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The most educated countries in the world

Postby kennyc » Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:45 am

Interesting stuff but I'm convinced the guy is a zombie....I mean look at that stare, those blinking eyes, and what the hell is he looking at? Not the interviewer.....I would have thought he was blind, but he's holding papers that he's apparently reading from...


The most educated countries in the world
More people access higher education today than ever before. One in three adults in developed countries held a college degree in 2012, a substantial increase from 2000 when just over one in five had attained such qualifications.

According to data recently released by the Organization for Co-operation and Development (OECD), more than half of Russian adults held tertiary degrees in 2012 — the equivalent of college degree in the United States — more than in any other country reviewed. Meanwhile, less than 4% of Chinese adults had tertiary qualifications in 2012, less than in any other country. 24/7 Wall St. reviewed the 10 countries with the highest proportion of adults holding a college degree.

The most educated populations tend to be in countries where tertiary education spending is among the highest. Tertiary education spending in six of the most educated countries was higher than the OECD average of $13,957. Spending on tertiary education in the U.S., for example, was $26,021 per student, by far the most in the world.

According to Andreas Schleicher, director for education skills at the OECD, education in the U.S. has become much more expensive, and student debt burdens have reached troubling levels in recent years. Despite these facts, it is still considered a good investment, as U.S. residents with higher degrees earn substantially more than their less educated peers.

It is also a worthwhile investment for the government. Schleicher explained that "taxpayers in the U.S. get $200,000 more out of every graduate than what they actually invested, so it's a good business for the government as well."

Despite the value of investing in education, there are exceptions. Korea and the Russian Federation both spent less than $10,000 on tertiary education per student in 2011, considerably lower than the OECD average. Yet, they still have among the most educated populations.
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Postby Gord » Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:51 am

kennyc wrote:http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/09/13/24-7-wall-st-most-educated-countries/15460733/

These are the most educated countries in the world....

2) Canada

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Postby scrmbldggs » Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:46 pm

Yep, quantity. But what about the quality?

Even the top students in the United States are behind: This year, the PISA report offered regional scores for Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Florida. Massachusetts, which is a high-achieving U.S. state and which averaged above the national PISA score, is still two years of formal schooling behind Shanghai.
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Postby Gord » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:03 am

scrmbldggs wrote:Yep, quantity. But what about the quality?

And what about street smarts?

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Postby scrmbldggs » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:15 am

Malf would know about that.

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Postby scowl » Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:33 pm

My experience is that you go to college to unlearn all the junk that they taught you in high school and learn the important stuff that they never taught, either because the teachers couldn't understand it well enough to teach it or because it might challenge parents' beliefs.

Then after you get a degree, you get a job to unlearn all the things the professors in college thought happened in the real world. The faster you can do this, the more successful you will be.

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Postby Austin Harper » Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:37 pm

My experience is that you go to college to expand on all the classes that you took in high school that are relevant to your major.
Then after you get a degree you get a job to expand on all of the classes that you took in college that are relevant to your field.
Or you go to grad school and expand on all of the classes that you took in undergrad that are relevant to your narrowed focus and then either remain in academia continuing this cycle or you transition into the workforce.
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Postby kennyc » Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:59 pm

scowl wrote:My experience is that you go to college to unlearn all the junk that they taught you in high school and learn the important stuff that they never taught, either because the teachers couldn't understand it well enough to teach it or because it might challenge parents' beliefs.

Then after you get a degree, you get a job to unlearn all the things the professors in college thought happened in the real world. The faster you can do this, the more successful you will be.


Guess that fits your username. :D
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Postby fromthehills » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:43 am

My experience is that you build houses for a while, then hire the people that went to college for English or Art History, and in one case, a masters in Physics, and teach them how to build.

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Postby Gord » Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:11 am

My experience is that you go to university, expand on what you learned in high school, suddenly lose your mind (perhaps due to a head injury suffered years earlier), then spend the rest of your life trying to recover a semblance of normalcy while waiting to die. 8-)
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Re: The most educated countries in the world

Postby Matthew Ellard » Wed Oct 01, 2014 5:34 am

My experience is that you go to university, have more sex than I ever imagined possible and occasionally wander into tutorial and lectures. That was "Arts" in the late 70's

Then this horrible thing happened when I later studied law. I failed a first year module and the "real world kicked in".

The New Regime with two weekly lectures.
(Monday to Thursday) Accounting work 8.30 to 6pm, Study 7pm to 9.30pm
(Friday) Accounting work 8.30 to 6pm, Friday night off
(Sat, Sun & public holidays) Study 10am to 5pm, Night time off.

This went on for five and half years without a break. It almost killed me.

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Postby octopus1 » Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:15 am

Matthew Ellard wrote:My experience is that you go to university, have more sex than I ever imagined possible and occasionally wander into tutorial and lectures. That was "Arts" in the late 70's

Then this horrible thing happened when I later studied law. I failed a first year module and the "real world kicked in".

The New Regime with two weekly lectures.
(Monday to Thursday) Accounting work 8.30 to 6pm, Study 7pm to 9.30pm
(Friday) Accounting work 8.30 to 6pm, Friday night off
(Sat, Sun & public holidays) Study 10am to 5pm, Night time off.

This went on for five and half years without a break. It almost killed me.


'Twas the other way around for me :lol:

Law (disillusioned), then Physics (creeping disillusionment (At least with the establishment...))

I didn't have time for sex, I had to wank off to 80085 on a calculator :shock:

Maybe that's why I'm not the most mature person for my age... Making up for time lost to books and graphing paper :P
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Postby kennyc » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:54 pm

How mature can an octopus be, really?
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Postby octopus1 » Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:08 pm

kennyc wrote:How mature can an octopus be, really?


You'd have to tenderize it. With a hammer :shock:

(Yes, I've seen the recipes!)
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Postby Gord » Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:22 am

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Re: The most educated countries in the world

Postby Flash » Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:45 am

Gord wrote:
My experience is that you go to university, expand on what you learned in high school, suddenly lose your mind (perhaps due to a head injury suffered years earlier), then spend the rest of your life trying to recover a semblance of normalcy while waiting to die. 8-)


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My experience is that you go to university, have more sex than I ever imagined possible and occasionally wander into tutorial and lectures.


The words of wisdom from both Gord and Matthew. Really, I am not kidding. :mrgreen:
I would only add that one of the things I learned at the university was also being able to get really drunk and still explain who Plato was and what his allegory of the cave was all about.

But since we are talking about the educational systems in the world I would only add that just recently Germany made the higher education tuition free joining in this such impoverished socialistic countries as Netherlands, Denmark and I think Finland.

How can those countries have free education and a high standard of living at the same time but the good old, super rich and exceptional USA (and Canada) punish those who want to get the university education with a student debt now greater than the housing and the credit card debt probably put together?

I don't know, but do you think giving trillions of dollars in cash and armaments to all kinds of unsavory characters around the world has something to do with it?
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Postby Gord » Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:19 am

Flash wrote:How can those countries have free education and a high standard of living at the same time but the good old, super rich and exceptional USA (and Canada) punish those who want to get the university education with a student debt now greater than the housing and the credit card debt probably put together?

Because Communism!
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Postby Flash » Sat Oct 04, 2014 5:17 am

Yes, what else. Karl Marx insisted on free education but no one seems to be aware that during his little drinking sessions with Engels he also insisted that the peoples car (Volkswagen), should be made in Germany and that there should be no speed limit on the autobahns.

Now we know how all of this came about don't we. ;)
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Postby Gord » Sat Oct 04, 2014 10:49 am

Flash wrote:...he also insisted...that there should be no speed limit on the autobahns.

Did he have somewhere to be, fast?
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Postby PennyDotson » Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:45 pm

My experience is what you learned in highschool is just an expansion of what you learn in college. Then everything you have learned means nothing, because it is not used in real life situations in the workplace and you basically have to start all over and build on experience. lol From my experience, school has not helped people much, except help them find ways to pass classes the easiest way they knew how, which made for unintelligent workers. Not all, but some, who just wanted that degree to look good and make money.

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Postby fromthehills » Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:39 pm

Flash wrote:...student debt now greater than the housing and the credit card debt probably put together?


It's still not greater than housing debt. Just for clarity. It's still godawful outrageous, and needs to be addressed.

I don't know the solution, but you'd think that investing in our future would be a capitalist ideal, just as it is a socialist ideal. If we can spend a billion dollars a day educating other countries in democracy, it seems we could spend a bit on keeping our populace ahead in technology, medicine, and well...educators. Our teachers often take the low paying job, because they aren't educated enough to get good jobs. That seems ass backwards to me

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Postby PennyDotson » Tue Dec 02, 2014 3:57 am

It does seem backward to me as well but who really knows what's going on these days anymore?


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