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Re: End of debate?

Postby snooziums » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:37 am

megaresp wrote:And perhaps his wife's mother in law?


His wife's mother-in-law would be his mother...

Think about it.
Reviewing the massive amount of unsubstantiated or anecdotal claims, testimony, non-validated observational data, and philosophical studies, they actually suggest the existence of such an entity as the "soul." Although it cannot be determined what it is or if it is factual or not, it is my personal belief that there may very well be something there, and that it is worth looking into.

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Re: End of debate?

Postby bigtim » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:15 pm

snooziums wrote:
megaresp wrote:And perhaps his wife's mother in law?


His wife's mother-in-law would be his mother...

Think about it.


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Cigars rusty spikes and your helpless child.

Postby jenthehero » Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:55 pm

How strong you are to endure such so do you let your 8 year old blonde daughter smoke cigars? As big and powerful as you are do you let your small son play in the den with the rusty spikes or you handguns?

Quit acting tough.

This is not a game of one-up-manship this is about the health of your kids and your grandkids.

Dear Sirs:

I have been a licensed Texas Attorney since 1971, and formerly was an Assistant U.S.Attorney with the U.S. Department of Justice, serving directly under The Honorable William S. Sessions, the former U.S. FBI Director. My personal Aspartame story is published on <http://www.dorway.com>www.dorway.com at this link: <http://www.dorway.com/lawyer1.html>http://www.dorway.com/lawyer1.html. Please see it. The telephone contact numbers at the bottom of the article are out of date, however my current contact information is below. Feel free to call me.

My CV is currently published in Who's Who in American Law, Who's Who in the World, and several other Marquis Who's Who Publications, as well as the most current Biltmore Registry of Executives. Also please see my current Bio, as published at <http://www.texasfreedomfighter.info/>www.TexasFreedomFighter.info).

My friend, Dr. Betty Martini, whose edited letter is copied below, speaks the truth... Aspartame is indeed a well known and quite deadly neurotoxin. Knowing that your website is for mothers and teachers, you indeed have not only a professional obligation and responsibility, but also a moral obligation and responsibility to seek out and to know the truth,
and to speak it out plainly and powerfully to those who rely in good faith on your information. I trust that you will seek out the truth, and "shout it from the rooftops."

You are probably familiar with Dr. Joseph Mercola, M.D., whose medical website <http://www.mercola.com/>www.Mercola.com is one of the most accessed websites on the internet, and who has written a plethora of truthful, accurate, and informative articles on the dangers of aspartame. These are published on his website: <http://www.Mercola.com>www.Mercola.com and may be easily found at the following direct link: <http://www.google.com/custom?cof=AH%3Acenter%3BAWFID%3A5cdb2968a482194d%3B&domains=www.mercola.com&sitesearch=www.mercola.com&q=Aspartame&sa2=Search+Mercola.com>http://www.google.com/custom?cof=AH%3Acenter%3BAWFID%3A5cdb2968a482194d%3B&domains=www.mercola.com&sitesearch=www.mercola.com&q=Aspartame&sa2=Search+Mercola.com.


One short and quite excellent example of Dr. Mercola's many well researched articles on aspartame may be accessed at: <http://www.mercola.com/article/aspartame/dangers.htm>http://www.mercola.com/article/aspartame/dangers.htm.


I heartily and sincerely encourage and ask you to please seek out and find the quite easily found truth on the many wel documented dangers of Aspartame (aka "NutraSweet" and "Equal"), for the health and safety of all the mothers and teachers who rely on you and your website for truthful and accurate information. Feel free to call me to verify any information or ask any questions. I can also put you in touch with the highly credentialed medical doctors who have published medical articles, and written books on the dangers of aspartame.
My contact information is below. Selah...

With Kindest Regards,

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Re: No proof.?

Postby earthbased » Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:28 am

jenthehero wrote:Of course the same old same old reducto ad surdium (sp?)

I can go find proof if you wish but personally I have had first hand experience with the effects of this poison. Massive headaches, that started my inital research into Aspartame.

When you say there is no scientific proof, that is meaningless, you must prove your statment or it is no better than mine. Lets see the 'proof of no proof'

What about Flouride? Studied in WW2 as a covert agent to create submissive captives?

I feel I am in the right place your arguments are solid but without proof it is verbal ping pong.

Not my first Rodeo.

I hope you prove me wrong!


And some people can't eat peanuts. And some can't be stung by a bee. And some can't swim. Etc...

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Re: Aspartame

Postby jenthehero » Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:27 pm

The law was broken. This should not have entered the food supply.

It is a known neurotoxin and can cause tumours and other health issues.

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Re: Aspartame

Postby Pyrrho » Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:26 am

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Re: Aspartame

Postby jenthehero » Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:45 am

Interestingly, it was FDA who originally tried to have the manufacturer indicted for fraud, the FDA who revoked the petition for approval and the FDA audit that exposed the manufacturer for manipulations having to do with studies on aspartame. But once Hayes over-ruled the Board of Inquiry the FDA changed sides and began to protect the manufacturer.

Someone from the FDA who I met at an expo years ago said they did everything they could to keep it off the market but after Hayes over-ruled the FDA Board of Inquiry they couldn't say "it's unsafe but we approved it". What I don't understand is an FDA who has full knowledge of the toxicity of aspartame and doing nothing to remove it. When FDA employees put out lies in their FDA Consumer they are doing it knowing they are publishing misinformation which comes under Title 18, Section 1001, the very same law they used to try and indict the manufacturer. While FDA could have recalled aspartame when the Community Nutrition Institute petitioned them because of seizures and blindness, they chose to protect the manufacturers instead of the people. It was taken all the way to the Supreme Court. So it was their choice to allow consumers to continue to go blind and have seizures

When the Ramazzini Study was done the New York Times contacted the FDA who actually admitted a recall would hurt the economics of the manufacturers of aspartame. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/12/busin ... yt&emc=rss In other words, they could care less if consumers suffer and die from aspartame as long as the manufacturers make a profit.

What excuse does the FDA have for lying about their report showing 92 documented symptoms triggered by aspartame? A Canadian reporter who contacted the FDA was told no such report existed. It was faxed on FDA stationery which is who sent it to me in the first place.

Some years ago a Monsanto employee bragged the FDA does what they are told. A book could be written on the tactics of the aspartame industry. An an example, On Feb 17, l984 the FDA denied Dr. Woodrow Monte and James Turner, Atty, the opportunity to hold a safety hearing on questions raised in their petition. (Federal Register l984). G. D. Searle (original manufacturer of aspartame) sent lobbyists to the State of Arizona including Andrew Herwitz, Arizona Governor Babbitt's former Chief of Staff, Charles Pine, prominent Arizona lobbyist, Roger Ties, a G..D. Searle lawyer, and David West, a G. D. Searle official.

The State of Arizona DHS completed studies showing aspartame in carbonated beverages can break down into free methanol in 99 degree F temperatures. The amount of methanol which broke down concerned the DHS so much a ban of aspartame was discussed (Gordon 1987, page 507 of US Senate l987). Between 8/23/84 and 9/21/84, Searle officials contributed to the campaign of Arizona House Majority Leader Burton Barr. the Committee to Reelect Barr then gave campaign contributions to a number of state representatives (Don Aldridge, Karen Mills, Jan Breuer) who all eventually voted on the side of Searle.

Dr. Woodrow Monte's petition for a hearing regarding banning aspartame in Arizona was rejected. He filed for reconsideration. He was granted a hearing scheduled for April 1985. What was Searle going to do? How would they stand up to the facts? In April, l985 in an unusual and secret maneuver, the Arizona legislature removed the text in a Toxic Waste Bill and used it to pass a bill which banned the regulation of FDA-approved food additives. This bill scuttled the hearing that Dr. Monte had been promised.

When the facts prove aspartame toxicity the aspartame manufacturers use their bottomless checkbooks and influence to blatantly prevent their comeuppance for the crime of mass poisoning the American public and the rest of the world. http://www.dorway.com/drbowen.txt With the endless money from pharmaceutical and chemical companies and new drugs created to treat the horrendous symptomatically and disease triggered by aspartame (951) industry can pay for anything. Since aspartame is addictive its a cash cow. Pharmaceuticals are outrageously priced and FDA even attempts to prevent US citizens from buying the same drugs from Canada at a lower price.

If aspartame manufacturers see a problem they know exactly what to do. For instance Dr. Richard Wurtman of MIT is quoted as saying Dr. Gerald Gaull, a D.C. Searle VP, came to his laboratory and threatened to veto his funding from the International Life Sciences Institute (ILSI after Wurman quit his job as a G. D. Searle consultant and became a NutraSweet opponent (Gordon l987, page 503 of US Senate l987). He wanted to perform studies on aspartame and seizures. IlSI is a research front group funded by manufacturers of aspartame and companies like Coke that use this poison. When an aspartame victim called from ILSI here in Atlanta some years ago she told me ILSL was anything but independent and said, "If you want payola you have to roll over". Dr. Wurtman's research funds were denied. Today MIT gets funding and Dr. Wurtman no longer speaks out against aspartame. A book he edited, "Dietary Phenylalanine and Brain Function" was removed from MIT although used copies may be around.

Last year In New Mexico both regulatory bodies, the Environmental Improvement Board and the Board of Pharmacy had seriously and earnestly considered the question of banning aspartame from food and drugs, but both had been essentially shut down because of loud corporate objections, clamors, and demands for New Mexico's silence about their potential product liability due to the neurodegenerative harm done by aspartame products. Then a veritable phalanx of corporate agents crawled over Santa Fe in the New Mexico Roundhouse like a seething swarm of maggots to defeat the Honorable State Senator Ortiz y Pino's bill to outlaw aspartame from the state.


On September 30, 1980, almost 16 years from the time aspartame was suppose to be created in l965, the FDA Board of Inquiry, revoked the petition for approval after even trying to have them indicted. Searle's defense team had simply hired the US Prosecutors. On October 1, l980 G. D. Searle & Company reported the filing of a suit to require the FDA to render a final decision, filed in US district Court in Washington DC. The Associated Press reported that the scientific panel of inquiry convened by the FDA to investigate the safety of aspartame had recommended the government keep the sweetener off the market. Searle complained they would lose $10,000 for everyday that it could not market aspartame. Don Rumsfeld, CEO at the time, finally got his way: From "Sweet Misery: A Poisoned World",
<http://www.soundandfury.tv/pages/rumsfeld2.html>http://www.soundandfury.tv/pages/rumsfeld2.html


A quarter of a century later Aspartame propaganda is tired and worn out. All shenanigans are a matter of public record. Everybody's sick of the denials after a quarter century of controversy, sickness, ruination and death. The world has had enough. The aspartame industry doesn't have to worry about economics. All they have to do is change the label to read rat poison. The world already knows it's a killer. What regulatory agency will finally have the courage to tell the truth. The Trocho Study in l998 shows not only does the formaldehyde converted from the free methyl alcohol embalm living tissue but damages DNA. When you damage DNA you can destroy humanity.

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Re: Aspartame

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Postby Eos of the Eons » Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:17 pm

Aspartame is not the only substance that breaks down into methanol and then into formaldehyde, and finally into water & carbon dioxide. It is also not the only way you get amino acids (aspartic acid, phenylalanine) in your body.

Aspartame breaks down into methanol and amino acids. Methanol is broken down to formaldehyde. Formaldehyde is then always turned to formic acid. The formic acid is then always turned into water and carbon dioxide. The key ingredient here is actually something that breaks down into methanol, and remember that the final product is actually water and carbon dioxide. Even breathing leaves you with water and carbon dioxide. Remember, the process your body goes through is methanol-formaldehyde-formic acid-water & carbon dioxide.

What else goes through this process in your body? Juice. Fruit. Vegetables. Wine. A serving of tomato juice the same sizes as a can of diet cola will produce about five times the methanol (which is what converts into formaldehyde) in your body as the aspartame in the diet cola. Fruits, fruit juices, vegetables, wine and beer will also produced methanol when digested. The chemical plant in your body can handle it, even in excess.

Studies have tested how aspartame is converted into methanol. One study showed that consumption of 2000 milligrams of aspartame - that's 10 cans of diet soda - had no effect on the amount of methanol present in the bloodstream. You can drink 10 cans of diet soda at once and not get poisoned. The normal levels of methanol in the bloodstream are not affected, and you just keep on processing it all into carbon dioxide and water (which is then eliminated from the body).

The link contains a lot more information, and I recommend everyone read it. Please forward this email on to help alieve the anti-aspartame hysteria. http://tafkac.org/ulz/nutrasweet.html

What is aspartame? It's made up of essential and non-essential amino acids (and methanol) that also occurs naturally in the body. Any time you eat any kind of protein (protein is made up of amino acids) you will get these amino acids So, whether or not you eat "synthetic" aspartame, your body always has these ingredients inside. It's normal. We all need protein to function. This is how aspartame was discovered. A scientist found that these amino acid combinations were sweet. So protein will get you amino acids (aspartic acid, phenylalanine), and fruits and vegetables will get you methanol. No matter what, unless you starve yourself of all essential nutrients, you will get these substances in your body whenever you eat something.
http://www.rosalindfranklin.edu/cms/bio ... rtame.html

Other myths about aspartame: http://www.snopes.com/humor/iftrue/antpoison.asp

Oh, and please don't be misled by all the people that can sell you stuff to save you from aspartame/formaldehyde poisoning. If you need to be saved from aspartame/formaldehyde poisoning (ingestion of something that the body converts into carbon dioxide and water), then you need to be saved from breathing too. Also, rembember that we humans have been eating vegetables and fruits since our inception, and have dealt with the methanol/formaldehyde conversions in our bodies since our inception. We are equipped to deal with it every day of our lives. Are you going to go with how your body actually works, or believe someone trying to sell you some gimmick to save you from something you ingest (methanol/formaldehyde/amino acids) every day?

This is why aspartame was put to the test and then permitted to be used as a sweetener, because good studies show it is safe, and there was every reason in the world it was safe in the first place. There is no reason to call it poison, unless you also want to call other regular everyday food poison too. None of it is poisonous as our bodies are equipped to break down, use, handle, and eliminate every bit of it safely, just like it has ever since humans and other animals have eaten fruits, vegetables, and proteins all of their lives.
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Re: Aspartame

Postby megaresp » Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:41 am

Eos of the Eons wrote:Aspartame is not the only substance that breaks down into methanol and then into formaldehyde...

I guess this is why people tell me I look so young for my age. I drink a LOT of Pepsi Max, and eat a fair amount of fruit. These are breaking down into formaldehyde, and preserving my youthful looks!

I also predict Jen will soon reply with a whole new rant aimed at discrediting everything you say.

What Jen completely fails to appreciate is that aspartame prevents every disease I've never had. It must do, because I drink diet soda every day and have never had any of the diseases I've never had. Having demonstrated my powers of reason, I now sit back and await my Super-Advanced Diploma in Homeopathic Thinking.

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Re: Aspartame

Postby ruprecht » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:21 am

Eos of the Eons wrote:Aspartame is not the only substance that breaks down into methanol and then into formaldehyde, and finally into water & carbon dioxide. It is also not the only way you get amino acids (aspartic acid, phenylalanine) in your body.

Aspartame breaks down into methanol and amino acids. Methanol is broken down to formaldehyde. Formaldehyde is then always turned to formic acid. The formic acid is then always turned into water and carbon dioxide. The key ingredient here is actually something that breaks down into methanol, and remember that the final product is actually water and carbon dioxide. Even breathing leaves you with water and carbon dioxide. Remember, the process your body goes through is methanol-formaldehyde-formic acid-water & carbon dioxide.

What else goes through this process in your body? Juice. Fruit. Vegetables. Wine. A serving of tomato juice the same sizes as a can of diet cola will produce about five times the methanol (which is what converts into formaldehyde) in your body as the aspartame in the diet cola. Fruits, fruit juices, vegetables, wine and beer will also produced methanol when digested. The chemical plant in your body can handle it, even in excess.

Studies have tested how aspartame is converted into methanol. One study showed that consumption of 2000 milligrams of aspartame - that's 10 cans of diet soda - had no effect on the amount of methanol present in the bloodstream. You can drink 10 cans of diet soda at once and not get poisoned. The normal levels of methanol in the bloodstream are not affected, and you just keep on processing it all into carbon dioxide and water (which is then eliminated from the body).

The link contains a lot more information, and I recommend everyone read it. Please forward this email on to help alieve the anti-aspartame hysteria. http://tafkac.org/ulz/nutrasweet.html

What is aspartame? It's made up of essential and non-essential amino acids (and methanol) that also occurs naturally in the body. Any time you eat any kind of protein (protein is made up of amino acids) you will get these amino acids So, whether or not you eat "synthetic" aspartame, your body always has these ingredients inside. It's normal. We all need protein to function. This is how aspartame was discovered. A scientist found that these amino acid combinations were sweet. So protein will get you amino acids (aspartic acid, phenylalanine), and fruits and vegetables will get you methanol. No matter what, unless you starve yourself of all essential nutrients, you will get these substances in your body whenever you eat something.
http://www.rosalindfranklin.edu/cms/bio ... rtame.html

Other myths about aspartame: http://www.snopes.com/humor/iftrue/antpoison.asp

Oh, and please don't be misled by all the people that can sell you stuff to save you from aspartame/formaldehyde poisoning. If you need to be saved from aspartame/formaldehyde poisoning (ingestion of something that the body converts into carbon dioxide and water), then you need to be saved from breathing too. Also, rembember that we humans have been eating vegetables and fruits since our inception, and have dealt with the methanol/formaldehyde conversions in our bodies since our inception. We are equipped to deal with it every day of our lives. Are you going to go with how your body actually works, or believe someone trying to sell you some gimmick to save you from something you ingest (methanol/formaldehyde/amino acids) every day?

This is why aspartame was put to the test and then permitted to be used as a sweetener, because good studies show it is safe, and there was every reason in the world it was safe in the first place. There is no reason to call it poison, unless you also want to call other regular everyday food poison too. None of it is poisonous as our bodies are equipped to break down, use, handle, and eliminate every bit of it safely, just like it has ever since humans and other animals have eaten fruits, vegetables, and proteins all of their lives.

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Re: Aspartame

Postby Lance Kennedy » Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:00 am

I'm just jumping back into this thread, having missed most of the ranting.

Quick question. Has anyone seen the article in Skeptic magazine Vo. 13 no. 3 pages 59 to 63 by Dr. Harriet Hall? She uses a widely quoted paper on the danger of aspartame as an example of science at its worst - full of errors in the study method.

I can quote from this paper if anyone is interested.

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Re: Aspartame

Postby jdc325 » Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:37 am

I did a blog post on Aspartame in response to something Dr Briffa had written. One of the things I found useful was this PDF: http://www.ec.europa.eu/food/fs/sc/scf/out155_en.pdf, which is pretty detailed. Apologies if this has been posted already.

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Re: Aspartame

Postby jenthehero » Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:42 pm

The Phillipines has banned it and now Hawaii.

The truth is blinding.

Senate Bill 2506 introduced by Senator Kalani English, and also
signed by Senator Suzanne Chun-Oakland, as well as House Bill 2580
sponsored by Representative Millie Carroll will move to ban aspartame
from the State of Hawaii.

Efforts continue to ban this deadly excitoneurotoxic carcinogenic
drug that is addicting the public and triggering so many symptoms and
diseases from MS and lupus and seizures to Parkinson's, diabetes and
obesity and even blindness and death. An aspartame documentary,
Sweet Misery: A Poisoned World, explains how Don Rumsfeld got this
marketed when the FDA said no.
http://www.soundandfury.tv/pages/rumsfeld2.html Masquerading as an
additive it's a deadly drug that interacts with other drugs and vaccines.

No one can forget the gallant efforts of Senator Gerald Ortiz y Pino
who sponsored the Senate bill to ban aspartame in New Mexico. One
picture that remains in my mind is addressing the Senate with
Senators sipping Diet Coke. Dr. Ken Stoller said "It's hard to
believe we are going to get anywhere with you drinking this but
consider the children." Aspartame is a teratogen triggering birth
defects and mental retardation, reducing IQ, and triggering all types
of behavioral and psychiatric problems.
http://www.mpwhi.com/report_on_aspartam ... ildren.htm

Stephen Fox of Santa Fe, Managing Editor of the Santa Fe Sun News and
prime New Mexico moving force behind the legislature efforts to ban
aspartame, commented on the great consumer progress implicit in these
two bills in Hawaii:

"This is wonderful news coming from Hawaii; the Legislators and their
bill drafters saw the merit in keeping almost all of the same
language from the 2006 and 2007 New Mexico bills, especially
regarding the states' rights and their obligation to protect citizens
health, which are not "preempted" by massive failures at the FDA.

"These New Mexico bills were overwhelmed and eviscerated in New
Mexico by some of the most vicious corporate lobbyists I have ever
encountered, representing Ajinomoto of Japan, the world's largest
aspartame and MSG manufacturer, as well as their duped American
corporate henchmen/colleagues who use massive amounts of Aspartame,
like Coca Cola, Pepsi, Altria/Kraft Corporate services, and
others. The same lobbyists will show up in Honolulu, make no mistake...

"These corporations have everything to lose if such bills advance and
ultimately lead to the inevitable product liability and personal
injury suits from those damaged by aspartame, which number in the
hundreds of millions, despite their cooperate serving propaganda and lies.

"My profoundest appreciation goes to the Hawaii activists who brought
up these imperative issues, and to the Legislators who see the merit
and need to protect the health of all Hawaiians, no matter what
duplicity is perpetuated by the top brass and corporate lackeys at the FDA."

47 Members of the UK Parliament have asked for a ban and efforts in
New Zealand continue with a circulating petition for ban.

Aspartame was never proven safe. Here is the Board of Inquiry Report
of the FDA that revoked the petition for
approval: http://www.mpwhi.com/fda_petition1.doc

In the US a petition has been filed with the FDA to ban aspartame
based on an imminent health hazard. Twelve toxicologists wrote the
FDA Commissioner in June asking for a ban having to do with the
Ramazzini Studies showing aspartame to be a multipotential
carcinogen. http://www.mpwhi.com/aspartame_letter_to_fda.pdf

We thank Hawaii for their efforts at safeguarding the people of that
state and standby to help in anyway possible. SB 2506 is listed
below for review.

Dr. Betty Martini, D.Hum, Founder
Mission Possible International (warning the world off aspartame)
9270 River Club Parkway
Duluth, Georgia 30097
770 242-2599
http://www.mpwhi.com, http://www.dorway.com
Aspartame Toxicity Center, http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame
Aspartame Disease: An Ignored Epidemic, http://www.sunsentpress.com, H. J.
Roberts, M.D.
Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills, http://www.russellblaylockmd.com,
Russell Blaylock, M.D.
Stephen Fox can be reached at stephen@santafefineart.com
Timetable of Aspartame: http://www.mpwhi.com/ecologist_september_2005.pdf
http://www.wnho.net



Report Title:
Artificial Sweetener; Aspartame; Ban; Food

Description:
Bans the use of the artificial sweetener aspartame in food products.


THE SENATE
S.B. NO.
2506
TWENTY-FOURTH LEGISLATURE, 2008

STATE OF HAWAII
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Re: Aspartame

Postby megaresp » Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:25 am

jenthehero wrote:The Phillipines has banned it

No, it hasn't. Next time, don't just read your nut-job publications...and look a little further.

jenthehero wrote:The truth is blinding.

The truth is never blinding, Jen. The truth is illuminating.

Someday, I hope you find it and give up this silly crusade of yours.

jenthehero wrote:Senate Bill 2506 introduced by Senator Kalani English, and also signed by Senator Suzanne Chun-Oakland, as well as House Bill 2580 sponsored by Representative Millie Carroll...

I guess you have to work with what you've got, and as you don't have science you'll make do with borrowed authority from politicians.

Scientific research shows asparteme is fine for human (and rodent) consumption.

The opinions of some nut-job politicians living on a volcano are irrelevant, except to the people they lord it over and demand money from.

jenthehero wrote:Efforts continue to ban this deadly excitoneurotoxic carcinogenic drug that is addicting the public and triggering so many symptoms and diseases from MS and lupus and seizures to Parkinson's, diabetes and obesity and even blindness and death.

None of which I suffer from, and I've been ingesting it for decades.

jenthehero wrote:Aspartame is a teratogen triggering birth defects and mental retardation, reducing IQ, and triggering all types of behavioral and psychiatric problems.

No, it isn't.

jenthehero wrote:"These corporations have everything to lose if such bills advance and ultimately lead to the inevitable product liability and personal injury suits from those damaged by aspartame, which number in the hundreds of millions, despite their cooperate serving propaganda and lies.

What would they lose, apart from a single ingredient? How would they be liable, given they used a product approved by the FDA?

More lies. Ho hum. Didn't expect anything else.

No wonder you guys can't get the stuff banned. Nobody can possibly take you seriously.

You're the creationists of the food industry.

jenthehero wrote:47 Members of the UK Parliament have asked for a ban...

Really. Which 47 members of the UK parliament?

jenthehero wrote:...and efforts in New Zealand continue with a circulating petition for ban.

So what? People circulate petitions all the time. You can't move in London for all those damned annoying petitioners trying to get you to support their stupid causes.

And while I'm in rant mode, why are all petitions run by greasy-haired beardo-types who need a good shower and a proper job?

jenthehero wrote:Aspartame was never proven safe.

You know what, water hasn't been proven safe either. And just think what's at stake for corporations if water is proven to be toxic?

Why, it would be terrible!

What's more, I've heard that water is the #1 cause of drowning in both children and adults.

AND IT'S NEVER BEEN PROVEN SAFE!

When will government act to protect us from the ravages of Big Water?

jenthehero wrote:Here is the Board of Inquiry Report of the FDA that revoked the petition for
approval: http://www.mpwhi.com/fda_petition1.doc

More petitions.

Are you a greasy-haired beardo-type too, Jen?

jenthehero wrote:In the US a petition has been filed with the FDA to ban aspartame based on an imminent health hazard. Twelve toxicologists wrote the FDA Commissioner in June asking for a ban having to do with the Ramazzini Studies showing aspartame to be a multipotential carcinogen.

Are you sure they were toxicologists, jen? I suspect they were nothing more than a group of petitioners out to cause trouble, and flout the conventions of acceptable facial hair.

jenthehero wrote:Blah blah blah, and on it goes...

Jen, may I recommend Scientology as a great way to find meaning in your life? As a bonus, they will actively prevent you from surfing the net, thus saving the rest of us from your diatribes.

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92 symptoms including death from the FDA

Postby jenthehero » Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:23 pm

All you have now are insults. Moderator, is that ok with you? What more 'proof' do you need? Take a deep breath and re think your stance.....WHAT IF YOU ARE WRONG?

What more do you need? Did you know in Hawaii they are banning it? I will post on that next.



****Here is that report on FDA stationery:
http://www.mpwhi.com/92_aspartame_symptoms.pdf


Thank you for helping to get the news out on banning aspartame
(NutraSweet/Equal/Spoonful, etc.) from the great state of Hawaii.

Yes it is linked to 92 symptoms including death from the FDA
themselves. Here is that report on FDA stationery:
http://www.mpwhi.com/92_aspartame_symptoms.pdf However, there are
many more listed including all kinds of diseases and tumors in the
1000 page medical text by H. J. Roberts, M.D., Aspartame Disease: An
Ignored Epidemic, http://www.sunsentpress.com

Dr. Kalani Brady, a physician at the John A. Burns School of
Medicine educates on diabetes. You have to wonder what is behind his
statement of it being safe when aspartame has triggered an epidemic
of diabetes. It not only can precipitate diabetes but simulates and
aggravates diabetic retinopathy and neuropathy, destroys the optic
nerve from the free methyl alcohol, causes diabetics to go into
convulsions and even interacts with insulin. It's the methanol, a
severe metabolic poison that is causing so many diabetics to lose
their limbs. Dr. Brady should get a copy of Dr. Roberts medical text
since he is a diabetic specialist and took care of aspartame victims
in the trenches of medical practice for decades. There is a large
chapter on diabetes and its mechanisms. Here is an excellent letter
written to Senator Ortiz y Pino in New Mexico on the
subject.
http://www.wnho.net/letter_to_senator_g ... artame.htm
Perhaps you can forward it to Dr. Brady along with this Journal of
the Diabetic Association of India: http://www.dorway.com/barua.html

While the FDA today is the Aspartame Industry's Washington Branch
Office, they originally fought approval to the point of asking for
the indictment of the manufacturer. US Prosecutors Sam Skinner and
William Conlon hired on with the defense team and the statute of
limitations expired. The FDA actually revoked the petition for
approval because they were so concerned about it triggering brain
tumors and that it couldn't be proven safe. Here is the Board of
Inquiry Report: http://www.mpwhi.com/fda_petition1.doc You will
notice in the commentary above it there is a clip from Sweet Misery:
A Poisoned World, an aspartame documentary, with Attorney James
Turner explaining how Don Rumsfeld got this deadly chemical poison on
the market when the FDA said "no".

They knew the FDA Commissioner would never over-rule the revoked
petition for approval, so a call was made to him at 3:00 A.M. from
the Reagan Transition Team asking him to resign. Here is a recent
letter from his wife who was with him when that call came
in: http://www.mpwhi.com/letter_about_jere_goyan.pdf Rumsfeld was
on Reagan's transition team and said he would call in his markers and
get it approved. The day after Reagan took office he appointed Dr.
Arthur Hull Hayes as FDA Commissioner to do the deadly deed. Knowing
it would take 30 days to get Hayes to FDA, President Reagan actually
wrote an Executive Order making the FDA powerless to do anything
about aspartame. Hayes over-ruled the Board of Inquiry and then went
to work for the PR Agency of the manufacturer for $1000.00 a day on a
ten year contract. Quite a reward.

There was so much outrage as people began being poisoned there were
three congressional hearings but the bill to put a moratorium on
aspartame and have the NIH do independent studies on the horrors they
were seeing in the population never got out of
committee. http://dorway.com/dorwblog/?page_id=65 This was due to
Senator Orrin Hatch we believe who was paid by Monsanto who had now
bought Searle. Today they have sold to four entities including
Ajinomoto and Merisant.

We have added most of the original government documents to web,
perhaps the reason Dr. Brady appears not to want people to check out
the Internet. If he is really sincere about wanting to educate
diabetics perhaps he should get on the Internet and also get copies
of medical texts on the subject. This includes Excitotoxins: The
Taste That Kills by neurosurgeon Russell Blaylock, M.D. http://www.sunsentpress.com

If he wants scientific peer reviewed studies here's the research Dr.
Ralph Walton did for 60 Minutes in l996 when Dr. John Olney made
world news on the aspartame brain tumor connection. Aspartame breaks
down to DKP, a brain tumor
agent. http://www.dorway.com/peerrev.html Here's 13 more studies in
the last 24 months showing aspartame
toxicity: http://www.mpwhi.com/13_aspartame_research_studies.htm
How bad can it get? Here is the Trocho Study showing the
formaldehyde converted from the free methyl alcohol embalms living
tissue and damages
DNA: http://www.mpwhi.com/formaldehyde_from_aspartame.pdf I spoke
to the researcher when I was in Barcelona and he told me aspartame
can kill 200 million. It already has, all you have to do is read the
medical text and see how many neurodegenerative diseases and tumors
it causes. Some women have lost as many as 8 babies on aspartame
because its an abortifacient, with no warning on the label.

If you want to know how the aspartame industry fixes studies to
attempt to show an addictive excitoneurotoxic carcinogenic drug shows
safety, read some of these which explain the
process: http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/ab ... zures.html
These are the ones on seizures. If you want more just let me
know. They are pro's at flawed studies. In fact, the FDA audit, the
Bressler Report is included in this article where I showed the FDA
admitted to destroying incriminating aspartame information that was
left out of that report: http://www.mpwhi.com/fda_gate.htm

As to economics, its about time there is concern about the mass
poisoning of the public with this deadly poison. You will notice in
this New York Times article after Dr. Soffritti did the
Ramazzini Study peer reviewed by 7 world experts showing aspartame
to be a multipotential carcinogen, the FDA was asked why they didn't
ban aspartame:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/12/busin ... wanted=all
Notice the only concern of the FDA was the economics of the
manufacturers. The FDA should be so concerned about safe food and
drugs and the health of a nation, and even the world.

When I lectured in New Zealand when Abby Cormack almost died from
Wrigley's aspartame
gum http://www.mpwhi.com/abby_cormack_story.htm I spoke with Food
Standards. They assured me there had been no studies in NZ and they
relied on the FDA. So the FDA is responsible for all these sick
people like Abby because they lied about aspartame safety. Because
of the publicity in NZ a lot of companies are taking a stand and
warning about
aspartame: http://www.mpwhi.com/beginning_to_feel_like_victory.htm
The Safe Food Campaign of New Zealand has a petition for ban.
alison@safefood.org.nz Here is the whole New Zealand story
published in "Investigate" - Dying For a Diet Coke, by journalist
extraordinaire , Chris Wheeler, Mission Possible New
Zealand: http://www.rense.com/general78/dying.htm

Understand until Don Rumsfeld (Rumsfeld's Plague) the FDA did speak
out about aspartame. Here is what their FDA toxicologist told Congress:

On August 1, l985 the FDA's own toxicologist, Dr. Adrian Gross, told
Congress at least one of Searle's studies "has established beyond ANY
REASONABLE DOUBT that aspartame is capable of inducing brain tumors
in experimental animals and that this predisposition of it is of
extremely high significance. ... In view of these indications that
the cancer causing potential of aspartame is a matter that had been
established WAY BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT, one can ask: What is the
reason for the apparent refusal by the FDA to invoke for this food
additive the so-called Delaney Amendment to the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act?"

The Delaney Amendment makes it illegal to allow any residues of
cancer causing chemicals in foods. In his concluding testimony Gross
asked, "Given the cancer causing potential of aspartame how would the
FDA justify its position that it views a certain amount of aspartame
as constituting an allowable daily intake or 'safe' level of it? Is
that position in effect not equivalent to setting a 'tolerance' for
this food additive and thus a violation of that law? And if the FDA
itself elects to violate the law, who is left to protect the health
of the public?" Congressional Record SID835:131 (August 1, l985)

So here is the admission by the FDA toxicologist who was on site
that the FDA violated the law, and that's why this deadly poison is
on the market today.

Dr. John Olney who founded the field of neuroscience called
excitotoxicity and tried to prevent approval, wrote a 49 page report
to the Board of Inquiry on how it would destroy the brains of our
children, and the unborn. Here is that report:
http://www.wnho.net/dr_olney1.doc Here's the Report For Schools,
articles by renowned aspartame experts to save the
children: http://www.mpwhi.com/report_on_aspartam ... ildren.htm
This was necessary because Dr. Olney's prophecy was fulfilled and
aspartame has destroyed a generation of children. It's an
abortifacient and teratogen (triggers birth defects) and endocrine
disrupting agent.

Everything is a matter of public record. Lobbyists, flacks, front
groups, the manufacturers and paid prostitutes weave stories of
deceit, but the simple truth is like Dr. James Bowen told the FDA 20
years ago, aspartame is mass poisoning of the
world: http://www.dorway.com/drbowen.txt I hope you will continue
to broadcast the facts and help the people of Hawaii know the truth
and set the ones who use it free of their afflictions. Here is the
paper by neurosurgeon Russell Blaylock, M.D., "What To Do If You Have
Used Aspartame", http://www.wnho.net/wtdaspartame.htm

If you wish to show the aspartame documentary, Sweet Misery: A
Poisoned World, on TV please contact http://www.soundandfury.tv
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Aspartame in Hawaii

Postby jenthehero » Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:27 pm

Aspartame in Hawaii...

The Hawaii legislative session is considering
House Bill 2680 and Senate Bill 2506 to ban the
artificial sweetener and neurotoxin aspartame.

This is wonderful news coming from Hawaii. The
legislators and their bill drafters saw the merit
in keeping almost all of the same language from
the 2006 and 2007 New Mexico bills, especially
regarding the state's rights and its obligation
to protect the citizens' health, which are not
"pre-empted by massive failures at the FDA."

These bills were overwhelmed and eviscerated in
New Mexico by some of the most vicious corporate
lobbyists I have ever encountered, representing
Ajinomoto of Japan, the world's largest
manufacturer of both aspartame and MSG, as well
as their duped American corporate henchmen and
partners-in-poisoning who use massive amounts of
aspartame, such as Coca-Cola, Pepsi, Altria, Kraft and others.

Make no mistake: the same corporations and even
more will show up in Honolulu. Probably including
Wrigley's Gum, all of whose products contain
aspartame, which is metabolized as methanol and formaldehyde.

These corporations have everything to lose if
such bills advance and lead to the inevitable
product-liability and personal-injury suits from
those damaged by aspartame, who number in the
hundreds of millions, despite their corporate-serving propaganda and lies.

My most profound appreciation goes to the
numerous fine Hawaii activists who brought up
these imperative issues, and to Sen. J. Kalani
English, chairman of the International Committee,
and Rep. Calvin Say, Speaker of the House, both
Democrats, who see the merit and need to protect
the health of all Hawaiians - no matter what
duplicity is perpetuated by the top brass and
corporate lackeys at the FDA. The Senate bill is
cosponsored by Suzanne Chun Oakland, chairperson
of the Senate Health and Human Services
Committee, and we sincerely commend these fine
legislators for this pre-emptive and protective legislation.

I hope Hawaii legislators don't capitulate to the
corporate-serving theories, advanced by corporate
lobbyists, that states do not have the right,
power or obligation to challenge any kind of
federal authority, such as an FDA pronouncement.

When aspartame's history of approval is examined,
it will be clear that the FDA commissioner, in
1981, was under a strong influence to approve
this chemical, no matter who objected in the
medical and scientific community, because the guy
from former President Ronald Reagan's "Transition
Team" who gave him the job, Donald Rumsfeld, had
been CEO of the aspartame manufacturer G.D.
Searle. Rummy made $25 million off this deal alone.
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Re: Aspartame

Postby jenthehero » Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:29 pm

Philippines Forbids Import
And Use Of Aspartame!
4-7-7

A law promulgated by the Philippine Congress has forbidden the importing and use, in the country, of aspartame, a sweetener that is between 180 to 200 times more potent than sugar, as well as banning distribution offour makes of saccharine, the most important brand names in the countryknown as: Equal, NutraSweet, Equal-Measure y Spoonful.[*] According tothe said Law aspartame gives rise to a total of 75% of the negativeeffects reflected in consumers and other users according to the north American administration of food and alimentation, among others, brain tumours, multiple sclerosis, epilepsy, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome,Parkinsons, Alzheimers and diabetes among others. The ban affects alluse of this product in any type of consumable and infringement will carry penalties that go from 9,000 euros to 90,000 euros.

Spanish Institute of External Commerce (ICEX). Paseo de la Castellana 14-16, 28046 MADRID. | 902 349 000

ENGLISH TRANSLATION IS ABOVE

http://www.icex.es/icex/cda/controller/ ... 41,00.html

http://www.mityc.es/es-ES/index.htm
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Re: Aspartame

Postby Mojo » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:23 am

jenthehero wrote:According tothe said Law aspartame gives rise to a total of 75% of the negativeeffects reflected in consumers and other users according to the north American administration of food and alimentation, among others, brain tumours, multiple sclerosis, epilepsy, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome,Parkinsons, Alzheimers and diabetes among others.


I can't find this on either of your links (but admittedly my Spanish isn't up to much). Can you be a little more specific, or maybe provide a reference for the law itself? It seems a little unlikely, as laws tend not to include the sort of editorialising and allegations quoted above.

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Re: Aspartame

Postby jenthehero » Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:18 am

I don't feel like it.
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Re: Aspartame

Postby jdc325 » Thu May 08, 2008 2:41 pm

Here is a link to the review of aspartame by Magnuson et al from 2007.

Some highlights:
Acute, subacute and chronic toxicity studies with aspartame, and its decomposition products, conducted in mice, rats, hamsters and dogs have consistently found no adverse effect of aspartame with doses up to at least 4000 mg/kg bw/day.

Critical review of all carcinogenicity studies conducted on aspartame found no credible evidence that aspartame is carcinogenic.

The data from the extensive investigations into the possibility of neurotoxic effects of aspartame, in general, do not support the hypothesis that aspartame in the human diet will affect nervous system function, learning or behavior.

[Epidemiological] studies provide no evidence to support an association between aspartame and cancer in any tissue. The weight of existing evidence is that aspartame is safe at current levels of consumption as a nonnutritive sweetener.


So... no evidence that Aspartame (a) is toxic at doses up to 4g per Kg of bodyweight daily, (b) is carcinogenic, (c) affects nervous system function or (d) is associated with cancer. The weight of existing evidence is that aspartame is safe at current levels of consumption as a nonnutritive sweetener.

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Re: Aspartame

Postby jenthehero » Thu May 08, 2008 9:26 pm

Found in markets under the brand names NutraSweet, Equal, E951, Canderel, and Benevia, aspartame (“APM”) has been sold for many years now as a safer sweetener than sugar or saccharin. And since aspartame is made of two amino acids that naturally occur in many foods, it is easy to convince consumers that this “natural” product is safe. Too many years have gone by since aspartame was approved by the Food and Drug Administration (“FDA”) for use as a sweetener, despite convincing evidence presented that this artificial product posed serious safety risks. New awareness of these risks, however, is bringing the curtain down on this charade.

The Risks Were Known at the Time

Listen in on the Senate Congressional Hearing on aspartame recorded in the Congressional Record of May 7, 1985, where Senator Howard Metzenbaum, an outspoken critic of aspartame, said, “G.D. Searle Company has not demonstrated to a reasonable certainty that the use of aspartame in soft drinks will not adversely affect human health as a result of the changes such use is likely to cause in the brain chemistry. The extensive deficiencies in the stability studies conducted by Searle render those studies inadequate and unreliable.”

In earlier submissions in 1983 to the FDA, the National Soft Drink Association (“NSDA”), representing American soda makers, emphatically objected to any government approval of the deadly chemical with an extensive, detailed written testimony, including these statements: ”Aspartame is inherently, markedly and uniquely unstable in aqueous media. In a liquid, such as a soft drink, APM will degrade as a function of temperature and pH. Higher temperatures and more acidic liquids increase the rate of degradation. . . . The inability to account for as much as thirty-nine (39) percent of APMs decomposition products is significant. With such a high unknown factor, judgments about the safety of APM in soft drinks cannot be made confidently.” (1983, 1985; see http://www.gene.ch/gentech/1998/May-Jul/msg00127.html

Aspartame’s Metabolic Offspring

What were these unnamed “decomposition products” referred to in the NSDA’s objection? They were:

* Methyl Alcohol: Class-A carcinogen, cumulative poison, narcotic. One ounce is fatal.
* Formaldehyde: Embalming fluid, kills all living things.
* Formic Acid: Fire-ant poison, toxic even in minute quantities.
* Diketopiperazine: Promotes brain tumors.

Amino Acids

There are twenty amino acids in our foods, which buffer each other and are metabolically selected competitively for protein construction. But some are toxic when isolated and unaccompanied by the others. Aspartame contains two synthetic ones that are toxic when isolated.

Aspartic Acid (40% of APM): Like MSG, aspartic acid is an excitotoxin. It can excite neurons to fire at an accelerated rate until they exhaust and die, and it destroys brain cells.

Phenylalanine (50% of APM): Deadly, phenylalanine lowers the seizure threshold and depletes serotonin, triggering psychiatric and behavioral problems. Extremely harmful to the unborn, phenylalanine is neurotoxic, causing abortions, birth defects and mental deficiency, as well as manifold neurological damage.

Professor of Pediatrics and Director of the Division of Medical Genetics at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia, Dr. Louis J. Elsas, said in Congressional testimony: “I have spent 25 years in biomedical sciences trying to prevent birth defects caused by excess phenylalanine. Therein lies my basic concern, that aspartame is in fact a well known neurotoxin and teratogen [causes birth defects] which in some as yet undefined dose will …. irreversibly in the developing child or fetal brain produce adverse effects” [November 8, 1987]

Earlier, in a letter submitted by Dr. Elsas to the Committee of Labor and Human Resources on the subject "Nutrasweet: Health and Safety Concerns," dated November 3, 1987 (http://www.dorway.com/dr-elsas.txt), he observed:

1. “In the developing fetus such a rise in maternal blood phenylalanine could be magnified four to six fold by the concentrative efforts of the placenta and fetal blood brain barrier. Thus a maternal phenylalanine of 150 µM could reach 900 µM in the developing fetal brain cell and this concentration kills such cells in tissue culture. The effect of such an increased fetal brain concentrations in vivo would probably be much more subtle and expressed as mental retardation, microcephaly or potential certain birth defects.

2. In the rapidly-growing post-natal brain (children of 0-12 months) irreversible brain damage could occur by the same mechanism.”

Show Time and No Refunds

Presented with adversarial testimony and scientific evidence of APM toxicity, the FDA at first denied approval. G. D. Searle Company was desperate but politically savvy, so the company hired Donald Rumsfeld as its CEO. It is said that he then called in his markers and Arthur Hayes was appointed as FDA Commissioner, who approved aspartame over the objections of FDA’s own Public Board of Inquiry. The Aspartame Follies Show was on the road!

But an avalanche of spontaneous consumer complaints soon embarrassed the FDA for approving the introduction of a toxin into thousands of foods that are wreaking havoc on the national health. What to do? FDA simply slammed shut the complaint window, and for these last twelve-plus years has denied such a list ever existed. Complain about aspartame and you might just as well report a mugging to the Mafia. Evidently your welfare is less important than the profits of chemical companies whose fees pay a great deal of the FDA’s income. The customer is King at FDA.

The Seven Dwarfs Reborn

Remember the “Seven Dwarfs,” those seven tobacco presidents swearing to Congress that nicotine is safe? It’s harmless like candy or coffee, they testified, and cannot be addictive. Not one of these murderers spent a day in prison regardless of the cemeteries filling up with their victims. Even the chairman of the American Medical Association Board/Trustees, Dr. Lonnie Bristow, challenged them to walk with him through hospital wards to see the dying lung-cancer patients and pulmonary cripples. No takers.

FDA aspartame stooges are their present-day clones, mouthing identical lies: Aspartame is harmless, not addictive, and methyl alcohol is as safe as fruit. Yet not only the FDA but other agencies such as the Centers for Disease Control prattle on about aspartame safety with full knowledge of the carnage they are permitting. “It’s the most tested product in history,” they claim. I’ll say. In a study conducted on seven infant monkeys fed aspartame, five had grand mal seizures and one died. You’re the monkey now!

Obesity, Diabetes, and More

The FDA’s “Seal of Approval” and the economic incentive of using cheaper aspartame instead of sugar, and advertising “sugar free” slogans, APM spread like bacteria into thousands of foods and drinks. Specifically targeted are healthcare professionals and the weight-control industry for their blitzkrieg of propaganda. In reality, aspartame has caused an epidemic of obesity. Sharon Fowler’s study at the University of Texas reported in 2005 used eight years of data and linked diet drinks to obesity. Again, in February 2008, a Purdue study found artificial sweeteners linked to weight gain. Even in the May l985 Senate Congressional Record, Dr. Richard Wurtman’s affidavit was quoted wherein he attested that aspartame makes users crave carbohydrates so that they actually gain weight.



Unfortunately, doctors treating diabetics advise it for their patients. Dentists recommend NutraSweet gum & desserts to cut cavities. Dietitians pour it over school lunches. Professional organizations such as the American Diabetes Association and the American Dietetic Association continually run aspartame ads in their magazines and strangle the truth.

The fact of the matter is that aspartame can precipitate diabetes, simulate and aggravate diabetic retinopathy and neuropathy, destroy the optic nerve, cause diabetics to go into convulsions, and even interact negatively with insulin. This is discussed at length in the 1000-page medical text, Aspartame Disease: An Ignored Epidemic, by H. J. Roberts, M.D.

The sweetener also binds to calcium as proven in a Norwegian study and is particularly deadly in gum. Because it is really an excito-neurotoxic drug, it works like nitroglycerin under the tongue, goes through saliva like Hitler through France and straight into the brain. Abby Cormack in New Zealand almost died on Wrigley’s aspartame gum and made World news last Summer. Today, there is a petition to ban aspartame in New Zealand being circulated by the Safe Food Campaign.

APM’s atrocities exceed tobacco’s. At least nicotine is voluntary, not mixed into children’s sweets and soda pop and thousands of processed foods, even vaccines and pediatric medicines. Aspartame has poisoned the World’s food supply! Corporate-neutral research shows the extreme danger presented to our children and us. But when you are as rich as Saudi Arabia you buy universities, doctors, medical journals, and any print or electronic billboard you can get. But it is not working anymore.

Aspartame’s 2006 European Obituary

In a market wire dated March 30, 2006, it was announced that the Holland Sweetener Company (HSC) was going to exit from the aspartame business and will terminate its aspartame activities by the end of 2006. “The global aspartame markets are facing structural oversupply,” the wire reported, “which has caused worldwide strong price erosion over the last 5 years. This has resulted in a persistently unprofitable business position for HSC. No significant improvements are expected in the near or foreseeable future.” (emphasis added) HSC was the largest aspartame producer in Europe. (http://sys-con.com/read/200579_p.htm)

Another company, Merisant, based in the United States but with sales in over 90 different countries, accounts for more than one-third of the estimated $1.2 billion global tabletop sweetener market. Over half of Merisant sales are outside of the United States. Yet even Merisant has lost $50 million a year, dropped a third of its North American sales in 3 years, and is upside down, owing $100 million more than its worth. The aspartame biz isn’t sweet any more.

Adding to aspartame’s woes in 2006, some 47 Members of Parliament signed on to ban Aspartame! “That this House expresses deep concern over the numerous independent toxicological studies and thousands of subjective reports attesting to the toxic effects of the artificial sweetener aspartame on human health; notes that aspartame, once patented as a biochemical warfare agent, is the synthetically produced methyl ester of a dipeptide which is readily broken down in the gut to release methanol; further notes that in naturally occurring foodstuff methanol is either not released into the body or present together with natural defense mechanisms that mitigate its toxic effects; recognizes that methanol is a well known poison and is further converted into formaldehyde, a class A carcinogen according to the World Health Organization’s International Agency for Research on Cancer; accepts that severe health concerns occur from the gradual accumulation of formaldehyde in the body which cannot be excreted and that further research has shown that long term low level exposure to formaldehyde induces leukemia and nasopharyngeal cancer in humans; acknowledges that of the 166 studies conducted on aspartame's safety deemed relevant to humans, 92 per cent of independently sponsored studies identified one or more problems with aspartame's safety whereas industry-sponsored studies found unanimously in favor of aspartame's safety; and urges the Government to abide by the precautionary principle and make use of Statutes 13 and 16 of the 1990 Food Safety Act to remove aspartame from the permitted list of additives on the UK market.”

More Bad News for the Poison

Continued independent scientific studies flow in with the bad news. On February 5, 2008, the New York Times reported in an article entitled “Symptoms: Metabolic Syndrome Is Tied to Diet Soda” that, “Researchers have found a correlation between drinking diet soda and metabolic syndrome – the collection of risk factors for cardiovascular disease and diabetes that include abdominal obesity, high cholesterol and blood glucose levels and elevated blood pressure.” We have known that for years. All one had to do is pick up Dr. H. J. Roberts medical text, and it is all explained. It also goes into drug interaction – the fact the formaldehyde converted from the free-methyl alcohol embalms living tissue and damages DNA as proven by the Trocho Study, and even how this poison causes sudden death! Dr. Maria Alemany, who did the Trocho Study, wrote on February 12, 2008, “I am very sorry the health of so many people depends on a product that should not be available for human consumption, that is harmful and which long time effects have not been established nor even investigated.”

Dr. Russell Blaylock, a board-certified neurosurgeon, wrote in Health & Nutrition Secrets To Save Your Life, “So in the case of diet drinks in aluminum cans, the very toxic brain aluminum fluoride compound co-exists with multiple toxins found in aspartame, thus creating the most powerful government-approved toxic soup imaginable. With the strong association between aluminum, excitotoxins, aluminum fluoride complexes and Alzheimer’s disease, it would be completely irresponsible to encourage people to consume this toxic mixture.” Dr. Blaylock is also the author of Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills. Both aspartame experts can be seen in the 2004 aspartame documentary Sweet Misery: A Poisoned World.

Around the World consumers demand that aspartame be removed from the planet. Last year the battle to ban aspartame was in New Mexico, mostly fighting those pro-aspartame lobbyists who just wouldn’t tell the truth. Just recently, there was another such battle with Hawaii’s bills to ban the poison. In fact, many Hawaiians keep saying, “We want this poison gone.” Nobody will stop until Rumsfeld’s Plague has been obliterated. Death and disability are simply not acceptable costs of doing business.

There are current efforts to ban aspartame in Hawaii. Two bills were deferred by House and Senate committees but because of the public outcry over the deferments two resolutions were drafted. One by Representative Josh Green, M.D., Chairman of the House Committee on Health, will require either warning labels or a total aspartame ban. It was passed by one House committee and has been submitted to another.

In Senate Resolution 191, it asks the Department of Health and the National Academy of Sciences to review all aspartame studies including independent ones done without funding by the aspartame industry. It requests that the FDA rescind approval of aspartame in U.S. markets, phasing it out in 6-to-12 months. This resolution is by the courageous Senator Suzanne Chun-Oakland. There is such a thunder of moaning and groaning Worldwide by aspartame victims that the manufacturers surely see the writing on the wall. Victims in other States are striving to get similar bills introduced to protect people from this poison.

The two Ramazzini Studies reported in 2005 and 2007 prove aspartame to be a multipotential carcinogen, even in small amounts; and that if a child survives exposure, then cancer may still result. These are two of the most impeccable studies ever done and confirm aspartame is a carcinogen as reported by FDA toxicologist Dr. Adrian Gross over 30 years ago! Aspartame as a poison even causes chemical hypersensitization. There is no use for it at all except as a killer. Jan Kinnard, an informant who was formerly hired as a professional temp to shred aspartame studies, supports these views. She reported on February 24, 2008, about these and other records on aspartame: “They were the lab results from the tested rats and other animals. The results were outrageous. This stuff killed everything it touched.”

To add more grist to the mill, the FDA has ignored over 100 independent, scientific peer-reviewed studies showing aspartame toxicity, a petition for ban over 6 years ago, a current amendment based on an imminent health hazard, as well as a letter from 12 toxicologists demanding that the Agency ban the product. Over 30 years ago, FDA toxicologist Dr. Jacqueline Verrett, who also testified to Congress that aspartame has never been proven safe, wrote the book Eating May Be Hazardous To Your Health: The Case Against Food Additives. Even then she summed up by saying, “What can be done to restore to consumers their right to safe food regardless of economic and political interests? . . . Probably the best solution, as some members of Congress have suggested, is to abolish the FDA and start over with a completely new agency free of some of the political pressures. . . . When science and the public interest win out, it is invariably only after the government has been pushed to the wall by consumer advocates and other public pressure.”

Worldwide consumer action, alert physicians, and conscientious officials – plus competition – are turning the tide and the aspartame marketplace is drying up.

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TOXIC PROPERTIES OF ASPARTAME 30.01.2006 January 30, 2006

Williams, Roger

That this House expresses deep concern over the numerous independent
toxicological studies and thousands of subjective reports attesting
to the toxic effects of the artificial sweetener aspartame on human
health; notes that aspartame, once patented as a biochemical warfare
agent, is the synthetically produced methyl ester of a dipeptide
which is readily broken down in the gut to release methanol; further
notes that in naturally occurring foodstuff methanol is either not
released into the body or present together with natural defence
mechanisms that mitigate its toxic effects; recognises that methanol
is a well known poison and is further converted into formaldehyde, a
class A carcinogen according to the World Health Organisation's
International Agency for Research on Cancer; accepts that severe
health concerns occur from the gradual accumulation of formaldehyde
in the body which cannot be excreted and that further research has
shown that long term low level exposure to formaldehyde induces
leukaemia and nasopharyngeal cancer in humans; acknowledges that of
the 166 studies conducted on aspartame's safety deemed relevant to
humans, 92 per cent. of independently sponsored studies identified
one or more problems with aspartame's safety whereas
industry-sponsored studies found unanimously in favour of aspartame's
safety; and urges the Government to abide by the precautionary
principle and make use of Statutes 13 and 16 of the 1990 Food Safety
Act to remove aspartame from the permitted list of additives on the UK market.

Signatures( 47)

Conservative Party
Conway, Derek
Goodwill, Robert
Pelling, Andrew
Spink, Bob

Democratic Unionist Party
Campbell, Gregory
McCrea, Dr William
Robinson, Iris
Simpson, David

Labour Party
Jones, Lynne
Austin, John
Banks, Gordon
Brown, Lyn
Corbyn, Jeremy
Crausby, David
Cryer, Ann
Dismore, Andrew
Drew, David
Etherington, Bill
Godsiff, Roger
Hoyle, Lindsay
Jenkins, Brian
Lazarowicz, Mark
McDonnell, John
Simpson, Alan
Taylor, David
Turner, Desmond
Vis, Rudi
Open: 18 Closed: 1

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Baker, Norman
Brake, Tom
Brooke, Annette
Cable, Vincent
George, Andrew
Hancock, Mike
Harvey, Nick
Horwood, Martin
Keetch, Paul
Mulholland, Greg
Opik, Lembit
Stunell, Andrew
Swinson, Jo
Williams, Mark
Williams, Roger
Williams, Stephen
Younger-Ross, Richard

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Postby jenthehero » Thu May 08, 2008 9:32 pm

Note she wrote a book years ago but its not available on Amazon on
additives - Eating May Be Hazardous To Your Health. Anybody finds
it let me know. She is deceased but was a heroine and testified
before Congress on aspartame. As we know aspartame was approved by
political chicanery and not science.

Here are some of her comments:

* Jacqueline Verrett, a senior FDA scientist on the review team,
said members were barred from stating opinions about the research
quality. "It was pretty obvious that somewhere along that line they
(bureau officials) were working up to a whitewash," she said.
* "I seriously thought of just walking off of that task force."
Verrett, now a private consultant, said that she and other members
wanted to "just come out and say that this whole experiment was a
disaster and should be disregarded."
* But on September 28, 1977, the panel reported that deviations
between Searle's raw data and its FDA submissions were "not of such
magnitude as to alter its conclusion."
* Verrett said the bureau's intent seemed to be "to tone down
what was really found." She noted the bureau felt pressure because
safety concerns also had been raised about cyclamate, another
alternative for the cancer-linked sugar substitute, saccharin.
* ...
* The Senior Scientist of the FDA Bureau of Foods Task Force,
Jacqueline Verrett had left the FDA. Speaking for the UPI
Investigation into Aspartame, she said, 'I seriously thought of just
walking off of that task force.' Verrett, now a private consultant,
said that she and other members wanted to 'just come out and say that
this whole experiment was a disaster and should be disregarded.'
* In her testimony before the U.S. Senate, Dr. Verrett stated the
following (Verrett 1987):


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been implicated as a cause of uterine polyps and changes in blood
cholesterol by FDA Toxicologist Dr. Jacqueline Verrett in her
testimony before the U.S. Senate.(13)

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Published on: 10/6/2007 Last Visited: 10/16/2007 DKP has also
been implicated as a cause of uterine polyps and changes in blood
cholesterol by FDA Toxicologist Dr Jacqueline Verrett in her
testimony before the US Senate.(13) ... Dr Jacqueline Verrett, the
Senior Scientist in an FDA Bureau of Foods review team created in
August 1977 to review the Bressler Report (a report that detailed
G.D. Searle's abuses during the pre-approval testing) said:
"It was pretty obvious that somewhere along the line, the bureau
officials were working up to a whitewash." In 1987, Verrett testified
before the US Senate stating that the experiments conducted by Searle
were a "disaster." ... (13) Testimony of Dr Jacqueline Verrett, FDA
Toxicologist before the US Senate
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Postby megaresp » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:30 pm

An exceptional scientific paper from the Institute of Spurious Research has found that Aspartame in cola reverses the effects of ageing, eliminates flab, improves sexual magnetism, prevents brain tumours, and increases intelligence.

At the press conference this morning, Dr O. B. Have said "We experimented on Fox News reporters, giving half diet cola and the rest ordinary cola. The half given diet cola immediately quit their jobs, and dedicated their lives to eliminating ignorance".

Aspartame was found to have other beneficial effects. It decreased paranoia (especially of large corporations involved in the food industry), alleviated the effects of asthma and other allergies, improved parallel-parking ability in women, lowered the rate of sexist-generalisations from men to less than 7 per hour, and was found to cure nerve damage.

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<http://truthbrigade.org/smf/index.php/topic,3692.msg5973.html#msg5973>Dr. Ralph G. Walton and Stephen Fox on the Dangers of Aspartame Dr. Walton will start in the first hour to talk about his research on aspartame, then Stephen Fox will come on to discuss what we can do to get it banned and removed from everyday products that don't feel they need to add it to the label.Dr. Ralph Walton did the research for 60 Minutes on scientific peer reviewed research and funding.<http://www.dorway.com/peerrev.html>www.dorway.com/peerrev.htmlHe also did his own study on aspartame which had to be stopped when one person suffered conjunctival bleeding and the administrator of the hospital who took part in the study got a retinal detachment and lost his vision in that eye. He can also be seen in the aspartame documentary, Sweet Misery: A Poisoned World, <http://www.soundandfury.com>www.soundandfury.com In 1980, Stephen Fox founded New Millennium Fine Art, a Santa Fe gallery specializing in Native American and Landscape, and is very active in New Mexico Legislative consumer protection politics, trying above to get the FDA to rescind its approval for the neurotoxic and carcinogenic artificial sweetener, Aspartame. <http://www.prlog.org/10070694>http://www.prlog.org/10070694In a strictly legislative context, his most important writing has been for the Hawaii Senate: <http://www.prlog.org/10056715-hawaii-senate>http://www.prlog.org/10056715-hawaii-senate He has been adamant and resourceful about exposing the charlatans of the sometimes-organic food movement. Take the time to read this press release concerning California Attorney General Jerry Brown's suits against Whole Foods, Avalon, and others, for either knowingly or negligently adding a deadly carcinogen to their body care products and soap, as in Whole Foods 365 Label products: <http://www.prlog.org/10079593>http://www.prlog.org/10079593Most of his articles on this subject can be found here:<http://www.opednews.com/author/author4578.html>http://www.opednews.com/author/author4578.html
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We haven't added to this list but yes they are constantly putting aspartame in children's pediatric products. It would be wise to get a PDR, Physician's Desk Reference, and check out any drug your grandchildren might use. On a prescription you wouldn't even know unless there was an insert with full information. A pharmacist told me they don't have to list all the ingredients. Send your grandchildren's physician this Report For Schools: http://www.mpwhi.com/report_on_aspartam ... ildren.htm In another email I'll send you a list of resources. All my best,Bettywww.mpwhi.com, www.dorway.com and www.wnho.netAspartame Toxicity Center, www.holisticmed.com/aspartameAt 07:41 AM 4/8/2009, mssr7@consolidated.net wrote:>Has an update been made to the information found through this link >on your website?: ><http://www.wnho.net/use_of_aspartame.htm>http://www.wnho.net/use_of_aspartame.htm>>I was reading through the list, and found several products my >daughters give to my seven grandchildren. I was wondering if more >have been sought out, and if yes, when will they be added to the list.>>Thank you so much for your work, which exposes these scoundrels >doing this to our children
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Dear Sir: Coincidental that you would share this article with us. About 15 years ago I was a dedicated tri-athlete and during training I believed I had suffered an injury in my left foot. I suffered with worsening pain in it, to the extent that I purchased foam wedges for my uniform shoes, so as to not limp at work. By good fortune, I mentioned my condition to my older brother who informed me I had gout caused by NutraSweet. He knew this because both he and our older brother suffered from the same condition. I began drinking a minimum of 8 glasses of water a day and within 2 weeks, the condition disappeared completely. I have been preaching the evils of aspartame ever since. I have a 15 year old daughter who drinks too much Diet Coke. I have been encouraging her to stop for a good while now and I will share this article with her. Should you wish to share this testimonial with others, feel free to do so! Regards,Captain Peter A. MachtelUS Air Flight 1197 _______________________________________________________________________________ Remember when you travel to always give the pilots and flight attendants the Pilot Alert: http://www.mpwhi.com/pilot_aspartame_alert.htm They really appreciate being warned. On one flight one pilot was so happy about receiving this life saving information that he moved Paul Scavone to First Class.Mission Possible Aviation was started when a pilot crashed his plane and lived to tell about it. Remember your life is in the hands of the pilot. Give them a helping hand. Remember also that June is "Save A Pilot Month".
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Postby jenthehero » Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:48 am

I'm so glad you joined this group. All the experts on aspartame have at one time or another made the comment that mental hospitals are full of people who are only aspartame victims. Here's why that's the case. Fifty percent of aspartame is phenylalanine, as an isolate its a neurotoxin. It floods the brain, lowers the seizure threshold and depletes serotonin. Lowered serotonin triggers manic depression or bipolar, anxiety, panic attacks, schizophrenia, hallucinations, mood swings, insomnia, etc. It gets worse. Aspartame interacts with ALL antidepressants! No doubt why children in school are medicated instead of educated. It triggers all types of behavioral and psychiatric problems. Dr. H. J. Roberts says in one of his books, "you have to consider aspartame with children killing children". There is a chapter on all this including drug interaction in the medical text, Aspartame Disease: An Ignored Epidemic, www.sunsentpress.com You really need to get this. It's 1000 pages of horrors triggered by this deadly, deadly addictive excitoneurotoxic carcinogenic drug. It seems that every time I research some horrible case, I find aspartame is the culprit. Do you remember when the woman drowned her 5 children that was all over the news? She was consuming Diet Coke and taking Haldol. I spoke to Dr. Ralph Walton, Psychiatrist about it, and he said, "it was a double whammy". Here are some of Dr. Ralph Walton's reports which are what you need: Aspartame and Psychiatric Disorders: http://www.mpwhi.com/aspartame_and_psyc ... orders.htm http://www.opednews.com/articles/Pennsy ... 2-647.html This particular paper by Dr. Walton goes into the study he did. Bless you my dear for wanting to get out this information. It may send a lot of mental patients home off aspartame who were only victims. The cases are unbelievable. Incidentally, because aspartame is not an additive and additives are suppose to be by law inert, but an addictive excitoneurotoxic carcinogenic drug, and damages the mitochondria it interacts with virtually all drugs and vaccines. Below are some resources, and you'll see a safe sweetener that can be used. The FDA list of 92 symptoms triggered by aspartame lists change in mood as #3 because this is so frequent. Let me know if I can help you further. All my best,Bettywww.mpwhi.com, www.dorway.com and www.wnho.netAspartame Toxicity Center, www.holisticmed.com/aspartame Aspartame medical text, Aspartame Disease: An Ignored Epidemic, <http://www.sunsentpress.com/>www.sunsentpress.com by H. J. Roberts, M.D., over 100 pages He also has other books on aspartame and is about to publish a new one. Detox formula: "What To Do If You Have Used Aspartame" by neurosurgeon Russell Blaylock, M.D., <http://www.wnho.net/wtdaspartame.htm>www.wnho.net/wtdaspartame.htm Dr. Blaylock is author of Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills, <http://www.russellblaylockmd.com/>www.russellblaylockmd.com He has an excellent CD titled: "The Truth About Aspartame", <http://www.atavistik.com/>www.atavistik.com Aspartame documentary: Sweet Misery: A Poisoned World, <http://www.soundandfury.tv/>www.soundandfury.tv Aspartame Information List, you can subscribe on <http://www.mpwhi.com/>www.mpwhi.com scroll down to banners. How to get aspartame out of your state: <http://www.thenhf.com/press_releases/pr_24_feb_2009.html>http://www.thenhf.com/press_releases/pr_24_feb_2009.html Safe Sweetener: Just Like Sugar, <http://www.justlikesugarinc.om/>www.justlikesugarinc.om Can be found in places like Whole Foods. Made of chicory and orange peel, Calcium and Vitamin C. Chicory has been used for 70 years to improve the health of diabetics. Dr. Russell Blaylock wrote in his newsletter, The Blaylock Wellness Report, <http://www.russellblaylockmd.com/>www.russellblaylockmd.com "Finally a safe sweetener". Aspartame information for distribution: The Artificially Sweetened Times, 24 page booklets on aspartame, <http://www.idaho-observer.com/>www.idaho-observer.com The Lethal Science of Splenda: <http://www.wnho.net/splenda_chlorocarbon.htm>http://www.wnho.net/splenda_chlorocarbon.htm Studies have shown that sucralose can: * Cause the thymus to shrink by as much as 40% (the thymus is your immune powerhouse - it produces T cells)* Cause enlargement of the liver and kidneys* Reduce growth rate as much as 20%* Cause enlargement of the large bowel area* Reduce the amount of good bacteria in the intestines by 50%* Increase the pH level in the intestines (a risk factor for colon cancer)* Contribute to weight gain* Cause aborted pregnancy low fetal body weight* Reduce red blood cell count Particular warning to diabetics: Researchers found that diabetic patients using sucralose showed a statistically significant increase in glycosylated hemoglobin, a marker that is used to assess glycemic control in diabetic patients. According to the FDA, "increases in glycosolation in hemoglobin imply lessening of control of diabetes." Web sites: <http://www.mpwhi.com/>www.mpwhi.com, www.dorway.com and <http://www.wnho.net/>www.wnho.netAspartame Toxicity Center, <http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame>www.holisticmed.com/aspartame
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Postby JJM » Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:42 am

megaresp wrote:{snip} [aspartame] was found to cure nerve damage.
I challenge that assertion.

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Postby landrew » Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:42 pm

JJM wrote:
megaresp wrote:{snip} [aspartame] was found to cure nerve damage.
I challenge that assertion.

And... ???
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jenthehero wrote:"Researchers have found a correlation between drinking diet soda and metabolic syndrome – the collection of risk factors for cardiovascular disease and diabetes that include abdominal obesity, high cholesterol and blood glucose levels and elevated blood pressure".


Correlation, not causation. The researchers have therefore determined that fat people drink diet soda.

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Postby decreptitate777 » Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:50 am

jenthehero wrote:One of Canada's best. He is well aware of the larger picture. He must stop at telling the entire truth because of his foundation status. (They must stay out of politics) Just like the churches they can only go so far.

The truth is the cures and solutions are there, the holding onto power and control is in direct conflict with our humanistic right to have clean energy, cures and solutions.

I have been told there are many cures for cancer. Of course the best is prevention and the removal of poison in our food supply.

Here are two examples of poison in our food supply that are in alingment with an evil agenda (My Opinion)

Flouride and Aspartame. Look them up. Oh here....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8kgJfw699E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xR47jUqX9g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELgW4KBY-o4



What truly makes these things poison is imbibing them in excess...there are doctors telling you sugar is bad...the sweeteners are bad...just quit eating all of them entirely...eat soy "meat" and flax seed three times a day...

even if you drive a Prius, live in Oregon, and eat organic food...there is a basal level of DNA damage within all of the cells of your body every day...leaving you at risk for cancer...

I thinking we are getting to the clean energy part...it is a massive and costly renovation in response to fairly new research...cures? that is mumbo-jumbo...cancer, stroke, and insulinemia are extremely complex diseases and can never be attributed to monocausalities...even the rich and powerful are still dying before the age of 100--don't you think they would save their own ass if they could?

It is a human right to get to the solutions...and only science can uncover this goal...in fact, if you want to get angry...blame the fundamentally religious institutions that have kept science from achieving its full potential for the past hundreds of years.

I a basic scientist...if we run into findings that can be implicated into human health...we shout it from the rooftops and are proud...we hardly get paid anything to do it also...so you gotta love being a scientist in order to do it...

We know the profit-driven agenda of the pharma industries because they rather try a billion keys in the lock instead of breaking the lock open and seeing how it works...it is a cheaper, lazier, and faster approach...but it doesn't mean they are intentionally harboring some secret cure that we don't all know about...not even they are that smart in understanding exactly how the human body works...

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Postby Gord » Fri May 01, 2009 8:27 am

The first few times I had anything containing aspartame, I became sick to my stomach. I still refuse to eat it. I personally would like to see it used less because I pick things that don't contain it, and it's being used in quite a lot of things these days.

While I still believe it makes me sick, I haven't tested it with any degree of scientific diligence. It's just a belief. I may be willing to delude myself when it only affects me, but I won't truly accept it is unhealthy until someone shows me good evidence.

In the meantime, my brother-in-law and my nephew are both diabetic. They drink soda sweetened with aspartame. I wouldn't want to make it any harder for anyone who wants it in their sweetened products to find it.
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Postby decreptitate777 » Mon May 04, 2009 9:12 pm

Gord wrote:The first few times I had anything containing aspartame, I became sick to my stomach. I still refuse to eat it. I personally would like to see it used less because I pick things that don't contain it, and it's being used in quite a lot of things these days.

While I still believe it makes me sick, I haven't tested it with any degree of scientific diligence. It's just a belief. I may be willing to delude myself when it only affects me, but I won't truly accept it is unhealthy until someone shows me good evidence.

In the meantime, my brother-in-law and my nephew are both diabetic. They drink soda sweetened with aspartame. I wouldn't want to make it any harder for anyone who wants it in their sweetened products to find it.



Yeah...I don't fancy it much myself...it makes me sick too...I think by association with the nasty food and sodas that is in...like a psychosomatic type response...it is concentrated compared to plain old sucrose sugar...I don't think the sick feeling is a true physiological effect...

that's just it...it has purposes like the rest of the demonized molecules that have come about in modern day times...annihilation of these substances for "religious" reasons could limit the quality of life for other people...

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Postby landrew » Sat May 16, 2009 3:01 am

The greatest secret about artificial sweeteners is that we don't need them. Everything tastes better without any sweeteners at all once you get used to it after a month or two.
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Postby Gord » Sat May 16, 2009 3:29 am

landrew wrote:The greatest secret about artificial sweeteners is that we don't need them.


Nuh-uh! Jesus made them, and Jesus doesn't make crap! :wink:
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Re: Aspartame

Postby Flash » Sun May 17, 2009 12:36 am

I eat this stuff with almost everything, oatmeal, coffee, tea, strawberries. I feel good so what's the fuss? :mrgreen:
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Re: Aspartame

Postby landrew » Sun May 17, 2009 1:02 am

Flash wrote:I eat this stuff with almost everything, oatmeal, coffee, tea, strawberries. I feel good so what's the fuss? :mrgreen:

If you want to keep feeling good, don't google "aspartame." There's a lot of negative stuff about it and it can't all be wrong.
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Re: Aspartame

Postby Flash » Sun May 17, 2009 1:35 am

It's true that it can't all be wrong but it's also not all right. Separating informed stuff from the alarmist anecdotes is quite a chore on the web. :wink:
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