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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:05 pm

Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:
Jeffk 1970 wrote:
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Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote: 7 is a holy number in Judaism. So are 13, 18 and 40. Not only 6 million is not a holy of significant number in Jewish culture - ANCIENT HEBREW DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A WORD FOR "MILLION" IN IT.
WHHHAAAATTTTTT??

With friends like you, the Holocaust Promotion crew don't need any enemies! Now you're taking this whole thing back to the grade school level of lampshades!

Numbnuts better have a private father to son with you pretty soon!
Can you speak or read ancient Hebrew?
He only knows the version where "Goyim" translates to "cattle".

Yup. Looks like he doesn’t want to answer my question so I’ll conclude the answer is no.
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Post by Denying-History » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:11 pm

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
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They had no desire to go back to Hungary
“They” i.e. the missing 300,000, didn’t go anywhere, they were dead.
According to Piper a document from July 11, 1944 a total of 437,402 Jews were deported to Auscchwitz. As for the number of "missing" this really depends on the number of Durchgangsjuden which is between 25,000-118,000 Jews.
Sergey Romanov, writing about the Glaser list, and relying on Gerlach and Aly: "The number of Hungarian Jews gassed upon arrival at Auschwitz":
Gerlach and Aly state that the 4 transports redirected to Strasshof consisted of about 15,000 Hungarian Jews. Assuming that Veesenmayer’s figure of 437,402 deported Jews is correct, and subtracting 15,000 Jews who went to Strasshof and about 104,000 Jews not gassed upon arrival, and rounding the result, we can conclude that about 320,000 Hungarian Jews were gassed on arrival, not about 400,000, as has been assumed by historians until recently.
additional resources:
High Level Data from Stark on Number of Jews in Hungary, 1941 and 1945
DEGOB population pyramid re: survivors returning to Hungay
"Jürgen Graf's lie about the Hungarian Jewish children."
Ah, basically corresponding to Pressac - but for different reasons.
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Re: Is Holocaust Denial really dead ?

Post by VFX » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:06 pm

Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:


Still -
1. As already said - what you guys do is just a pathetic case of cherry picking. There plenty of pre-war newspapers the reference "3 million", "5 million", "4 million" or "7 million" jews who are in danger. You just pick the one's that fit your agenda.


2. Second, it could be argued that despite that, the 6 million figure is more prominent than others. But even that has a perfectly good reason: have you noticed that practically all of those newspapers refer to the troubles of Jews in "Russia" or "Eastern Europe"? Well, guess what - in 1905, the Jewish population in the Russian Empire was acutally counted at 6,060,415. Since the Soviets took over 12 later, it makes sense that this figure and census were still the only thing available to westerners even 35 years later.

3. "Magic" 6 million. I know you'd just say that I'm putting words in your mouth and deny it, but I clearly see that you hinitng at 6 million being a sacred number in the Jewish religion/Kabalah/Talmud. Well, as a proud dirty kike I am happy to inform you that it isn't. 7 is a holy number in Judaism. So are 13, 18 and 40. Not only 6 million is not a holy of significant number in Jewish culture - ANCIENT HEBREW DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A WORD FOR "MILLION" IN IT. The only way for a 1st century Jew to write "6 million" in hebrew, is writing what could be translated as "six-thousand-ten-thousands" (ששת אלפי רבבות).Go ahead and search any Jewish religous text for those exact words.
Yup OK..not the Torah but close enough. You are changing the goal post by talking about ancient scripture. I am talking about the 6 million used from the end of the 19th century until present.
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Re: Is Holocaust Denial really dead ?

Post by Im_Not_Creative_Enough » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:52 pm

VFX wrote:
Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:


Still -
1. As already said - what you guys do is just a pathetic case of cherry picking. There plenty of pre-war newspapers the reference "3 million", "5 million", "4 million" or "7 million" jews who are in danger. You just pick the one's that fit your agenda.

2. Second, it could be argued that despite that, the 6 million figure is more prominent than others. But even that has a perfectly good reason: have you noticed that practically all of those newspapers refer to the troubles of Jews in "Russia" or "Eastern Europe"? Well, guess what - in 1905, the Jewish population in the Russian Empire was acutally counted at 6,060,415. Since the Soviets took over 12 later, it makes sense that this figure and census were still the only thing available to westerners even 35 years later.

3. "Magic" 6 million. I know you'd just say that I'm putting words in your mouth and deny it, but I clearly see that you hinitng at 6 million being a sacred number in the Jewish religion/Kabalah/Talmud. Well, as a proud dirty kike I am happy to inform you that it isn't. 7 is a holy number in Judaism. So are 13, 18 and 40. Not only 6 million is not a holy of significant number in Jewish culture - ANCIENT HEBREW DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A WORD FOR "MILLION" IN IT. The only way for a 1st century Jew to write "6 million" in hebrew, is writing what could be translated as "six-thousand-ten-thousands" (ששת אלפי רבבות).Go ahead and search any Jewish religous text for those exact words.
Yup OK..not the Torah but close enough. You are changing the goal post by talking about ancient scripture. I am talking about the 6 million used from the end of the 19th century until present.
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1. "Close enough"? LOL. Let's put it that way: if the Torah ranked #1 in importance to the Jewish religion, than the "Tashuvu" text, which is, in the end, just the rantings of a 20TH CENTURY Rabbi would be ranked liked... #865,731 or something. That's not "close". I mean, it doesn't even qualify as a "religous text"... a book from 1990 that had public distribution isn't exactly something that is being read at the synagouge or studied in a Yeshiva.

2. I am not changing the goalposts here. In order for your theory about 6 million being a prominent Jewish number to work, you need to bring proofs that date back to the formation of basic Judaism. If the "6 million" concept would have been invented as a religous concept back in the 19th century, that wouldn't have been enough time for it to develop as a significant and symbolic number.

3. At the end of the day, this text is just but is a lone man's a posteriori interpretation of a religious verse, that is to say, he made this {!#%@} up AFTER the war.

see google books: https://bit.ly/2HgJV7I

And indeed, it is true - the above passage comes from the above pictured book. So where did Rabbi Benjamin Blech get his prophecy from? The Liberty Bell, an iconic symbol of American independence located in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, contains an inscription IN ENGLISH which is the first half of Leviticus 25:10. Rabbi Benjamin Blech (whose writings about what follows has been repeated in a book called "The Holocaust Dogma of Judaism" by a certain Ben Weintraub, probably a pen name of the book's publisher Robert L. Brock[1]) starts babbling on pages 214 and 215 of his book "The Secrets of Hebrew Words", that, because in the second half of Lev 25:10, "ye shall return" in Hebrew is spelled incorrectly (where? certainly not on the Liberty Bell where the inscription is in English!), with the same kind of mind-bending "logic" used by people who talk about a "Bible code" and other numerology BS like "9+1+1 = 11 = shape of the twin towers = therefore 9/11", that it is missing a letter that also stands for the number six, which in turn he magically interprets as the number six MILLION, and therefore claims we have a prophecy where the second half of Lev 25:10 not inscribed on the Liberty Bell, but saying "ye shall return every man unto his possession and ye shall return every man unto his family" (KJV), which actually talks about the eventual end of slavery, is somehow actually talking about Jews returning to Israel in 1948 minus six million because "ye shall return" is misspelled somewhere and what's missing is a vav which stands for six. What a load of dangerous nonsense.

Denier often refer to some alleged mystical Jewish literature (actually relying not on primary sources but on a pseudonymous neo-Nazi) that allegedly says that the Torah predicts 6 million Jews. Even if there is such literature, it's postwar, so those are not predictions but postdictions (like the so-called "Torah Codes"). They therefore don't prove any alleged religious significance of the 6 million number in the pre-war Judaism (not that such a significance would be in any way relevant to the established historical facts).
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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:58 pm

Yeah, I’m staying out of the religious discussion cause I don’t know a damn thing about it. Thanks, INCE for clearing up this mess.
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Post by VFX » Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:01 pm

Rense.com: Dr. Harrell Rhome
Debunking the 6 million
“6,000,000 Jews
died in the Holocaust. Everybody knows that.” Official history
books, schools, universities, preachers, pundits and the popular
press tell us this over and over. Memorials and survivors are
everywhere, and the cinema, plus the powerful broadcast media
never, ever let us forget it. This truly magical number
continually works its spell, producing uncounted millions of
Hollow-Co$t dollars and euros each year.
First of all, were 6,000,000
Jews killed in WWII? Well, according to population records, it
seems rather improbable. Moreover, the obviously important
mystic 6,000,000 and the accompanying magic word, Holocaust
(always religiously spelled with a capital H), were invoked many
years before the Second World War, as in the 1919 propaganda
piece below. Ben Weintraub’s 1995 book, Holocaust Dogma Of
Judaism, fully explores and explains the Kabalistic gematria and
occultism involved in the number. 6,000,000 is the number of
perfect souls times ten, and ten is number of the Sephiroth, the
divine emanations of G_d as seen in the Kabala.
Thus, it is numerologically predetermined, and through
various dark conjuring rites, supernaturally imbued with power.
As a result, it can never, ever be changed. This is critical,
central to the hex. 6,000,000 is the number. There are never
more deaths; there are never less. 6,000,000 is the number. It
must be ritually repeated and publicly acknowledged. The spell
cannot work any other way. As you see, we are exorcising and
demystifying this elemental and thoroughly essential figure.
This exact and perfect number of 6,000,000 is crucial. Would
altering it by debunking and exposing it effect a Kabalistic
change? The thwarting of a heinous Hebrew hex? The
unworking of a Satanic Semitic spell? Let it be!
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:hmm: ...and look who immediately made a new one... :roll:
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Post by scrmbldggs » Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:08 pm

Actually, since they like to play in it, they would be sad if this one went away.
VFX wrote:Rense.com: Dr. Harrell Rhome
Debunking the 6 million
“6,000,000 Jews
died in the Holocaust. Everybody knows that.” Official history
books, schools, universities, preachers, pundits and the popular
press tell us this over and over. Memorials and survivors are
everywhere, and the cinema, plus the powerful broadcast media
never, ever let us forget it. This truly magical number
continually works its spell, producing uncounted millions of
Hollow-Co$t dollars and euros each year.
First of all, were 6,000,000
Jews killed in WWII? Well, according to population records, it
seems rather improbable. Moreover, the obviously important
mystic 6,000,000 and the accompanying magic word, Holocaust
(always religiously spelled with a capital H), were invoked many
years before the Second World War, as in the 1919 propaganda
piece below. Ben Weintraub’s 1995 book, Holocaust Dogma Of
Judaism, fully explores and explains the Kabalistic gematria and
occultism involved in the number. 6,000,000 is the number of
perfect souls times ten, and ten is number of the Sephiroth, the
divine emanations of G_d as seen in the Kabala.
Thus, it is numerologically predetermined, and through
various dark conjuring rites, supernaturally imbued with power.
As a result, it can never, ever be changed. This is critical,
central to the hex. 6,000,000 is the number. There are never
more deaths; there are never less. 6,000,000 is the number. It
must be ritually repeated and publicly acknowledged. The spell
cannot work any other way. As you see, we are exorcising and
demystifying this elemental and thoroughly essential figure.
This exact and perfect number of 6,000,000 is crucial. Would
altering it by debunking and exposing it effect a Kabalistic
change? The thwarting of a heinous Hebrew hex? The
unworking of a Satanic Semitic spell? Let it be!
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Post by VFX » Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:09 pm

scrmbldggs wrote::hmm: ...and look who immediately made a new one... :roll:
That is just a taste, you should read all of it from that wonderful scholar.
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Post by Im_Not_Creative_Enough » Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:10 pm

VFX wrote:Rense.com: Dr. Harrell Rhome
Debunking the 6 million
“6,000,000 Jews
died in the Holocaust. Everybody knows that.” Official history
books, schools, universities, preachers, pundits and the popular
press tell us this over and over. Memorials and survivors are
everywhere, and the cinema, plus the powerful broadcast media
never, ever let us forget it. This truly magical number
continually works its spell, producing uncounted millions of
Hollow-Co$t dollars and euros each year.
First of all, were 6,000,000
Jews killed in WWII? Well, according to population records, it
seems rather improbable. Moreover, the obviously important
mystic 6,000,000 and the accompanying magic word, Holocaust
(always religiously spelled with a capital H), were invoked many
years before the Second World War, as in the 1919 propaganda
piece below. Ben Weintraub’s 1995 book, Holocaust Dogma Of
Judaism, fully explores and explains the Kabalistic gematria and
occultism involved in the number. 6,000,000 is the number of
perfect souls times ten, and ten is number of the Sephiroth, the
divine emanations of G_d as seen in the Kabala.
Thus, it is numerologically predetermined, and through
various dark conjuring rites, supernaturally imbued with power.
As a result, it can never, ever be changed. This is critical,
central to the hex. 6,000,000 is the number. There are never
more deaths; there are never less. 6,000,000 is the number. It
must be ritually repeated and publicly acknowledged. The spell
cannot work any other way. As you see, we are exorcising and
demystifying this elemental and thoroughly essential figure.
This exact and perfect number of 6,000,000 is crucial. Would
altering it by debunking and exposing it effect a Kabalistic
change? The thwarting of a heinous Hebrew hex? The
unworking of a Satanic Semitic spell? Let it be!
Allright, you caught me! Now I have to drink your blood and feast on your corpse during Passover...
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Post by Im_Not_Creative_Enough » Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:18 pm

VFX wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote::hmm: ...and look who immediately made a new one... :roll:
That is just a taste, you should read all of it from that wonderful scholar.
7 pages into this "study" and already there's a Red Cross cancard AND a World Almanac cancard in it. Yeah, not gonna work.
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Post by scrmbldggs » Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:20 pm

VFX wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote::hmm: ...and look who immediately made a new one... :roll:
That is just a taste, you should read all of it from that wonderful scholar.
You don't have to prove to us repeatedly that certain challenges are impeding your performance. Really.


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Post by VFX » Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:26 pm

scrmbldggs wrote:
VFX wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote::hmm: ...and look who immediately made a new one... :roll:
That is just a taste, you should read all of it from that wonderful scholar.
You don't have to prove to us repeatedly that certain challenges are impeding your performance. Really.


Best wishes :)
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Post by Im_Not_Creative_Enough » Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:34 pm

VFX, if you have any questions regarding the matter I highly suggest you ask them on here.
https://judaism.stackexchange.com/

Now, I know what you might think by just reading the title of the webstie - "A JEWISH site? Pffft, it's biased, off course that when confronted with my amazing evidence they will try to lie about Jewish texts in order to make them look better". Well, actually they don't. From my experince the people on the site - which, unlike me, are actual Rabbis or Yeshiva students - are pretty intellcutally honest. I once asked them about a Jewish law that I found out about and I thought sounded really horrible. I went on this website in order to see if there's any excuse for such a thing, or another way to interpent it to make it look better. I didn't get any. They were honest, said that that law does exist and it means exactly what I think it means, and that's just the way it is. No sugar coating. If your supposed 6M-predictory text have actual merit, they won't hide it from you.

I guess that you won't do anything that I've suggested, therfore I promise that on day I'll ask them about the matter myself. But not today.

That'd be all. I have nothing else that I know of to add.
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Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:VFX, if you have any questions regarding the matter I highly suggest you ask them on here.
https://judaism.stackexchange.com/
. If your supposed 6M-predictory text have actual merit, they won't hide it from you.

I guess that you won't do anything that I've suggested, therfore I promise that on day I'll ask them about the matter myself. But not today.

That'd be all. I have nothing else that I know of to add.
Thank you for the link. It is assumed these are the experts on Judaism who of course are biased, just like the Pope is biased or the Archbishop of Canterbury is biased. Even you must realize that if the 6 million figure has been bandied around in order to get money for whatever reason, real or otherwise, it is very suspicious that the exact figure is once again publicly used to promulgate the alleged Shoah.
There is no hurry, I look forward to your valued contribution. Good discussion, thank you. תודה על השיחה הגדולה.
דאַנקען פֿאַר די גרויס שמועס. :D :) :)
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:laff: Someone seen the mod online. :lol:
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VFX wrote:
Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:VFX, if you have any questions regarding the matter I highly suggest you ask them on here.
https://judaism.stackexchange.com/
. If your supposed 6M-predictory text have actual merit, they won't hide it from you.

I guess that you won't do anything that I've suggested, therfore I promise that on day I'll ask them about the matter myself. But not today.

That'd be all. I have nothing else that I know of to add.
Thank you for the link. It is assumed these are the experts on Judaism who of course are biased, just like the Pope is biased or the Archbishop of Canterbury is biased. Even you must realize that if the 6 million figure has been bandied around in order to get money for whatever reason, real or otherwise, it is very suspicious that the exact figure is once again publicly used to promulgate the alleged Shoah.
There is no hurry, I look forward to your valued contribution. Good discussion, thank you. תודה על השיחה הגדולה.
דאַנקען פֿאַר די גרויס שמועס. :D :) :)
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Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:
Jeffk 1970 wrote:
montgomery wrote:
Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote: 7 is a holy number in Judaism. So are 13, 18 and 40. Not only 6 million is not a holy of significant number in Jewish culture - ANCIENT HEBREW DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A WORD FOR "MILLION" IN IT.
WHHHAAAATTTTTT??

With friends like you, the Holocaust Promotion crew don't need any enemies! Now you're taking this whole thing back to the grade school level of lampshades!

Numbnuts better have a private father to son with you pretty soon!
Can you speak or read ancient Hebrew?
He only knows the version where "Goyim" translates to "cattle".

Yup. Looks like he doesn’t want to answer my question so I’ll conclude the answer is no.
No, I won't. Because ancient hebrew has nothing much to do with a hesitation to use some particular numbers. This was an example of a crank doing his best to invent more nonsense and lies. In this case nonsensical lies with no purpose. It's you that has to try to rein in your loose cannons sport. I'm going to make hay with that kind of fool every time one of them opens his/her cakehole.

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Post by Im_Not_Creative_Enough » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:28 am

montgomery wrote:
Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:
Jeffk 1970 wrote:
montgomery wrote:
Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote: 7 is a holy number in Judaism. So are 13, 18 and 40. Not only 6 million is not a holy of significant number in Jewish culture - ANCIENT HEBREW DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A WORD FOR "MILLION" IN IT.
WHHHAAAATTTTTT??

With friends like you, the Holocaust Promotion crew don't need any enemies! Now you're taking this whole thing back to the grade school level of lampshades!

Numbnuts better have a private father to son with you pretty soon!
Can you speak or read ancient Hebrew?
He only knows the version where "Goyim" translates to "cattle".

Yup. Looks like he doesn’t want to answer my question so I’ll conclude the answer is no.
No, I won't. Because ancient hebrew has nothing much to do with a hesitation to use some particular numbers. This was an example of a crank doing his best to invent more nonsense and lies. In this case nonsensical lies with no purpose. It's you that has to try to rein in your loose cannons sport. I'm going to make hay with that kind of fool every time one of them opens his/her cakehole.
Tell me exactly what part of what I said is a "nonesensical lie"?
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Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:
Tell me exactly what part of what I said is a "nonesensical lie"?
I am not sure what Monty is on about here. Nothing you have said is nonsensical but worthy of reflection. I am atheist so find it hard to understand how people can accept any religion based on myth. This forum is not an atheist forum, nor should anyone have to justify their beliefs or political affiliations. I would like to know if there is a potential solution to the Palestinian situation.
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Tell me exactly what part of what I said is a "nonesensical lie"?
I am not sure what Monty is on about here. Nothing you have said is nonsensical but worthy of reflection. I am atheist so find it hard to understand how people can accept any religion based on myth. This forum is not an atheist forum, nor should anyone have to justify their beliefs or political affiliations. I would like to know if there is a potential solution to the Palestinian situation.
I am not big on religion myself (although not a complete atheist) by I at least know SOMETHING about the religion og my people and don't try to claim that I know someone else's religion better than he does, unlike some people.

In my book there are six solutions to the Palestine situation:
A. An ideal fantasy solution
B. An slightly less ideal fantasy solution
C. A horrible solution
D. An even more horrible solution
E. A good, yet unpractical sultion
F. Leave things the way they are
The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.

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Re: Is Holocaust Denial really dead ?

Post by VFX » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:59 pm

There are other reasons why "denial or revisonism" exists apart from the obvious fact that the revisionists wish for the truth.
Much of revisionism could be due to some of the rather bizarre stories of what the terrible Nazis did to them poor people. Of course they could all be true but in the meantime I will hold judgement. Here are a few ones: I'll keep adding more for interest.
Jews claim they were genocided at Auschwitz by rail cars that dumped people directly into the ovens
Auschwitz-Birkenau, by the United States (Jewish) War Refugee Board in 1945: source
"800 to 900 yards from the place where the ovens were, the prisoners were squeezed into little cars that ran on rails. In Auschwitz these cars had various dimensions and could hold up to 15 people. As soon as a car was loaded, it would be set in motion on an inclined plane that traveled at full speed down a corridor. At the end of the corridor there was a wall, and in the wall was the door to the oven. As soon as the car hit the wall, the door opened automatically, and the car would dip forward and pitch its cargo of living people into the oven. Right behind it came another car, and so on."
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Soviet Prosecutors Attempted to Convict the Germans of the Katyn Forest Massacre
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"According to the estimates of medico-legal experts, the total number of bodies amounts to over 11,000. The medico-legal experts carried out a thorough examination of the bodies exhumed, and of the documents and material evidence found on the bodies and in the graves. During the exhumation and examination of the corpses, the commission questioned many witnesses among the local inhabitants. Their testimony permitted the determination of the exact time and circumstances of the crimes committed by the German invaders."

In the autumn of 1941, in Katyn Forest, the German occupational authorities carried out mass shootings of the Polish prisoners of war from the above-mentioned camps.

Mass shootings of Polish prisoners of war in Katyn Forest were carried out by German military organizations disguised under the specific name, 'Staff537, Engineer Construction Battalion,' commanded by Oberleutnant Arnes and his colleagues, Oberleutnant Rex and Leutnant Hott.

Of course we would be arguing this here with Nessie and the bookboy if the Soviets did not admit that they lied and they did it.
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"The factory of death covered an area of ​​about seven kilometers in diameter, and this area was protected by barbed wire and other protective measures, and no person could approach it, no person could leave the area. of Jews entered a tunnel in the underground rooms of the execution factory, and everything was taken away ... personal objects were sorted in order, inventoried and used for the needs of the superior race. "

"Naked Jews were brought into gigantic rooms, several thousand people at a time could be tossed into these rooms, without windows, and the floor was made of a metal plate that was submersible. rooms, with their thousands of Jews, sank into a basin of water beneath-but only to the extent that people were not entirely under water.When all the Jews on the metal floor had water on their thighs , passed an electric current through the water . "

"After a few moments, all the Jews, thousands at a time, were dead." Then the metal floor was lifted up out of the water, and the bodies of the executed victims were stretched out, and the metal floor turned into a crematory furnace, incandescent, so that all bodies burned to ashes . "Gigantic cranes immediately lifted this immense urn and discharged the ashes.

"The next train was already waiting with more Jews at the entrance to the tunnel, each carrying between three and five thousand Jews, and sometimes more.There were days when the branch to Belzec had twenty or more trains. The problem of how to exterminate millions of people was solved . "

Here are some more rather strange claims. source
  1. In addition to killing Jews in homicidal gas chambers, the Germans at Nuremberg were accused of:
  2. –building special electrical appliances to zap inmates to death with mass electrical shocks;
  3. –killing 20,000 Jews in a village near Auschwitz with an atomic bomb;
  4. –forcing prisoners to climb trees and then killing the prisoners by cutting down the trees;
  5. –killing 840,000 Russian prisoners at the Sachsenhausen concentration camp using a pedal-driven brain-bashing machine, and then burning the bodies in four mobile crematories;
  6. –torturing and executing people at the Yanov camp in Russia in time to music created by a special orchestra selected from among the prisoners, and then shooting every member of the orchestra;
  7. —grinding the bones of 200 people at one time as described in documents and photographs that have disappeared;
  8. —making lampshades, handbags, driving gloves for SS officers, book bindings, saddles, house slippers, etc. out of human skin;
  9. –killing prisoners and concentration camp inmates for everything from having soiled underwear to having armpit hair; and
  10. —steaming people to death like lobsters in steam chambers at Treblinka.
After this incredible survey of Nuremberg atrocity evidence, Carlos Porter provides numerous examples of improper prosecution tactics at Nuremberg. The defendants at Nuremberg were rarely able to confront their accusers, since affidavits from witnesses who had been deposed months before sufficed. The prosecution made it difficult for the defense lawyers to have timely access to the documents introduced into evidence by the prosecution. Also, photocopies and transcripts were usually submitted into evidence instead of the original German documents, which in many cases seemed to have disappeared. Finally, the defense had access only to those documents which the prosecution considered material to the case. The defense had no right to review the tons of remaining documents that might help them defend their clients.
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Re: Is Holocaust Denial really dead ?

Post by montgomery » Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:17 pm

VFX wrote:There are other reasons why "denial or revisonism" exists apart from the obvious fact that the revisionists wish for the truth.
Much of revisionism could be due to some of the rather bizarre stories of what the terrible Nazis did to them poor people. Of course they could all be true but in the meantime I will hold judgement. Here are a few ones: I'll keep adding more for interest.
Jews claim they were genocided at Auschwitz by rail cars that dumped people directly into the ovens
Auschwitz-Birkenau, by the United States (Jewish) War Refugee Board in 1945: source
"800 to 900 yards from the place where the ovens were, the prisoners were squeezed into little cars that ran on rails. In Auschwitz these cars had various dimensions and could hold up to 15 people. As soon as a car was loaded, it would be set in motion on an inclined plane that traveled at full speed down a corridor. At the end of the corridor there was a wall, and in the wall was the door to the oven. As soon as the car hit the wall, the door opened automatically, and the car would dip forward and pitch its cargo of living people into the oven. Right behind it came another car, and so on."
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Soviet Prosecutors Attempted to Convict the Germans of the Katyn Forest Massacre
source
"According to the estimates of medico-legal experts, the total number of bodies amounts to over 11,000. The medico-legal experts carried out a thorough examination of the bodies exhumed, and of the documents and material evidence found on the bodies and in the graves. During the exhumation and examination of the corpses, the commission questioned many witnesses among the local inhabitants. Their testimony permitted the determination of the exact time and circumstances of the crimes committed by the German invaders."

In the autumn of 1941, in Katyn Forest, the German occupational authorities carried out mass shootings of the Polish prisoners of war from the above-mentioned camps.

Mass shootings of Polish prisoners of war in Katyn Forest were carried out by German military organizations disguised under the specific name, 'Staff537, Engineer Construction Battalion,' commanded by Oberleutnant Arnes and his colleagues, Oberleutnant Rex and Leutnant Hott.

Of course we would be arguing this here with Nessie and the bookboy if the Soviets did not admit that they lied and they did it.
The Promise Hitler Kept...Stefan Szende
Book Review

Taken from pages 290 et seq. Of " The Promise Hitler Kept

"The factory of death covered an area of ​​about seven kilometers in diameter, and this area was protected by barbed wire and other protective measures, and no person could approach it, no person could leave the area. of Jews entered a tunnel in the underground rooms of the execution factory, and everything was taken away ... personal objects were sorted in order, inventoried and used for the needs of the superior race. "

"Naked Jews were brought into gigantic rooms, several thousand people at a time could be tossed into these rooms, without windows, and the floor was made of a metal plate that was submersible. rooms, with their thousands of Jews, sank into a basin of water beneath-but only to the extent that people were not entirely under water.When all the Jews on the metal floor had water on their thighs , passed an electric current through the water . "

"After a few moments, all the Jews, thousands at a time, were dead." Then the metal floor was lifted up out of the water, and the bodies of the executed victims were stretched out, and the metal floor turned into a crematory furnace, incandescent, so that all bodies burned to ashes . "Gigantic cranes immediately lifted this immense urn and discharged the ashes.

"The next train was already waiting with more Jews at the entrance to the tunnel, each carrying between three and five thousand Jews, and sometimes more.There were days when the branch to Belzec had twenty or more trains. The problem of how to exterminate millions of people was solved . "

Here are some more rather strange claims. source
  1. In addition to killing Jews in homicidal gas chambers, the Germans at Nuremberg were accused of:
  2. –building special electrical appliances to zap inmates to death with mass electrical shocks;
  3. –killing 20,000 Jews in a village near Auschwitz with an atomic bomb;
  4. –forcing prisoners to climb trees and then killing the prisoners by cutting down the trees;
  5. –killing 840,000 Russian prisoners at the Sachsenhausen concentration camp using a pedal-driven brain-bashing machine, and then burning the bodies in four mobile crematories;
  6. –torturing and executing people at the Yanov camp in Russia in time to music created by a special orchestra selected from among the prisoners, and then shooting every member of the orchestra;
  7. —grinding the bones of 200 people at one time as described in documents and photographs that have disappeared;
  8. —making lampshades, handbags, driving gloves for SS officers, book bindings, saddles, house slippers, etc. out of human skin;
  9. –killing prisoners and concentration camp inmates for everything from having soiled underwear to having armpit hair; and
  10. —steaming people to death like lobsters in steam chambers at Treblinka.
After this incredible survey of Nuremberg atrocity evidence, Carlos Porter provides numerous examples of improper prosecution tactics at Nuremberg. The defendants at Nuremberg were rarely able to confront their accusers, since affidavits from witnesses who had been deposed months before sufficed. The prosecution made it difficult for the defense lawyers to have timely access to the documents introduced into evidence by the prosecution. Also, photocopies and transcripts were usually submitted into evidence instead of the original German documents, which in many cases seemed to have disappeared. Finally, the defense had access only to those documents which the prosecution considered material to the case. The defense had no right to review the tons of remaining documents that might help them defend their clients.
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Good reading material and like you say, you didn't rule out any of the Nazi's methods.
I'm somewhat skeptical on this one though:
–killing 840,000 Russian prisoners at the Sachsenhausen concentration camp using a pedal-driven brain-bashing machine, and then burning the bodies in four mobile crematories;
Amd then the atomic bomb one is a little troubling?

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Re: Is Holocaust Denial really dead ?

Post by Im_Not_Creative_Enough » Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:23 am

VFX wrote:
  1. In addition to killing Jews in homicidal gas chambers, the Germans at Nuremberg were accused of:
  2. –building special electrical appliances to zap inmates to death with mass electrical shocks;
  3. –killing 20,000 Jews in a village near Auschwitz with an atomic bomb;
  4. –forcing prisoners to climb trees and then killing the prisoners by cutting down the trees;
  5. –killing 840,000 Russian prisoners at the Sachsenhausen concentration camp using a pedal-driven brain-bashing machine, and then burning the bodies in four mobile crematories;
  6. –torturing and executing people at the Yanov camp in Russia in time to music created by a special orchestra selected from among the prisoners, and then shooting every member of the orchestra;
  7. —grinding the bones of 200 people at one time as described in documents and photographs that have disappeared;
  8. —making lampshades, handbags, driving gloves for SS officers, book bindings, saddles, house slippers, etc. out of human skin;
  9. –killing prisoners and concentration camp inmates for everything from having soiled underwear to having armpit hair; and
  10. —steaming people to death like lobsters in steam chambers at Treblinka.
After this incredible survey of Nuremberg atrocity evidence, Carlos Porter provides numerous examples of improper prosecution tactics at Nuremberg. The defendants at Nuremberg were rarely able to confront their accusers, since affidavits from witnesses who had been deposed months before sufficed. The prosecution made it difficult for the defense lawyers to have timely access to the documents introduced into evidence by the prosecution. Also, photocopies and transcripts were usually submitted into evidence instead of the original German documents, which in many cases seemed to have disappeared. Finally, the defense had access only to those documents which the prosecution considered material to the case. The defense had no right to review the tons of remaining documents that might help them defend their clients.
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Question is - have you seen an instence where e respected majnstream holocaust historian accepted any of that? Are you aware that bloody Yad Vashem alreay called the soap and lampshades thing "a myth" decades ago?
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Re: Is Holocaust Denial really dead ?

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Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:
Question is - have you seen an instence where e respected majnstream holocaust historian accepted any of that? Are you aware that bloody Yad Vashem alreay called the soap and lampshades thing "a myth" decades ago?
Historians are also bound by propaganda: those who are not are shunned as Mr Irving found out. Yes some have discounted some of the myths, but there are still many more to go. This is why we are discussing these important issues. The lies of the past are still the lies of the future.
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Post by Im_Not_Creative_Enough » Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:40 am

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Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:
Question is - have you seen an instence where e respected majnstream holocaust historian accepted any of that? Are you aware that bloody Yad Vashem alreay called the soap and lampshades thing "a myth" decades ago?
Historians are also bound by propaganda: those who are not are shunned as Mr Irving found out. Yes some have discounted some of the myths, but there are still many more to go. This is why we are discussing these important issues. The lies of the past are still the lies of the future.
This is exactly an example of you not knowing the difference between common-people's sayungs and actual historigraphy. They aren't the same. The claims about the Holocaust that ARE, INDEED, RIDICOLOUS - historians reject as well, without anyone going to jail for it...
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Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:
This is exactly an example of you not knowing the difference between common-people's sayungs and actual historigraphy. They aren't the same. The claims about the Holocaust that ARE, INDEED, RIDICOLOUS - historians reject as well, without anyone going to jail for it...
The common people are politics, the mob: every Roman Emperor as well as the Tsar of Russia found this out. Of course those allegations I put in are ridiculous and so is the rest. However the soap and lampshade myth was believed worldwide for years and so the damage has been done. Most people do not think about the alleged Shoah everyday and so once accepted they think no more about it.
The problem with the Shoah is it does denigrate Jude to scheming people as portrayed by the Bard in the Merchant of Venice. It is this perception I am also fighting to be inclusive of all people and accept diversity. This is what we stand for.
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Post by Im_Not_Creative_Enough » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:01 am

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Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:
This is exactly an example of you not knowing the difference between common-people's sayungs and actual historigraphy. They aren't the same. The claims about the Holocaust that ARE, INDEED, RIDICOLOUS - historians reject as well, without anyone going to jail for it...
The common people are politics, the mob: every Roman Emperor as well as the Tsar of Russia found this out. Of course those allegations I put in are ridiculous and so is the rest. However the soap and lampshade myth was believed worldwide for years and so the damage has been done. Most people do not think about the alleged Shoah everyday and so once accepted they think no more about it.
The problem with the Shoah is it does denigrate Jude to scheming people as portrayed by the Bard in the Merchant of Venice. It is this perception I am also fighting to be inclusive of all people and accept diversity. This is what we stand for.
Nope. What is ridicolous is ridocolous. What isn't ridicolous - isn't.
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Nope. What is ridicolous is ridocolous. What isn't ridicolous - isn't.
Well just as I thought I was having an intelligent conversation with a son of Abraham I get this. Lucky many Jude are in the organization.
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Post by Im_Not_Creative_Enough » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:09 am

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Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:
Nope. What is ridicolous is ridocolous. What isn't ridicolous - isn't.
Well just as I thought I was having an intelligent conversation with a son of Abraham I get this. Lucky many Jude are in the organization.
VFX logic -" anyone who does not 100% agree with me is stupid". 'Kay.

But the way, if I'm part of the organization how come my bank account is so lame? :((((((((
Ohhhh maybe it's because salaries aren't raised ubtil you pass the initiation ceremony which involves drinking Goyim blood. Would you mind helping me with that, Mizdayen?
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VFX logic -" anyone who does not 100% agree with me is stupid". 'Kay.

Not once did I call you stupid, in fact I originally had the opposite view. I was not talking about your organization it is ours who many Jude belong: they accept the truth.
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Post by Im_Not_Creative_Enough » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:20 am

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Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:
VFX logic -" anyone who does not 100% agree with me is stupid". 'Kay.

Not once did I call you stupid, in fact I originally had the opposite view. I was not talking about your organization it is ours who many Jude belong: they accept the truth.
When you say that you ORIGINALLY thought that I'm not stupid, which you say is an OPPOSITE opinion to what you now have, what does it mean???

You liked me when you thought I am willing to bow down to your distructuve treachery and your vile lies. And than you found out that I can't be turned like that, and now you are dissapointed.
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You liked me when you thought I am willing to bow down to your distructuve treachery and your vile lies. And than you found out that I can't be turned like that, and now you are dissapointed.
I cannot see how my opinion of you contributes to the forum intention: that is irrelevant. I cannot see how posting information on the Web which was presented at Nuremberg are vile lies, as you put it but information for your perusal.
No one would wish to turn you so to speak as you would not be of much use really due to lack of coherent thinking patterns. How could some one turn anyone that is already a rotisserie?
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Post by Im_Not_Creative_Enough » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:30 am

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Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:
You liked me when you thought I am willing to bow down to your distructuve treachery and your vile lies. And than you found out that I can't be turned like that, and now you are dissapointed.
I cannot see how my opinion of you contributes to the forum intention: that is irrelevant. I cannot see how posting information on the Web which put at Nuremberg is vile lies as you put it but information for your perusal.
No one would wish to turn you so to speak as you would not be of much use really due to lack of coherent thinking patterns.
The nurembrg quotes themselves aren't the lie on your part, the lie is your argument that those are accepted as part of the "Offical Narrative". They aren't. At least when you attempt to refure gas chambers you at the very least attdmpt to refute stuff that historighraphers actually claim. But what is the point of pointeing out ridicolous claims that even mainsteam historians don't accept?
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Post by Im_Not_Creative_Enough » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:33 am

VFX wrote:
Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:
You liked me when you thought I am willing to bow down to your distructuve treachery and your vile lies. And than you found out that I can't be turned like that, and now you are dissapointed.
I cannot see how my opinion of you contributes to the forum intention: that is irrelevant. I cannot see how posting information on the Web which was presented at Nuremberg are vile lies, as you put it but information for your perusal.
No one would wish to turn you so to speak as you would not be of much use really due to lack of coherent thinking patterns. How could some one turn anyone that is already a rotisserie?
Once again, VFX logic that is only real in your mind (see what I did there????):
Agrees with VFX = coherent thinking patterns
Does not agree with VFX = lacks coherent thinking patterns.
How convenient...
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Post by VFX » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:37 am

This is correct, the official historiographers are bound by rules of convention and cannot or not allowed to see outside the box: to do so is "thought crime" as put so nicely in the novel 1984. I do not attempt to refute gas chambers I do not except that they were only used in the Unites States. The alleged leichenkellers in Poland as gas chambers would not work on technical grounds; this is well covered, so we know the truth of that. The point of showing stupid claims is to show that the people presenting evidence to the NMT were not credible and neither were the NMT.
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Post by Denying-History » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:39 am

Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:
VFX wrote:
Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:
You liked me when you thought I am willing to bow down to your distructuve treachery and your vile lies. And than you found out that I can't be turned like that, and now you are dissapointed.
I cannot see how my opinion of you contributes to the forum intention: that is irrelevant. I cannot see how posting information on the Web which was presented at Nuremberg are vile lies, as you put it but information for your perusal.
No one would wish to turn you so to speak as you would not be of much use really due to lack of coherent thinking patterns. How could some one turn anyone that is already a rotisserie?
Once again, VFX logic that is only real in your mind (see what I did there????):
Agrees with VFX = coherent thinking patterns
Does not agree with VFX = lacks coherent thinking patterns.
How convenient...
Best to not to continue giving him the attention. But continue if you like.
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Denying-History wrote:
Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:
VFX wrote:
Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:
You liked me when you thought I am willing to bow down to your distructuve treachery and your vile lies. And than you found out that I can't be turned like that, and now you are dissapointed.
I cannot see how my opinion of you contributes to the forum intention: that is irrelevant. I cannot see how posting information on the Web which was presented at Nuremberg are vile lies, as you put it but information for your perusal.
No one would wish to turn you so to speak as you would not be of much use really due to lack of coherent thinking patterns. How could some one turn anyone that is already a rotisserie?
Once again, VFX logic that is only real in your mind (see what I did there????):
Agrees with VFX = coherent thinking patterns
Does not agree with VFX = lacks coherent thinking patterns.
How convenient...
Best to not to continue giving him the attention. But continue if you like.
S/he's a denier, INCE. Nothing surprising, nothing new in that kind of behavior. Only the strong ones ask honestly, only strong ones will question even their own biases.
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Re: Is Holocaust Denial really dead ?

Post by Im_Not_Creative_Enough » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:44 am

Denying-History wrote:
Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:
VFX wrote:
Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:
You liked me when you thought I am willing to bow down to your distructuve treachery and your vile lies. And than you found out that I can't be turned like that, and now you are dissapointed.
I cannot see how my opinion of you contributes to the forum intention: that is irrelevant. I cannot see how posting information on the Web which was presented at Nuremberg are vile lies, as you put it but information for your perusal.
No one would wish to turn you so to speak as you would not be of much use really due to lack of coherent thinking patterns. How could some one turn anyone that is already a rotisserie?
Once again, VFX logic that is only real in your mind (see what I did there????):
Agrees with VFX = coherent thinking patterns
Does not agree with VFX = lacks coherent thinking patterns.
How convenient...
Best to not to continue giving him the attention. But continue if you like.
You see, the problem with using a "don't feed" tactic with them peoples is that it only makes them more confident in themselves. Syop explaining to them why they are wrong, and they'll think you did it because you are out of argument which in this case makes them "victorious".
The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.

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Re: Is Holocaust Denial really dead ?

Post by scrmbldggs » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:47 am

Nah, they know they already lost the argument before it even started. They just love to keep going, it makes them feel important. And stoking their hatred invigorates them...
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Lard, save me from your followers.

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