8 people packed into 0.3 Square Meters

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8 people packed into 0.3 Square Meters

Postby Aaron Richards » Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:33 am

My favorite ex-revisionist Charles D. Provan proved how you could cram 8 people into such a tiny amount of space without anyone asphyxiating or getting crushed. Of course, keep in mind they were all in-the-know and therefore calm and not panicking:

http://holocaust.skeptik.net/documents/ ... photos.htm

My question is, are there better images of Provan's experiment? These scans look awful in quality.
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Re: 8 people packed into 0.3 Square Meters

Postby Denying-History » Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:00 am

Sergey is the one you would want to ask, if some of my assumptions about the website are correct.
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Re: 8 people packed into 0.3 Square Meters

Postby Sergey_Romanov » Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:45 am

Provan is dead so it's unlikely.

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Re: 8 people packed into 0.3 Square Meters

Postby Gord » Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:30 pm

What about images from a Tokyo subway during rush hour?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7kor5nHtZQ
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Re: 8 people packed into 0.3 Square Meters

Postby NathanC » Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:02 pm

Provan did give the caveat that most people in the gas chambers would've been small children, and that European Jews at the time were shorter than healthy Americans in the 90s.

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Re: 8 people packed into 0.3 Square Meters

Postby Sergey_Romanov » Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:52 pm

He also examined Gerstein's specific statement in which it was claimed that half of the victims on that occasion were children.

While this is not generally applicable, this shows that things that are hard to visualize are nevertheless possible.

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Re: 8 people packed into 0.3 Square Meters

Postby Denying-History » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:05 pm

On the subject of adults alone:

As to physical capacities, it is worth remembering that the current construction regulations in the German Federal Republic for public transport (streetcars) envisions a density of eight adults, each weighing 65 kg., per one square meter.

https://web.archive.org/web/20090705103625/http://en.auschwitz.org.pl/m/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=334&Itemid=8

As a side note it's quite possible that Piper over estimates the size of the red house.
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Re: 8 people packed into 0.3 Square Meters

Postby iwh » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:00 pm

...another case of the problems people have with estimations. The fact is, people were packed into the chambers like sardines. Trying to prove or disprove an event by analysing what are in effect simply estimations is pointless.
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Re: 8 people packed into 0.3 Square Meters

Postby Matthew Ellard » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:07 pm

I went through this a few years ago by simply looking at contortionists who get themselves into boxes. I don't know the current world record.
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Re: 8 people packed into 0.3 Square Meters

Postby Denying-History » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:52 am

iwh wrote:...another case of the problems people have with estimations. The fact is, people were packed into the chambers like sardines. Trying to prove or disprove an event by analysing what are in effect simply estimations is pointless.

By analyzing testimony one can notice specific aspects that render some claims of witnesses wrong. Deniers take a rather legitimate piece of cross examination and abuse it.
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