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Re: English multitopic

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:14 pm

Poodle wrote:Meatloaf is one of those things which prove that there is no god. There is absolutely no purpose whatsoever in the existence of meatloaf.


Whaaaaa? I love meatloaf. Its how I get rid of left overs. Grind them all up, and call it "the secret ingredient." Works with chili too.
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Re: English multitopic

Postby TJrandom » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:07 am

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:
Poodle wrote:Meatloaf is one of those things which prove that there is no god. There is absolutely no purpose whatsoever in the existence of meatloaf.


Whaaaaa? I love meatloaf. Its how I get rid of left overs. Grind them all up, and call it "the secret ingredient." Works with chili too.


My morning curry - for every other day, is generally made a month in advance and frozen in consumable portions - and includes whatever is in supply at the time. All leftovers, veggies, etc. Meatloaf is just a bit dryer.

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Re: English multitopic

Postby Monster » Wed Aug 17, 2016 4:10 pm

Can anyone tell me what is the thing that all of these words have in common?

  • orgasm
  • alcoholic
  • encyclopedia
  • bisexual
  • cafeteria
  • aircraft
  • delicious

In the spoiler is a huge clue. Try to guess without looking at the spoiler.
Spoiler:
watergate
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Re: English multitopic

Postby JO 753 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 5:57 pm

They all hav letterz in their spelling!

Dont mean to interrupt, but this iz urjent.

If 'second' meanz an amount uv time and between 1st & 3rd, shoudnt 'first' also mean .5 secondz?
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Postby Monster » Wed Aug 17, 2016 7:19 pm

JO 753 wrote:If 'second' meanz an amount uv time and between 1st & 3rd, shoudnt 'first' also mean .5 secondz?

No. However, you are free to write text where that's exactly what first means.
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Postby TJrandom » Wed Aug 17, 2016 7:29 pm

Monster wrote:
JO 753 wrote:If 'second' meanz an amount uv time and between 1st & 3rd, shoudnt 'first' also mean .5 secondz?

No. However, you are free to write text where that's exactly what first means.


That would probably be a first...

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Re: English multitopic

Postby OlegTheBatty » Wed Aug 17, 2016 7:43 pm

JO 753 wrote:They all hav letterz in their spelling!

Dont mean to interrupt, but this iz urjent.

If 'second' meanz an amount uv time and between 1st & 3rd, shoudnt 'first' also mean .5 secondz?

Why are you assuming a linear sequence; and not exponential or logarithmic?
It could also be a Fibonacci sequence.
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Re: English multitopic

Postby TJrandom » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:20 pm

They were all written in your post.

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Postby Monster » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:47 pm

TJrandom wrote:They were all written in your post.

That's not the answer. I'll tell the answer in 2 days I guess.
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Re: English multitopic

Postby TJrandom » Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:14 pm

Monster had an orgasm with a bisexual alcoholic in the Watergate cafeteria, having met an encyclopedia salesman on an aircraft – delicious! (All can be used to create a libellous sentence...? :oops: )

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Re: English multitopic

Postby scrmbldggs » Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:23 pm

:hmm: Snitch!
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Re: English multitopic

Postby JO 753 » Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:41 am

OlegTheBatty wrote:Why are you assuming a linear sequence; and not exponential or logarithmic?
It could also be a Fibonacci sequence.


Now youre thinking! You can turn this into a new way to talk about math geek stuff. Oleg Verbal Notation iz the next big thing.
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Re: English multitopic

Postby Gord » Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:54 am

They're all compound words, blend words, or portmanteaus?
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Postby scrmbldggs » Thu Aug 18, 2016 7:26 am

They all can be found in an English dictionary?
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Re: English multitopic

Postby TJrandom » Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:18 am

Gord wrote:They're all compound words, blend words, or portmanteaus?


That is to say... they are English words... :lol:

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Re: English multitopic

Postby Poodle » Thu Aug 18, 2016 10:22 am

They all rhyme after a bottle of homebrew.

(They do too!!).



EDIT: They've all had their meanings shifted, too, mainly in the early 20th century.

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Postby Monster » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:04 pm

Gord wrote:They're all compound words, blend words, or portmanteaus?

This is the closest to what I was getting at.
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Re: English multitopic

Postby Gord » Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:02 pm

Monster wrote:
Gord wrote:They're all compound words, blend words, or portmanteaus?

This is the closest to what I was getting at.

Oh. I just made that up, I didn't think it meant anything. Can you explain?
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Re: English multitopic

Postby Monster » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:40 pm

Gord wrote:
Monster wrote:
Gord wrote:They're all compound words, blend words, or portmanteaus?

This is the closest to what I was getting at.

Oh. I just made that up, I didn't think it meant anything. Can you explain?

I'll explain tomorrow.
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Re: English multitopic

Postby TJrandom » Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:34 pm

Monster wrote:
Gord wrote:
Monster wrote:
Gord wrote:They're all compound words, blend words, or portmanteaus?

This is the closest to what I was getting at.

Oh. I just made that up, I didn't think it meant anything. Can you explain?

I'll explain tomorrow.


Having too much fun with your salesman... er, woman. :roll:

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Re: English multitopic

Postby Monster » Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:56 pm

Can anyone tell me what is the thing that all of these words have in common?

  • orgasm
  • alcoholic
  • encyclopedia
  • bisexual
  • cafeteria
  • aircraft
  • delicious

In the spoiler is a huge clue. Try to guess without looking at the spoiler.
Spoiler:
watergate



Each of these words can be used to form another word using the ending of the word. Most of them are informal/slang. Examples:


  • orgasm
    • foodgasm
    • evilgasm (from Order of the Stick)
  • alcoholic
    • chocoholic
    • shopaholic
  • encyclopedia
    • civilopedia (from Civilization)
    • wikipedia
  • bisexual
    • pansexual
  • cafeteria
    • washeteria
  • aircraft
    • spacecraft
    • hovercraft
  • delicious
    • bootylicious
    • babe-a-licious
  • watergate *
    • Bridgegate

Perhaps bootylicious and babe-a-licious sound stupid, but they're words that one can find in movies or books and they sound appropriate within the context of said medium.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_s ... %22_suffix
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Re: English multitopic

Postby Angel » Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:57 pm

How can you know any word when you
don't know the original word?
To be or not to be?
To believe or
Not to believe?
To be live or
Not to be live?
To exist or
Not to exist?
What was the question?

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Re: English multitopic

Postby Monster » Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:25 pm

Angel wrote:How can you know any word when you
don't know the original word?

I chose examples which look really obvious to me. You don't think those are obvious? I mean what the original word was.
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Re: English multitopic

Postby JO 753 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:41 pm

fistful

Watched A Fistful of Dollars the other day, then looking at the box, I thot that fistful iz incorrect; shoud be fist full. I suspected its kuz it wuz made by Italianz who didnt hav such a firm grasp uv English. 'Fistful' woud mean 'like a fist or relating to a fist or cauzed by a fist'. Think uv wordz with 'ful' az the suffix. wonderful, hurtful, wrongful, decietful, powerful.

But no.

Insted uv being a minor mistake by a foriner, its another example uv inconsistensy in English.
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Postby Monster » Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:12 pm

JO 753 wrote:fistful

Watched A Fistful of Dollars the other day, then looking at the box, I thot that fistful iz incorrect; shoud be fist full. I suspected its kuz it wuz made by Italianz who didnt hav such a firm grasp uv English. 'Fistful' woud mean 'like a fist or relating to a fist or cauzed by a fist'. Think uv wordz with 'ful' az the suffix. wonderful, hurtful, wrongful, decietful, powerful.

But no.

Insted uv being a minor mistake by a foriner, its another example uv inconsistensy in English.

Good lord. You're complaining that languages evolve. Most, if not all, languages in the world evolve.
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Re: English multitopic

Postby OlegTheBatty » Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:40 pm

Monster wrote:
JO 753 wrote:fistful

Watched A Fistful of Dollars the other day, then looking at the box, I thot that fistful iz incorrect; shoud be fist full. I suspected its kuz it wuz made by Italianz who didnt hav such a firm grasp uv English. 'Fistful' woud mean 'like a fist or relating to a fist or cauzed by a fist'. Think uv wordz with 'ful' az the suffix. wonderful, hurtful, wrongful, decietful, powerful.

But no.

Insted uv being a minor mistake by a foriner, its another example uv inconsistensy in English.

Good lord. You're complaining that languages evolve. Most, if not all, languages in the world evolve.
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Re: English multitopic

Postby JO 753 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 6:15 pm

Invalid. No evolution occuring in this example. Closer to dejeneration, but its not even that kuz there wuz no order to begin with.
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Re: English multitopic

Postby Angel » Thu Aug 25, 2016 6:16 pm

Monster wrote:
Angel wrote:How can you know any word when you
don't know the original word?

I chose examples which look really obvious to me. You don't think those are obvious? I mean what the original word was.


So you don't use words with more than one
meaning & or spelling ?
To be or not to be?
To believe or
Not to believe?
To be live or
Not to be live?
To exist or
Not to exist?
What was the question?

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Re: English multitopic

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JO 753 wrote:Invalid. No evolution occuring in this example. Closer to dejeneration, but its not even that kuz there wuz no order to begin with.

Derrrrr, whut? Change over time is evolution. The reason it wasn't particularly orderly to begin with is because English borrows words from a multitude of other languages; thus, there are inconsistencies.
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Re: English multitopic

Postby Monster » Thu Aug 25, 2016 6:53 pm

Angel wrote:
Monster wrote:
Angel wrote:How can you know any word when you
don't know the original word?

I chose examples which look really obvious to me. You don't think those are obvious? I mean what the original word was.


So you don't use words with more than one
meaning & or spelling ?

Context typically clears up those sorts of problems.
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Re: English multitopic

Postby JO 753 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:32 pm

I hav sum tomatoz evolving in my frij rite now.
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Re: English multitopic

Postby Austin Harper » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:52 pm

What's the problem?
A fistful of dollars is the amount of dollars that fit in a fist.
A fist full of dollars is a fist that is full of dollars.
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Re: English multitopic

Postby Matthew Ellard » Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:40 am

Monster wrote: Derrrrr, whut? Change over time is evolution. The reason it wasn't particularly orderly to begin with is because English borrows words from a multitude of other languages; thus, there are inconsistencies.


I'm with you. If we expand the concept to popular expressions, it becomes even clearer.

When I'm "learning the ropes" at a new job, I'm obviously not on a ship with rigging. The expression has evolved to a new meaning. Then we get individual words that used to be unrelated expressions. When I "Bamboozle" a client, I am not running up a false flag to capture another countries merchant ship.

The tools of good creative writing, metaphors, similes, euphemism and so on, all push towards the ongoing evolution of language.

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Re: English multitopic

Postby Angel » Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:23 am

Austin Harper wrote:What's the problem?
A fistful of dollars is the amount of dollars that fit in a fist.
A fist full of dollars is a fist that is full of dollars.

Are they paper or coins?
To be or not to be?
To believe or
Not to believe?
To be live or
Not to be live?
To exist or
Not to exist?
What was the question?

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Re: English multitopic

Postby JO 753 » Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:41 am

Austin Harper wrote:What's the problem?
A fistful of dollars is the amount of dollars that fit in a fist.
A fist full of dollars is a fist that is full of dollars.


I didnt think uv that.

I'm feeling less fistful now. xanks!
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Postby Monster » Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:42 pm

JO 753 wrote:I hav sum tomatoz evolving in my frij rite now.

Did you know that the same word has different meanings in different contexts? Yes, I know, it's amazing.
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Postby Angel » Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:42 pm

Monster wrote:
JO 753 wrote:I hav sum tomatoz evolving in my frij rite now.

Did you know that the same word has different meanings in different contexts? Yes, I know, it's amazing.


Are they evolving or fermenting?
There is a difference between life
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To be or not to be?
To believe or
Not to believe?
To be live or
Not to be live?
To exist or
Not to exist?
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Re: English multitopic

Postby Gord » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:19 am

JO 753 wrote:
Austin Harper wrote:What's the problem?
A fistful of dollars is the amount of dollars that fit in a fist.
A fist full of dollars is a fist that is full of dollars.

I didnt think uv that.

I'm feeling less fistful now. xanks!

And for your further edification: The ending -ful means "full of, having, characterised by" or "amount or volume contained". Think of restful, meaningfulhandful, bellyful.

Etymology, folks!
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Re: English multitopic

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"meaningfulhandful" - that's a mouthful!
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