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Postby JO 753 » Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:16 pm

Do you like to watch TED talks? I'm sure there must be plenty uv lame wunz, but if sumwunz refering you to wun, its likely going to be interesting.

Herez wun about why the education system suks: http://www.unitedvoice.com/why-schools-kill-creativity/
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:35 pm

I find all talks regarding education to be boring.

Relevant issues and criticisms being made rarely connect.

Here is the answer to all questions: teach the kiddie to read, give him access to all books, leave him alone.

Note: many kiddies will choose not to read. They are called the electorate.
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Postby JO 753 » Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:43 pm

Usually sumwun in the system, especially a dean, iz going to giv a boring lecture, droning on about standardz and return on investment for society.

This guy wuz a dean, but shoud hav been a stand up comedian. He gets sum good laffs and haz profound insites.
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:10 pm

Your link would not open for me...probably some adobe flash fubar. This one did:

http://www.ted.com/talks/ken_robinson_s ... n#t-167744

I stopped listening at "All children have tremendous talent." Its true, only in a meaningless sense.
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Postby Gord » Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:04 am

JO 753 wrote:Do you like to watch TED talks?

Sometimes.
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Postby Frank Hoffman » Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:04 am

I guess it was about 7 years ago I watched my first TED Talk "My Stroke of Insight", and I was blown away and immediately hooked. I loved watching each new TED Talk as they were posted on the website. Now, however the quality has become more uneven as they expanded, adding regional TED talk events. Sometimes it seems they now just use anyone talking about anything to fill stage time.

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Postby JO 753 » Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:45 am

I dont watch them regularly. Usually sumwun emailz me about wun they really like.
You must know sum outstanding examplez.
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Postby Frank Hoffman » Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:30 am

JO 753 wrote:You must know sum outstanding examplez.

I'll have to re-visit and list my favorites, as I just remember the experience, not the presenters name. There was the World Health Organization statistician with the moving (and moving) charts, also the talk about the parasites that take over insect brains to cause them to commit suicide, and the New York City resident who fought city zoning and indifference to make a small riverside public park, and the now outdated demonstration of never seen before touch-screen control of a computer (before everyone had an iPad)... there's just so many. Start with "My Stroke of Insight", the story of a neurologist who had a stroke; she was able to describe the experience so well because she understood what was happening while it was happening but could do nothing about it... the part about dialing the phone for help is as funny as it is serious.

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Postby Bludragon44 » Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:10 am

JO 753 wrote:Do you like to watch TED talks? I'm sure there must be plenty uv lame wunz, but if sumwunz refering you to wun, its likely going to be interesting.

Herez wun about why the education system suks: http://www.unitedvoice.com/why-schools-kill-creativity/


I watch TED talks all the time. Im a bit nerdy at times lol.

Though I will agree, the current education system is trash at all angles. Purposely making students take uncessary classes that have nothing or little to do with their main subject. It's fairly obvious the Universities profit from students taking these random classes through text books, etc.

And lets not forget the meaningless APA format that's almost mandatory on every essay assignment. lol I have yet until this day understood how writing in APA format improves the skills of ones writing and reading skills. I mean, the ancients used to write on sheep skin and prospered through out time lol. School seems to be slowly trying to program students into cooperate robots.
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Postby Gord » Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:49 am

Bludragon44 wrote:Purposely making students take uncessary classes that have nothing or little to do with their main subject.

They used to call that "broadening your horizons" and it was thought to be a good thing for people to be familiar with things outside of their normal sphere. Has the world of knowledge become so large that expanded horizons are a detriment now? I don't know. I used to think that being a well-rounded individual made one greater than one had been before. Now I think focusing on a single part of the "machinery of society" is seen as the way to be great.

I just don't know.

It's fairly obvious the Universities profit from students taking these random classes through text books, etc.

I think that's true no matter which courses they take.
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Postby Bludragon44 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:10 pm

They used to call that "broadening your horizons" and it was thought to be a good thing for people to be familiar with things outside of their normal sphere. Has the world of knowledge become so large that expanded horizons are a detriment now? I don't know. I used to think that being a well-rounded individual made one greater than one had been before. Now I think focusing on a single part of the "machinery of society" is seen as the way to be great.



I feel it's still necessary to broaden your horizon when it comes to knowledge, though I believe that way of knowledge should come naturally from that individuals own passion of interest, Not the schools. That seems to be problem I think, the schools are trying to introduce cooperate skills of interest, instead of individual self interest. The education system has become robotic like because of the lack of creativity and spontaneity.

What I've learned in my 25 years of existence is that people perform a lot better by the things their naturally driven to. It's basically like "their calling", a form of destiny that is meant for them because it's what they enjoy. Schools should encourage students to stick their passions, and learn to master it. So yea I agree, once someone sticks to one goal they eventually become great masters of it. Imagine if everyone became a Davinci at what they loved. That in it's self is higher intelligence than any petty cooperate level 9 to 5 job. How legends are born.

The education system better improve fast or else Google might become a better educator than teachers LOLOl.. I learn everything in an instant on Google versuses 4 month classes. This is the future of knowledge.
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Postby Gord » Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:26 pm

Have you tried googling grammar and spelling yet? ;)
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Postby JO 753 » Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:14 am

You mean corporate, not cooperate. So much for spellcheck! HA!
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Postby Gord » Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:23 pm

JO 753 wrote:You mean corporate, not cooperate. So much for spellcheck! HA!

Ohhhh! I thought he was referring to "cooperatives", like this: http://www.bcca.coop/content/co-operati ... r-business
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Postby Frank Hoffman » Thu Oct 22, 2015 8:25 pm

Bludragon44 wrote:School seems to be slowly trying to program students into cooperate robots.

Yes, I fear that may be so; but from within the system the pull is perhaps so pervasive the collective end state is invisible among all the daily individual successes and failures (standardized tests, social positioning, and spectator sports). Liberal arts are subversive, and... except when presented as old, irrelevant social history... are to be avoided.

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Postby Frank Hoffman » Thu Oct 22, 2015 8:39 pm

JO 753 wrote:3B_1itqCKHo

Thank you for posting that, it is now on my list of favorites.

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Postby JO 753 » Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:14 pm

Not a TED, but very interesting:
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:58 am

I still don't understand what quantum computing is or how its done. The speaker kinda skips over that to claiming we are close to computers being able to access all possible decisions that exist at the quantum level? That may be true, but doesn't explain what it ....or for me, how it is made. something about the Qbit being different?

Good news: I guess I'll be alive to see it. Sounds like the first few quantum computers should be plugged in via a long extension cord with every hooman having his/her hand on it ready to pull?
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Postby JO 753 » Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:26 am

Too late.

Az I figyrz it, an AI will figure out time travel soon after being plugged in, so 'too late' iz not just an understatement, but a misconseption. We're still here, so it must think we are useful for sumthing.
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JO 753 wrote: We're still here, so it must think we are useful for sumthing.

We are........the Matrix.....man!
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bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:I still don't understand what quantum computing is or how its done. The speaker kinda skips over that to claiming we are close to computers being able to access all possible decisions that exist at the quantum level? That may be true, but doesn't explain what it ....or for me, how it is made. something about the Qbit being different?

Good news: I guess I'll be alive to see it. Sounds like the first few quantum computers should be plugged in via a long extension cord with every hooman having his/her hand on it ready to pull?

Quantum computing = using molecules to store the state of a bit.
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Postby JO 753 » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:11 pm

Moleculez! Iz there nothing they can not do?
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:22 pm

Thanks Monster. that sounds right. Not new computing, just new storage?...which is interactive, I know. I have to think the speaker said that and I am just too slow to pick up on it. I googled a bit and didn't find the answer as direct and simple as you put it.
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Postby Poodle » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:04 pm

No - it's not just storage. Quantum computing differs radically from conventional computing, and its output is expressed in terms of probability.

No, I don't really understand it.

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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:20 pm

Poodle: "output in terms of probability" surely must be the software program that get loaded to run?...something computers do now given the right program. Only if you know or have a guess....as I think you, me, and Richard Feynman all agree?
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Postby JO 753 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:26 am

You definitely missed IT, bobbo. Watch agen.
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Science Fundamentalism...is exactly what happens when there’s a significant, perceived ideological threat to one’s traditions and identity.

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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:55 am

Science Delusion: what a load. I stopped with the Second Dogma.

1. Humans are like a machine becomes Humans are a Machine. That is not any Scientific Dogma I have ever heard. Straw Man argument.

2. ....more than humans are "conscious." Simple BS.

.....not worth the time to listen to the rest of it............or does someone disagree with a summary and time stamp?

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You missed the best stuff
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Postby gorgeous » Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:58 pm

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:Science Delusion: what a load. I stopped with the Second Dogma.

1. Humans are like a machine becomes Humans are a Machine. That is not any Scientific Dogma I have ever heard. Straw Man argument.

2. ....more than humans are "conscious." Simple BS.

.....not worth the time to listen to the rest of it............or does someone disagree with a summary and time stamp?

woo woooooooo!

---------------------you sort of prove his point...that scientists have rigid beliefs and deny what doesn't fit into them...
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