TaShuVU Prophecy - You Shall Return To Israel Minus Six Million!

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TaShuVU Prophecy - You Shall Return To Israel Minus Six Million!

Postby Aaron Richards » Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:08 pm

aka Rabbi Benjamin Blech's post-war prophetic numerology game

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Deniers often claim that 6 million is some kind of a holy number in Judaism, either from the Talmud or Kabbalah, and that's why it kept occurring in all the pre-war newspapers (discussed here: imgur.com/Ef0XTcM and imgur.com/wEOP8gw) and that that's why it also became the Jewish death toll of the holocaust, i.e. they make the claim that from a historiographic standpoint, it is worthless and only has religious significance. Well, let's just say that if you go and ask any Jew, Israeli, or anyone who knows Hebrew the question whether six million is a symbolic number in Judaism, well, they will tell you: No. 7 is a holy number in Judaism. 13 is a symbolic number. 40 is a symbolic number. But six million? Heck, there isn't even a word for "million" in Hebrew!!!!! If you want to write "six million" with only Hebrew words and translate the result back to English it would be something like "six hundred-ten thousands".

But holocaust deniers assure us, that THEY didn't make any of this up. They got it from a well-known and respected JEWISH RABBI! Are we to doubt the word of a Jewish scholar? Wouldn't that be antisemitic? You see how deniers operate - they want to shift the blame onto Jews themselves: the TASHUVU / You Shall Return prophecy. Except this one doesn't talk about the holocaust, but is a lone man's a posteriori interpretation of a religious verse, that is to say, he made this {!#%@} up AFTER the war.

see google books: https://bit.ly/2HgJV7I

And indeed, it is true - the above passage comes from the above pictured book. So where did Rabbi Benjamin Blech get his prophecy from? The Liberty Bell, an iconic symbol of American independence located in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, contains an inscription IN ENGLISH which is the first half of Leviticus 25:10. Rabbi Benjamin Blech (whose writings about what follows has been repeated in a book called "The Holocaust Dogma of Judaism" by a certain Ben Weintraub, probably a pen name of the book's publisher Robert L. Brock[1]) starts babbling on pages 214 and 215 of his book "The Secrets of Hebrew Words", that, because in the second half of Lev 25:10, "ye shall return" in Hebrew is spelled incorrectly (where? certainly not on the Liberty Bell where the inscription is in English!), with the same kind of mind-bending "logic" used by people who talk about a "Bible code" and other numerology BS like "9+1+1 = 11 = shape of the twin towers = therefore 9/11", that it is missing a letter that also stands for the number six, which in turn he magically interprets as the number six MILLION, and therefore claims we have a prophecy where the second half of Lev 25:10 not inscribed on the Liberty Bell, but saying "ye shall return every man unto his possession and ye shall return every man unto his family" (KJV), which actually talks about the eventual end of slavery, is somehow actually talking about Jews returning to Israel in 1948 minus six million because "ye shall return" is misspelled somewhere and what's missing is a vav which stands for six. What a load of dangerous nonsense.

Dangerous, because first of all, Rabbi Benjamin Blech isn't just "some dude", but has been ranked #16 in a list of the 50 most influential Jews in America[2] and secondly, because figures of authority such as this spouting nonsense leads to other morons repeating it, such as Rabbi Zev Brenner[3], president and CEO of Talkline Communications Network, a Jewish radio and TV network. If you've got BIG JEWS unironically spreading such prophetic claims (and little Jews such as Rabbi Solomon Cohen on his website[4]), I can't even feel bad if deniers pick it up and start spreading it even more. The only problem is that deniers like to pretend it is some kind of already existing pre-war prophecy somewhere in Jewish Scripture, and therefore explains the pre-war use of the 6 million figure in newspapers. Which has been thoroughly debunked here: imgur.com/Ef0XTcM and imgur.com/wEOP8gw as deniers cherry-picking newspaper articles from a pool of various estimates regarding the pre-war Jewish populations including 3, 4, 5 and 7 made by journalists who typed those articles.

The German denier debunking website Holocaust Referenz has also written an article about this:
http://www.h-ref.de/literatur/w/weintra ... -dogma.php

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[1]: https://www.amazon.com/Holocaust-Dogma- ... 0972416005
[2]: https://web.archive.org/web/20060215100 ... com/bblech
[3]: http://jewishweek.timesofisrael.com/the-joy-of-six/
[4]: https://ourjewishagenda.weebly.com/the-shoah.html
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Re: TaShuVU Prophecy - You Shall Return To Israel Minus Six Million!

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:22 pm

It’s also worth noting that there are multiple estimates for the dead, some closer to the “six million” and some not.

The WJC:

https://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlestop/study_collections/nuremberg/documents/index.php?documentid=C107-6-1&pagenumber=3
‘I have not left anybody in the dark about the fact that this time, millions of adult men would not die, and hundreds of thousands of women and children would not be burnt or bombed to death in the cities, without the actual culprit, albeit by more humane means, having to pay for his guilt.’
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Postby BRoI » Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:06 pm

Aaron Richards wrote:Deniers often claim that 6 million is some kind of a holy number in Judaism, either from the Talmud or Kabbalah ... Heck, there isn't even a word for "million" in Hebrew!!!!!


Are there words for "million" in the various forms of Aramaic the B. & J. Talmuds and Zohar were predominately written in?
"I believe that when the history of the [Great] war comes to be impartially written, the two greatest results will be the establishment of the national Jewish home and the creation of the League of Nations. The two are not really disconnected. They represent the two great ideas for which we fought and by which we conquered—the ideas of nationalism and internationalism."
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Re: TaShuVU Prophecy - You Shall Return To Israel Minus Six Million!

Postby nickterry » Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:20 pm

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Aaron Richards wrote:Deniers often claim that 6 million is some kind of a holy number in Judaism, either from the Talmud or Kabbalah ... Heck, there isn't even a word for "million" in Hebrew!!!!!


Are there words for "million" in the various forms of Aramaic the B. & J. Talmuds and Zohar were predominately written in?


Doubtful. The word 'million' doesn't seem to have caught on much before the 13th-14th Centuries in Europe - based on a skim of first page google search results.

Modern Hebrew does use 'miliyon' as a loanword, like many other languages (German, Dutch, Russian, Polish, etc)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_numerals

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Re: TaShuVU Prophecy - You Shall Return To Israel Minus Six Million!

Postby BRoI » Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:53 pm

I wasn't expecting a serious answer.

There are six figure numbers in English translations of the Old Testament, and B. Talmud [it features nine figure numbers IIRC].

Whether or not there were words for "million[s]" in the ancient or medieval languages the Talmud and Zohar were written isn't anywhere close to being decisive on this particular point, as Aaron has insisted.

If an ancient text says, for example, *there were 10 x 100,000 donkeys*, that could acceptably be rendered as "a million donkeys* in modern-era translation.
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Postby Jeffk 1970 » Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:05 pm

We’re serious people, Rabbit.
‘I have not left anybody in the dark about the fact that this time, millions of adult men would not die, and hundreds of thousands of women and children would not be burnt or bombed to death in the cities, without the actual culprit, albeit by more humane means, having to pay for his guilt.’
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Postby BRoI » Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:29 pm

This is called "the purple earth." It shines with every kind of light that proceeds from hashmal. In this earth are sunk twelve thousand myriads of pearls, sunk in this earth and reaching as far as the eastern gate. There there are six million open gates, and Anael is the chief guardian of them.


This is a quote from the New Zohar [original: Aramaic] as it appears in the English translation of Isaiah Tishby's Hebrew-language study.
"I believe that when the history of the [Great] war comes to be impartially written, the two greatest results will be the establishment of the national Jewish home and the creation of the League of Nations. The two are not really disconnected. They represent the two great ideas for which we fought and by which we conquered—the ideas of nationalism and internationalism."
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Postby Gord » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:02 am

nickterry wrote:
BRoI wrote:
Aaron Richards wrote:Deniers often claim that 6 million is some kind of a holy number in Judaism, either from the Talmud or Kabbalah ... Heck, there isn't even a word for "million" in Hebrew!!!!!

Are there words for "million" in the various forms of Aramaic the B. & J. Talmuds and Zohar were predominately written in?

Doubtful. The word 'million' doesn't seem to have caught on much before the 13th-14th Centuries in Europe - based on a skim of first page google search results.

According to etymology online: https://www.etymonline.com/word/million

million (n.)

late 14c., from Old French million (late 13c.), from Italian millione (now milione), literally "a great thousand," augmentative of mille "thousand," from Latin mille, which is of uncertain origin. Used mainly by mathematicians until 16c. India, with its love of large numbers, had names before 3c. for numbers well beyond a billion. The ancient Greeks had no name for a number greater than ten thousand, the Romans for none higher than a hundred thousand. "A million" in Latin would have been decies centena milia, literally "ten hundred thousand."...

I don't know about Aramaic, though.
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Postby Balmoral95 » Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:22 am

Jeffk 1970 wrote:We’re serious people, Rabbit.


We are?

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Balmoral95 wrote:
Jeffk 1970 wrote:We’re serious people, Rabbit.


We are?



Sshhh, don't blow it with the Rabbit!!!!!
‘I have not left anybody in the dark about the fact that this time, millions of adult men would not die, and hundreds of thousands of women and children would not be burnt or bombed to death in the cities, without the actual culprit, albeit by more humane means, having to pay for his guilt.’
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Postby Sergey_Romanov » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:18 am

http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot. ... tholocaust

"There is no special significance to the "6 million number". Some nutjobs, like the "Birdman Bryant", refer to some alleged mystical Jewish literature (actually relying not on primary sources but on a pseudonymous neo-Nazi) that allegedly says that the Torah predicts 6 million Jews. Even if there is such literature, it's postwar, so those are not predictions but postdictions (like the so-called "Torah Codes"). They therefore don't prove any alleged religious significance of the 6 million number in the pre-war Judaism (not that such a significance would be in any way relevant to the established historical facts)."

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Postby BRoI » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:55 pm

More of Rabbi Benjamin Blech views, from a webpage that's 17+ years old:

"This article is based on a lecture given by Rabbi Benjamin Blech, world renowned lecturer
and author of the recently published The Idiot's Guide to Jewish History and Culture."



The beginning of this week's first Torah portion discusses the various laws regarding the Yovel (Jubilee) year, the year in which land in Israel reverts back to its original owner. The verse describes the events in the Yovel year as follows: "In the Jubilee year you shall return each man to his ancestral heritage" (Leviticus 25:13). The Hebrew word for "return" used in the above verse is "tashuvu." Usually spelled with the Hebrew letters tav, shin, vav, vet, vav, this time it appears in its shortened form, without the first vav.

The Zohar, the basic work of Kabbalah, viewed this verse as a prophetic sign. Since it speaks about the land of Israel being returned to its rightful owners, the Zohar understood this verse to mean when the land of Israel was returned to the Jewish people as a nation. As we know from history, this finally occurred in the year 1948, which corresponds to the year 5708 on the Jewish calendar. Remarkably, the numerical value of the word "tashuvu return" when it is written without the first vav as in the verse above is that same number 708 (the 5000 part of the year only tells us which millennium from creation we are talking about). The verse itself was telling us when we would return to our homeland. How amazing that the very verse which discusses the return of the land contains an actual reference to the historical event when Israel was returned to Jewish rule!

Let us take this idea one step further. The Midrash discusses the time of the arrival of the Mashiach (Messiah) and relates the following parable: There was once a father and son who were traveling together to a big city. The boy asked his father when they would be arriving. The father replied, "When you see the cemetery, you will know that we are close, for the cemetery is located on the outskirts of the city." This is true even today; most cemeteries are located just outside the city. What relevance does this story have to the arrival of the Mashiach? The Talmud explains that the city is compared to the Mashiach. Only once we have passed a cemetery in other words, a time of death on a massive scale will the arrival of the Mashiach be on the horizon. We have witnessed such a horrific massacre in the not-so-distant past with the Holocaust, the most systematic and cruel death machine in all of Jewish history.

Now let us bring back the missing letter vav from before. The letter vav, which numerically equals six, refers to the six million Jews whom we lost in the Holocaust. Now the word "tashuvu return" is more prophetic than ever. As the Talmud stated, there will only be a return to Israel once we have passed a cemetery. Well, we have certainly passed that cemetery the deaths of six million of our own and now we can rest assured that the arrival of the Mashiach is on the horizon.

https://web.archive.org/web/20000118140701/http://www.tfdixie.com/parshat/behar/005.htm
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Postby BRoI » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:08 pm

Rabbi Blech's views mentioned [and seemingly distorted] here:

The Joy Of Six
BY RABBI ZEV BRENNER May 16, 2017, 3:01 pm

The Jubilee year returns Jews to their land. “You shall return (tashuvu), every man to his possession, every man to his family” [Leviticus 25:10]. The Zohar notes that “tashuvu” is written defectively, missing the letter vav, hinting at our return and the reclaiming of sovereignty over the Land of Israel.

The Gematria (numerical value) of tashuvu is 708. Rabbi Benjamin Blech writes that tashuvu could also be understood as a year, (5)708, or 1948 in the secular calendar, the year marking Israel’s independence, “when we returned to the land of our forefathers.” Rabbi Blech notes that the missing vav (corresponding to the number six) perhaps alludes to the missing Six Million.

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Postby BRoI » Tue May 08, 2018 2:17 am

Rabbi Benjamin Blech wrote:"In the Jubilee year you shall return each man to his ancestral heritage" (Leviticus 25:13). The Hebrew word for "return" used in the above verse is "tashuvu." Usually spelled with the Hebrew letters tav, shin, vav, vet, vav, this time it appears in its shortened form, without the first vav.

The Zohar, the basic work of Kabbalah, viewed this verse as a prophetic sign. Since it speaks about the land of Israel being returned to its rightful owners, the Zohar understood this verse to mean when the land of Israel was returned to the Jewish people as a nation. As we know from history, this finally occurred in the year 1948, which corresponds to the year 5708 on the Jewish calendar. Remarkably, the numerical value of the word "tashuvu return" when it is written without the first vav as in the verse above is that same number 708 (the 5000 part of the year only tells us which millennium from creation we are talking about). The verse itself was telling us when we would return to our homeland. How amazing that the very verse which discusses the return of the land contains an actual reference to the historical event when Israel was returned to Jewish rule!


He's sort of right, but he's also wrong.

The Zohar did herald this verse as a prophetic sign, but the prophecy was hidden in a different word to the one Blech claims is special.

The Zohar I:139b claims Lev. 25:13, and Gen. 23:3, reveal 1648 as the year the messiah would resurrect the unrighteous dead. But foresaw the messiah reclaiming the Promised land in 1608, having raised the righteous dead way back in 1438.

Zohar I:139b cf. Scholem [1] wrote:
In the year 408 (1648) of the sixth millennium they that lie in the dust will arise. ... Scripture refers to them as the 'sons of Heth' [136] because they will wake in the year 408. As it is written (Lev. 25:13): 'In this year of jubilee ye shall return every man unto his possession'—at the end of *this* [137] year ye shall return every man to his possession, that is, to his soul which is his true possession and inheritance. [138]

136. The numerical value of the Hebrew letters of the word Ḥeth is 408.
137. Numerical value in Hebrew 5408.
138. Zohar I, 139b. The passage is found in the earliest MS. of the Zohar, and there is no reason for suspecting it—with Graetz—of being a later interpolation.


The scholar and Zionist Rabbi Silver [2] provides further details of Zohar I:139a-b:

The Zohar (c. 1290), the great textbook of medieval Kabbala, gives various Messianic dates, probably reflecting the age in which each successive part to the Zohar was written. [p.90]
[...]
The Midrash ha-Ne'elam[*] gives still another date [for the raising of the dead]. "In the sixth millennium. in the 408th year there of (1648 C.E.), all the dead will arise." He [the author] gives as his authority the Gematria of ת‬''ח the children of "Heth," [40] which is equal to 408, and that of זא"ת "this," which is equal to 408. "In this year of jubilee you shall return every man to his possession. [41] The Redemption will take place 40 years before the resurrection, i.e. in the year 1608 C.E. The righteous will be resurrected 210 years before all others, i.e. in 1438 C.E. [42]

40. Gen. 23.7.
41. Lev. 25.13.
42. פ׳ יצחק, pp. 139a-b. [p.92]

[* The oldest texts in the Zohar, written entirely in Hebrew, scattered among the later Aramaic texts in vols. 1 and 2 of the original Zohar, and the New Zohar.
I may have incorrectly transcribed the Hebrew text]


1. Gershom Scholem, Sabbatai Ṣevi: The Mystical Messiah, 1626–1676, 2016, p.88.
2. Abba Hillel Silver, A History of Messianic Speculation in Israel: From the First through the Seventeenth Centuries. Author, Abba Hillel Silver. Publisher, The Macmillan Co., 1927.

Absolutely nothing, not even the Torah refs., in the above quotes and details of the Zohar I:139a-b appears in either of the two English translations I possess.

Sperling & Simon, The Zohar: An English Translation:
Zohar I:139a-139b, vol.2, pp. 45-47.

Tishby, The Wisdom of the Zohar: An Anthology of Texts:
Zohar I:139b-140a, vol.3, pp. 1483-1487.
Zohar I:138a-139a, vol.2, pp. 789-792.
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Re: TaShuVU Prophecy - You Shall Return To Israel Minus Six Million!

Postby Balmoral95 » Tue May 08, 2018 2:32 am

So happy a Jew is interpreting this for our mutual edification.

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Postby BRoI » Tue May 08, 2018 5:41 am

Rev. 13:18 NIV wrote:... Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666.


In 1852, Englishman Maurice Cely Trevilian published a pamphlet in which he argued the passage and figure 666 are horrendous ministrations, the latter resulting in part from the limitations and abbreviations for expressing large numbers in Greek.

Trevilian argues the "mark" of the beast, not the number, is "six million".

He subsequently claims Napoleon III was the antichrist as both he, and his more famous uncle, had used the number 6,000,000 at various points. In 1858 he published a book on the matter.

An Examination of the Sign χξϚ Rev. xiii. 18 [1852].

Το Θηριον. A Dissertation on the History of the “Beast” [1858].
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