identifies the body of the model as the 1/6th scale "Coo Models" skeleton soldier model from Jason and the Argonauts, which shares the same proportion problem. The hands are from something else.

I'm pretty sure the head, limb joints and "neck fillings" are made of dyed candle wax. This is a simple technique for modeling heads as you can build up muscles, eyelids etc. It gives the same translucence as skin. Ask Madame Tussaud!

The hoaxer has done a pretty good job but will not let the camera linger on the "alien's" hands or joints which will be the give-away. The joints have simply had soft black candle wax pushed into them to hide the articulation on the original skeleton model.
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Ok, so fairly sure and pretty sure... do you have any evidence of any of the models, for example a picture of one part of a known model that we can map to a part of the little dude? That could be a knock down refutation... which is better than being just fairly pretty sure.

We wouldnt even need to refute the xray picture or the cat scan or even the purported DNA.

Let's be clear here; this possible hoax comes at us from a number of angles, it aint just a jpeg.

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Postby Rob Lister » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:29 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
salomed wrote:So you guys think 6 inches is huge. Quelle surprise;)

I was referring to Ron Jeremy, Mr. Donkey Dick.

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Rob Lister wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
salomed wrote:So you guys think 6 inches is huge. Quelle surprise;)

I was referring to Ron Jeremy, Mr. Donkey Dick.

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salomed wrote: Ok, so fairly sure and pretty sure... do you have any evidence of any of the models, for example a picture of one part of a known model that we can map to a part of the little dude? That could be a knock down refutation... which is better than being just fairly pretty sure.
The photo I included above is the model used. It has the same proportion problem with the Tibia and Femur as the hoax alien. Both are 1/6 scale. I was able to quickly find the model because although 1/6 scale models of soldiers are popular there are only two 1/6 scale skeletons on the market. I knew this from "Military Modelling" an English magazine I subscribe to. A figurine sculptor will buy a skeleton and build it up using wax, cast it and sell copies on the market. The hoaxer has followed the "step by step" instructions in "Military Modelling". The "give-away" is the wax pushed into the joints on the hoax alien's armature.

salomed wrote:We wouldnt even need to refute the xray picture or the cat scan or even the purported DNA.
Plastic and wax models do not have DNA. Neither does the hoax alien if you bothered to read Steve Greer's website. Steve Greer does not mention any "laboratory" testing the DNA, but rather one bloke, who also isn't named.

I'm not sure if the "X-Ray" is CAD or if a plastic skeleton will leave an image through a wax covering. There is only one fuzzy "X-ray" photo and it does not show the hoax alien's hands. It is the hands that will end this scam.


salomed wrote: Let's be clear here; this possible hoax comes at us from a number of angles, it aint just a jpeg.
It has all come from Steve Greer. The photos come from Steve Greer. The "story" about the DNA test came from Steve Greer. Would you like to link us to an independent site you found that justifies your comment "coming at us from a number of angles"? No? Has Mr Greer named the laboratory doing the DNA tests? Nope.

You do realise Steve Greer was the man who could command UFOs to land on call but won't until enough people have paid him course fees to train as "Interstellar ambassadors"? You also realise Steve Greer claimed claimed that, through telepathic communication he learned from aliens, that US Special Forces were storming an alien base under Colorado's Blanca Mountain using deadly sarin gas and that it backfired on them so they hid all the evidence! ( The plot from the movie "Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind").


salomed wrote: Are you looking forwards to Debunking Sirius when it comes out on Montag?
Nope. I'm mixing Tamiya acrylic "Dunkelgelb" paint with soft wax to see if I get the same colour and texture as the hoax alien. "Dunkelgelb or "dark yellow" is the colour of all German tanks and equipment after late 1942. All modellers have a bucket of dunkelgelb. The lazy hoaxer appears to have used dunkelgelb straight out of the tin for the alien. This makes me even more suspicious that an experienced modeller made the fake alien.
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Re: 6inch Aliens?

Postby Matthew Ellard » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:38 am

It's a hoax. There is a still photo of the screen of a "CT scan" of the alien. The fuzzy text on the screen identifies it as "CPSI Dr Manchon" and the date in September 2012. I found this clinic in Barcelona. From there I found that the "little alien" has already part of a Spanish TV hoax called "La Noria" in 2004.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... CdRVMj53i0

The creature was owned by Ramón Navia-Osorio who runs IIEE, a Spanish UFO fan club. He bought it from a bar owner in Iquique. It was already taken to the Spanish Academy of Sciences on 5th July 2004 as dismissed as a hoax in a report that is obtainable from IIEE. The scientists sign their names to this report.

Steve Greer has renamed the creature 6" Alien" and is simply trying to make money from a new documentary. He is pretending that the creature is "new". It isn't.

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Agreed about the modelling. I've seen plenty of miniatures that look a lot more real than what has been presented.

I also always love the "mysterious" undisclosed place that regularly gets used.

Any DNA sequence that is found on earth? Considering we have only sequenced a very, very small portion of ALL the animals on our world and haven't discovered every animal that exists, that is a pretty lofty and untrue statement one could make for an argument.

Man you'd figure that the media outlets would be swarming on this story. I mean this information is so readily available that some guy on Youtube has it.

I also can't wait for the peer review papers, I'll be with bated breath waiting for those.
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Re: 6inch Aliens?

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Matthew Ellard wrote:
salomed wrote: Ok, so fairly sure and pretty sure... do you have any evidence of any of the models, for example a picture of one part of a known model that we can map to a part of the little dude? That could be a knock down refutation... which is better than being just fairly pretty sure.
The photo I included above is the model used. It has the same proportion problem with the Tibia and Femur as the hoax alien. Both are 1/6 scale. I was able to quickly find the model because although 1/6 scale models of soldiers are popular there are only two 1/6 scale skeletons on the market. I knew this from "Military Modelling" an English magazine I subscribe to. A figurine sculptor will buy a skeleton and build it up using wax, cast it and sell copies on the market. The hoaxer has followed the "step by step" instructions in "Military Modelling". The "give-away" is the wax pushed into the joints on the hoax alien's armature.

salomed wrote:We wouldnt even need to refute the xray picture or the cat scan or even the purported DNA.
Plastic and wax models do not have DNA. Neither does the hoax alien if you bothered to read Steve Greer's website. Steve Greer does not mention any "laboratory" testing the DNA, but rather one bloke, who also isn't named.

I'm not sure if the "X-Ray" is CAD or if a plastic skeleton will leave an image through a wax covering. There is only one fuzzy "X-ray" photo and it does not show the hoax alien's hands. It is the hands that will end this scam.


salomed wrote: Let's be clear here; this possible hoax comes at us from a number of angles, it aint just a jpeg.
It has all come from Steve Greer. The photos come from Steve Greer. The "story" about the DNA test came from Steve Greer. Would you like to link us to an independent site you found that justifies your comment "coming at us from a number of angles"? No? Has Mr Greer named the laboratory doing the DNA tests? Nope.

You do realise Steve Greer was the man who could command UFOs to land on call but won't until enough people have paid him course fees to train as "Interstellar ambassadors"? You also realise Steve Greer claimed claimed that, through telepathic communication he learned from aliens, that US Special Forces were storming an alien base under Colorado's Blanca Mountain using deadly sarin gas and that it backfired on them so they hid all the evidence! ( The plot from the movie "Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind").


salomed wrote: Are you looking forwards to Debunking Sirius when it comes out on Montag?
Nope. I'm mixing Tamiya acrylic "Dunkelgelb" paint with soft wax to see if I get the same colour and texture as the hoax alien. "Dunkelgelb or "dark yellow" is the colour of all German tanks and equipment after late 1942. All modellers have a bucket of dunkelgelb. The lazy hoaxer appears to have used dunkelgelb straight out of the tin for the alien. This makes me even more suspicious that an experienced modeller made the fake alien.
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OIC So you think that's the actual model.

I am very excited to see this movie.
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Hex wrote:Man you'd figure that the media outlets would be swarming on this story.


Not if the media is conttrolled by the people who dont want the alien reality known... etc
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Re: 6inch Aliens?

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salomed wrote:
Hex wrote:Man you'd figure that the media outlets would be swarming on this story.


Not if the media is conttrolled by the people who dont want the alien reality known... etc

I've lost faith, simply because some wacko on the internet let the cat out of the bag. Are we to suspect that this guy is going to mysteriously disappear?

Even then I'm sure that someone else has probably archived the video.

On the bright side, we don't have to be subjugated by this guy on Youtube anymore.
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Postby Alexander941 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:08 pm

Personally, as a Hobbymodeler I dont think that this thing is made of wax, it looks more like translucent Fimo, and if i have enough time this month i will make something similar myself (and maybe sell it to someone :-)

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Postby kennyc » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:14 pm

Alexander941 wrote:Personally, as a Hobbymodeler I dont think that this thing is made of wax, it looks more like translucent Fimo, and if i have enough time this month i will make something similar myself (and maybe sell it to someone :-)



Don't sell it! Charge them to see it!

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Alexander941 wrote:Personally, as a Hobbymodeler I dont think that this thing is made of wax, it looks more like translucent Fimo, and if i have enough time this month i will make something similar myself (and maybe sell it to someone :-)


Fimo needs to be baked. It's OK if you build a figurine up from a metal armature but not so useful if you include multimedia like plastic and resin bits, as they melt. Also, because heads and hands are so hard to carve most figurine sculptors still buy commercial spare heads & hands in resin and only sculpt the body.

These are 1/35 heads and they are the size of your little finger's fingernail.
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Which one is you? :-P

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Re: 6inch Aliens?

Postby Matthew Ellard » Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:48 pm

salomed wrote:
Hex wrote:Man you'd figure that the media outlets would be swarming on this story.
Not if the media is conttrolled by the people who dont want the alien reality known... etc
The only person controlling the media is the con artist Steve Greer so as to make a profit from gullible people.

Do you honestly think that an "alien" is going to have a 1/6 scale human skeleton?
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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:55 pm

kennyc wrote:
Alexander941 wrote:Personally, as a Hobbymodeler I dont think that this thing is made of wax, it looks more like translucent Fimo, and if i have enough time this month i will make something similar myself (and maybe sell it to someone :-)



Don't sell it! Charge them to see it!

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Yeah. It's like the rookie prostitute mistake, selling her body instead of renting it.
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Re: 6inch Aliens?

Postby Alexander941 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:39 am

@Matthew Ellard
I think he didnt use plastic or stuff which would melt at 130°C for that thing, and maybe the jason-Skeletons can handle that heat. I wouldnt use wax to make it look like skin, not that it wouldnt look good, but if you want to make an alien autopsy Video you dont want your alien too look like wax and deform while you take it apart :-)

Oh and btw:
I found this Alien-mummy in a frozen Fish-Stick package, so i call him "The Spanish Fish-Alien"
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/19042013061.jpg

Just to see if this could be done on the run and look convincing enough, it took around 2hours (30min to bake him) to make that thing and it was inspired by that Time-travel-Dinosaur-Show from the late 70ies.
I tried to make him look like a mummy but i think he looks like beef jerky :-)

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Re: 6inch Aliens?

Postby scrmbldggs » Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:58 am

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Matthew Ellard wrote:These are 1/35 heads and they are the size of your little finger's fingernail. [/color]
Spare heads.jpg

Hey, Kenny. The one on the left looks like he's going to end up on WallStreet and the name of the one on the right could be Patrick, eh? ;)

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Re: 6inch Aliens?

Postby kennyc » Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:02 am

scrmbldggs wrote:
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Matthew Ellard wrote:These are 1/35 heads and they are the size of your little finger's fingernail. [/color]
Spare heads.jpg

Hey, Kenny. The one on the left looks like he's going to end up on WallStreet and the name of the one on the right could be Patrick, eh? ;)

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Faking aliens / Dead or Alive!

Postby Matthew Ellard » Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:25 am

Alexander941 wrote: @Matthew Ellard
I think he didnt use plastic or stuff which would melt at 130°C for that thing, and maybe the jason-Skeletons can handle that heat. I wouldnt use wax to make it look like skin, not that it wouldnt look good, but if you want to make an alien autopsy Video you dont want your alien too look like wax and deform while you take it apart :-)
I used to read a lot of film magazines on physical special effects. It is really interesting how different special effects experts solve problems concerning "human goo" and "aliens". The aliens in "Close encounters of the 3rd kind" were terrible. The same man made the aliens for "Alien". He simply added sloppy gelatin and stretched condoms and the alien was very convincing. As for "human goo" I think the best solutions were invented for "The Thing" remake. You simply use animal organs flooded with blood coloured gelatin and film the actors faces responding to "goo"!

A young Stephen Spielberg made some real good points about faking monsters when he was making Jaws. He said that people kept delivering him realistic looking sharks that were all static. As a film maker he needed a monster that could move. He ended up with six sharks, each with its own "movement trick".

The 6" alien model has already failing as it gets more exposure. In this hilarious sequence from the movie, a tiny black of hard gelatin, with squared off edges, is pulled out of the alien's head and has no connecting tissue.

Forward to 1.50 to see this scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Z8wZrCCv0#!



Alexander941 wrote: Oh and btw:
I found this Alien-mummy in a frozen Fish-Stick package, so i call him "The Spanish Fish-Alien"
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/19042013061.jpg
The image wasn't up there when I clicked. I'd like to see this image.

Alexander941 wrote: Just to see if this could be done on the run and look convincing enough, it took around 2hours (30min to bake him) to make that thing and it was inspired by that Time-travel-Dinosaur-Show from the late 70ies.
The show was "Land of the lost" (1974). Daytime soap dramas in the USA were converting to video. "Land of the Lost" was shot on video so they could use cheap "blue screen" matting effects for the stop animated dinosaurs. Here is the opening title sequence and it is absolutely shithouse.

Land of the lost (1974)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF-ZBHIfTa0

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Re: Faking aliens / Dead or Alive!

Postby kennyc » Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:29 am

Matthew Ellard wrote:....The show was "Land of the lost" (1974). Daytime soap dramas in the USA were converting to video. "Land of the Lost" was shot on video so they could use cheap "blue screen" matting effects for the stop animated dinosaurs. Here is the opening title sequence and it is absolutely shithouse.

Land of the lost (1974) [/color]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF-ZBHIfTa0



I loved that show! :mrgreen:
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Re: 6inch Aliens?

Postby scrmbldggs » Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:32 am

Alex, that's one creepy looking thing, lol .. Matt, "Continue to the media".


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