Something to get Real about: Baby Charles

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Re: Something to get Real about: Baby Charles

Postby OutOfBreath » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:29 am

TJrandom wrote:OK, back on topic... should organs be harvested - assuming they are viable, and the law permits such for a child?

I think organ donations should be mandatory, or at most an opt-out instead of an opt-in.

As for the charlie case, bobbo, if you skimmed the legal note from the judge it is made clear that even the american doctor offering the experimental treatment has agreed that it will have virtually no chance to work, but he is willing to do it if the parents want to (and pay for it, of course). I found the judges ruling to be very well considered and rational.

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Re: Something to get Real about: Baby Charles

Postby TJrandom » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:46 am

IMO - at least very strongly recommended, and `sold` to the parents/guardian/next of kin, as a way of ensuring the soon to be lost life had maximum value.

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Re: Something to get Real about: Baby Charles

Postby ElectricMonk » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:54 am

Organ donation opt-out is the obvious way to go: if you establish a social norm, people will follow it, mostly.
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Re: Something to get Real about: Baby Charles

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:10 am

I've opted out of organ donation. I'm voting with Darwin and against for profit medicine.

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Re: Something to get Real about: Baby Charles

Postby TJrandom » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:21 am

I was opted-in (carried on a card kept with my drivers license), but sadly, have been opted out.

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Re: Something to get Real about: Baby Charles

Postby Austin Harper » Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:31 pm

I'm signed up to be an organ donor but I don't know if anybody will want them by the time I'm done with them.
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Re: Something to get Real about: Baby Charles

Postby Nikki Nyx » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:14 pm

I'm signed up to be an organ donor. The anthropology body farm at UMass can have the rest.
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Re: Something to get Real about: Baby Charles

Postby Lance Kennedy » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:51 pm

Ditto, opted in via drivers license. But I doubt anyone will now want my aged organs.


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