Cannabis as a ''cure all'' the gov't is suppressing

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Cannabis as a ''cure all'' the gov't is suppressing

Post by Willywizz » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:35 pm

Lately I've been running into news articles about how a guy took cannabis oil and his cancer/autism/epilepsy and whatnot was cured. There seems to be a growing number of people swearing that cannabis cures every single disease and that ''Big Pharma'' is conspiring to suppress it so they can get more money.

About any kind of "suppressing the cure" claim:

This theory never has made any sense to me. Violates common sense.

Are you claiming that pharma companies in many different countries are conspiring together ? Companies in Russia, India, China, USA? No, they generally compete, they don't cooperate.

Same with politicians in those countries. Are you claiming Putin, Obama, the Chinese govt, etc all are in line, helping to suppress cures?

And top executives in pharma companies, and their families, are at risk of cancer, HIV, diabetes, etc just like all the rest of us. Wouldn't they want a cure just as much as the rest of us?

And if a cure exists, you know it will get out eventually, maybe quickly. It's very hard to keep secrets, especially among scientists. The first company to patent it and produce it would make a TON of money, and gain prestige.

Same if Russia or China or Cuba was first to have a cure for, say, cancer. Bragging rights over the rest of the world.

No, the "suppressing the cure" theories are nonsense.

It reminds me of those parents who give bleach enemas to their kids and then swear that it reduced their child's autism/ADHD symptoms and they encourage others to do it too. I also notice a lot of cannabis cure-all proponents are prone to the conspiracy theory that 'Big Pharma' (as they put it) are trying to cover it up.

There is also the topic of the placebo effect, let's say we have people prone to conspiracy theories and stop using mainstream medicine and buy cannabis oil because some guy on YouTube said it works, they have a distrust for mainstream medicine but think alternative medicine works much better, so he'll see improvement in his symptoms despite the cannabis oil just being..well, snake oil.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:39 pm

Hippies in the '60s on up to stoners of today, same maladies. No "grass bubble" in the stats.
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Post by TJrandom » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:17 pm

And if it isn`t MJ, it is magnetic stones, crystals, coffee enemas, honeybee propolis, and any number of herbal teas... With all of these cures out there nobody ever dies of cancer these days… :roll:

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:30 pm

TJrandom wrote:And if it isn`t MJ, it is magnetic stones, crystals, coffee enemas, honeybee propolis, and any number of herbal teas... With all of these cures out there nobody ever dies of cancer these days… :roll:
Doesn't seem to work on mesothelioma, however.
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Post by Willywizz » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:03 am

TJrandom wrote:And if it isn`t MJ, it is magnetic stones, crystals, coffee enemas, honeybee propolis, and any number of herbal teas... With all of these cures out there nobody ever dies of cancer these days… :roll:
That's a good way to put it.
For whatever reason the ''cannabis cures literally everything'' trope is really common on Reddit and whenever I'm tell them to please provide evidence from a reputable government based source they either link me to tabloid articles or some Dr Mercola stuff and when I tell them that isn't proper evidence (Dr Mercola believes vaccines cause autism, not the most trustworthy source) they tell me to ''research'' like Flat Earthers always tell me to do whenever I question their claims :mrgreen:

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Post by Tom Palven » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:48 am

Canada is one step closer to legalizing pot:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cana ... JG06B?il=0
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Post by OlegTheBatty » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:23 pm

Tom Palven wrote:Canada is one step closer to legalizing pot:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cana ... JG06B?il=0
Announced today that the actual date of legalization will be Oct 17.
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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:03 pm

Willywizz wrote: No, the "suppressing the cure" theories are nonsense.
Its stated USA Policy. Just look.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:10 pm

Pot tourism, hoooo!
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Post by OlegTheBatty » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:18 pm

Yer all welcome (except the Trumplings). Just don't get the wrong idea when someone tells you "that street is full of pot holes."
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:36 pm

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Post by Tom Palven » Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:01 am

OlegTheBatty wrote:
Tom Palven wrote:Canada is one step closer to legalizing pot:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cana ... JG06B?il=0
Announced today that the actual date of legalization will be Oct 17.
Yes. Found a link:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ca ... smsnnews11

And meanwhile, in the land of the free and the home of the brave:
reason.com/blog/2018/06/20/congress-wants-to-give-jeff-sessions-unp?utm_medium=email
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Post by Lance Kennedy » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:46 pm

https://www.stuff.co.nz/science/1052575 ... tudy-finds

One of the major supposed benefits of cannabis is for chronic pain. Detailed study proves it useless for this. Some cannabis products have minor value in specialised areas, like some epilepsy, but overall is the most over claimed and generally useless remedy ever.