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Re: English multitopic

Postby Gord » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:26 am

...where did my comma go?! :shockd:
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Re: English multitopic

Postby scrmbldggs » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:34 am

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Re: English multitopic

Postby Gord » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:35 am

...I blame Micro$oft. They're all jerkmonkeys there anyway. I imagine.
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Re: English multitopic

Postby scrmbldggs » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:37 am

Maybe the imperfect 10 now comes with a personalized AutoIncorrect? :-P
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Re: English multitopic

Postby Gord » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:39 am

Ha! Like it needs one!
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Re: English multitopic

Postby JO 753 » Sat Aug 27, 2016 8:40 am

A jugful uv milk.
A tankful uv sand.
A beachful uv oil.
A topicful uv nonsens.

Trying to credit English with consistent lojik requirez consumption uv a pipeful uv meth.
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Re: English multitopic

Postby Gord » Sun Aug 28, 2016 2:26 am

English does have consistent logic, but it has more than one system. What's logical in one case for one reason is logical in another case for another reason. That's how words formed in the first place.
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Re: English multitopic

Postby Angel » Sun Aug 28, 2016 5:11 pm

scrmbldggs wrote:"meaningfulhandful" - that's a mouthful!


More than a mouthful is a waste.
To be or not to be?
To believe or
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To be live or
Not to be live?
To exist or
Not to exist?
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Re: English multitopic

Postby TJrandom » Sun Aug 28, 2016 5:37 pm

Angel wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:"meaningfulhandful" - that's a mouthful!


More than a mouthful is a waste.


We mostly consume visually or audibly – less by mastication.

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Re: English multitopic

Postby Poodle » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:25 pm

I thought that made you go blind?

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Postby TJrandom » Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:09 pm

Poodle wrote:I thought that made you go blind?


Erm... that would be masterbation.... and just to assure you, my eyesight is just finr.... :)

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Re: English multitopic

Postby Monster » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:46 pm

Does anyone know of a single word for the verb to start a fire? The best I can think of is "light", as in:

Light a fire.
Light the match.

We have other phrases for starting fires but they aren't a single word. Such as:

Set the wood on fire.
Start the fire in the pit.

I don't like "light" as a verb for starting a fire though. It doesn't sound very good and it really only works in a small number of phrases.
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Re: English multitopic

Postby ElectricMonk » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:50 pm

Ignite?
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3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things.
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Re: English multitopic

Postby Poodle » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:55 pm

Or, if you don't like ignite, kindle.

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Re: English multitopic

Postby Monster » Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:12 pm

ElectricMonk wrote:Ignite?

That's a pretty good one.

Ignite the house.
Ignite the wood.
I ignited the paper.

I'm not sure if it can be used in all cases and still sound correctly, though.
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Re: English multitopic

Postby Monster » Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:18 pm

One of the unfortunate parts of English that bothers me is the labels given to the parts of the day. Morning, afternoon, evening, and night. I'm not sure if there's a consensus for the hours for each of those parts of the day. I think this is correct:

Morning: 12am to 12pm
Afternoon: 12pm to 6pm
Evening: 6pm to 9pm
Night: 9pm to 12am

I just looked these up in the google device and there are different opinions on the which labels are appropriate for which parts of the day.
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Re: English multitopic

Postby ahhell » Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:48 pm

Keep in mind, those labels originally depended on where the sun was in the sky and not a standardized clock time, its no surprise that there would be a difference of opinion in that regard. The only one I'd give a clear definition to would be afternoon, from 12pm until sunset. Which will change throughout the year.

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Re: English multitopic

Postby Gord » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:39 am

Monster wrote:Does anyone know of a single word for the verb to start a fire?

enTRUMPinate!
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Re: English multitopic

Postby scrmbldggs » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:10 am

Gord wrote:
Monster wrote:Does anyone know of a single word for the verb to start a fire?

enTRUMPinate!

:lol:


How about zippoing?
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Re: English multitopic

Postby Monster » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:03 pm

What would be the word for a place that sells cooked food, such as a restaurant, but it has no internal dining area? I typically call them "hole in the wall places". They're like food trucks, but they're part of a building. They're common in Ukrainian cities. There are some in NYC, but not too many.
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Re: English multitopic

Postby Poodle » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:20 pm

Nowadays in the UK, that's a takeaway.

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Postby TJrandom » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:17 pm

A food stall?

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Re: English multitopic

Postby Poodle » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:43 pm

I can remember (in the second half of the 50s) a certain establishment known locally as 'Ezzar's. It was a fish and chip shop (the only such place in the UK at the time which would fit Monster's description). Even then, the quality of the food provided at 'Ezzar's Emporium was thought questionable. But the most vivid memory is of 'Ezzar's cigarette (always a Woodbine), perpetually held in his lips and perpetually with an inch of ash hanging off the end. As kids we used to pile in, ostensibly to buy a single portion of chips but, in reality, to watch that ash - it had never. ever, fallen off into the hot lard, and we knew for sure that today was the day. It never fell.

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Postby Monster » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:23 pm

The word "overrated". It annoys me to no end that people think that "overrated" means "it's awful" rather than "overrated".
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Re: English multitopic

Postby Nobrot » Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:47 pm

Shite.

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Re: English multitopic

Postby Monster » Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:42 pm

This question came up in ESL class last night.

In this sentence, which is the subject?

"There was an old man."

I thought it was "there". Another tutor thought it was "old man". So which is it? I still think it's "there".

In the middle of writing this post, I looked it up, and I found my answer. It's "there".
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Re: English multitopic

Postby fromthehills » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:01 pm

Old man.

If you say " there was an old man sitting on the porch...." it would be more obvious.

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Re: English multitopic

Postby Gord » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:22 am

"There was an old man."
"There an old man was."
"An old man was there."

I have no idea what a subject is, I missed that day in school; I just like to rearrange sentences for fun and money. (Not so much money.)
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Re: English multitopic

Postby TJrandom » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:34 am

Wouldn`t if the old man is a subject, depend upon the political system of the country?

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Re: English multitopic

Postby Gord » Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:11 am

TJrandom wrote:Wouldn`t if the old man is a subject, depend upon the political system of the country?

Whut? :|
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Re: English multitopic

Postby TJrandom » Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:23 am

Gord wrote:
TJrandom wrote:Wouldn`t if the old man is a subject, depend upon the political system of the country?

Whut? :|


Erm... a subject of one of these.... :write:

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Re: English multitopic

Postby Gord » Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:32 am

...I'm going for a walk. :burn:
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Re: English multitopic

Postby Gord » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:20 am

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Re: English multitopic

Postby Poodle » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:53 pm

Out on a limb time ...

The subject of a verb MUST be a noun or pronoun or gerund (that's a word like 'running' or 'parsing') or a phrase acting as a noun, pronoun or gerund. Of course, you could easily have an entire phrase ('The ugly bastard with nasal warts and syphilis ..') standing for a noun.
'There' doesn't fit into that category in a million years. Forget 'old' - that's a simple adjective designed to distract. The subject is 'man'.
I'm sure Milton did this stuff all the time, writing sentences several pages long which had the subject at the end. Here you go - the first few lines of Paradise Lost ...
"Of man’s first disobedience, and the fruit
Of that forbidden tree, whose mortal taste
Brought death into the world, and all our woe,
With loss of Eden, till one greater man
Restore us, and regain the blissful seat ..."
Find a subject amongst that lot.

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Postby Monster » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:17 pm

Poodle wrote:"Of man’s first disobedience, and the fruit
Of that forbidden tree, whose mortal taste
Brought death into the world, and all our woe,
With loss of Eden, till one greater man
Restore us, and regain the blissful seat ..."
Find a subject amongst that lot.

I don't think there is one. The closest to an independent clause is "till one greater man restore us", but it's not an independent clause due to the use of "till".
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Re: English multitopic

Postby Monster » Fri May 05, 2017 7:10 pm

I just saw this on Facebook.

I know a lot of people hate on it, but Cards Against Humanity can be printed off.

NO! You can't "hate on" anything. It's impossible. You can hate something, but you can't hate on something.
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Re: English multitopic

Postby Poodle » Fri May 05, 2017 9:33 pm

I completely agree, Monster. It seems it's de rigeur at this point in time to murder the language.

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Re: English multitopic

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat May 06, 2017 12:25 am

"Hate on it" seems entirely proper to me. Its how language grows, gives it nuance and local flavor.

Why you hating on it?
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Re: English multitopic

Postby Gord » Sat May 06, 2017 3:22 am

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:"Hate on it" seems entirely proper to me. Its how language grows, gives it nuance and local flavor.

Why you hating on it?

it's
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