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1945 the Savage Peace

Postby psychiatry is a scam » Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:23 pm

wonder how many will insist that this did not happen ; because the numbers do not add up .

really does not matter - all Europeans are blank . fighting each other to control (what they considered) the world

also wonder if the roman catholic church was/is the main cause .


1945 the savage peace - is a 2015 documentary
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for the real minority ; there will be no justice , there will be no peace .
makes sense 2me , so it has 2be wrong .

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Re: 1945 the Savage Peace

Postby Balsamo » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:14 am

So what is it?
A documentary? Any links?

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Re: 1945 the Savage Peace

Postby Balmoral95 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:23 am

Balsamo wrote:So what is it?
A documentary? Any links?


BBC doco available via Netflix currently. Don't know about other sources.

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Re: 1945 the Savage Peace

Postby Balsamo » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:32 am

Good, i have netflix...although Central America...not sure it is listed here...otherwise, i will have a look.

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Re: 1945 the Savage Peace

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:00 am

psychiatry is a scam wrote:wonder how many will insist that this did not happen ; because the numbers do not add up .



I’m not sure what your point is. Anyone who studied the war and its aftermath know what happened to the ethnic Germans. Their fate was especially harsh in Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia and Poland. I’m not going to excuse the behavior, anymore than I excused the behavior of the Red Army in their march through Germany. I understand why it happened.

One of the things Potsdam did was to formalize the expulsion of ethnic Germans but to do it in a more orderly and humane fashion. The arbitrary expulsions and deaths went down after this.

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Re: 1945 the Savage Peace

Postby Balmoral95 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:06 am

Balsamo wrote:Good, i have netflix...although Central America...not sure it is listed here...otherwise, i will have a look.

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No problem.

I have not yet watched it, so I can't comment as to content.

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Re: 1945 the Savage Peace

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Jeffk 1970 wrote:
psychiatry is a scam wrote:wonder how many will insist that this did not happen ; because the numbers do not add up .



I’m not sure what your point is. Anyone who studied the war and its aftermath know what happened to the ethnic Germans. Their fate was especially harsh in Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia and Poland. I’m not going to excuse the behavior, anymore than I excused the behavior of the Red Army in their march through Germany. I understand why it happened.

One of the things Potsdam did was to formalize the expulsion of ethnic Germans but to do it in a more orderly and humane fashion. The arbitrary expulsions and deaths went down after this.


I don't study , just a slave to the media , and had no idea it was so bad
the movie says the opposite - that expulsion was a death sentence - another Truman stupid mistake
for the real minority ; there will be no justice , there will be no peace .
makes sense 2me , so it has 2be wrong .

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Re: 1945 the Savage Peace

Postby Matthew Ellard » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:38 am

psychiatry is a scam wrote: 1945 the savage peace - is a 1915 documentary


It's a 2015 documentary.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5267658/

Review in the Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvan ... eview.html

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Re: 1945 the Savage Peace

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:45 am

. . . a favorite topic for been-there - along with his pretend act that events have not been studied or written about, an act to which the existence of this documentary further puts paid - on the victor's TV (BBC) no less . . .
Nazism conspired to create a sense of festival time. . . . Tragically for humanity, the party generating it was the type not associated with the coloured costumes of the Brazilian Carnival, but with the brown-shirted thuggery of the NSDAP. The contrast between the dance and the march, between the samba and the strains of the Horst Wessel Lied, points to the gulf separating a life-asserting community from a community which exists only by creating a demonized other. - RG '97

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Re: 1945 the Savage Peace

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:54 am

psychiatry is a scam wrote:
Jeffk 1970 wrote:
psychiatry is a scam wrote:wonder how many will insist that this did not happen ; because the numbers do not add up .



I’m not sure what your point is. Anyone who studied the war and its aftermath know what happened to the ethnic Germans. Their fate was especially harsh in Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia and Poland. I’m not going to excuse the behavior, anymore than I excused the behavior of the Red Army in their march through Germany. I understand why it happened.

One of the things Potsdam did was to formalize the expulsion of ethnic Germans but to do it in a more orderly and humane fashion. The arbitrary expulsions and deaths went down after this.


I don't study , just a slave to the media , and had no idea it was so bad
the movie says the opposite - that expulsion was a death sentence - another Truman stupid mistake



Then maybe you should take the time to do more research on a subject before opening a thread on it. Or, you can open a thread and ask for input instead of making certain erroneous assumptions about what the lot of us will know about or believe.

I haven’t watched it but I will. I think it’s a bit ridiculous to blame Truman, these expulsions and atrocities gathered a life of their own during and after the war.

Here:
https://www.amazon.com/Savage-Continent-Europe-Aftermath-World/dp/125003356X/ref=nodl_

That’s a good book on the subject.

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Re: 1945 the Savage Peace

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:58 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:. . . a favorite topic for been-there - along with his pretend act that events have not been studied or written about, an act to which the existence of this documentary further puts paid - on the victor's TV (BBC) no less . . .



Not to mention wildly inflating the death toll of ethnic Germans, that’s also a favorite of deniers everywhere.

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Statistical Mechanic wrote:. . . a favorite topic for been-there - along with his pretend act that events have not been studied or written about, an act to which the existence of this documentary further puts paid - on the victor's TV (BBC) no less . . .


He's been a bed wetter all his life. Simple as that.

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Re: 1945 the Savage Peace

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:17 am

been-there's failed & swiftly abandoned thread on the Vertreibungen . . . sad!
Nazism conspired to create a sense of festival time. . . . Tragically for humanity, the party generating it was the type not associated with the coloured costumes of the Brazilian Carnival, but with the brown-shirted thuggery of the NSDAP. The contrast between the dance and the march, between the samba and the strains of the Horst Wessel Lied, points to the gulf separating a life-asserting community from a community which exists only by creating a demonized other. - RG '97

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Postby Balmoral95 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:26 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:been-there's failed & swiftly abandoned thread on the Vertreibungen . . . sad!


Sad, sad, sad. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Pathetic.

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Re: 1945 the Savage Peace

Postby Balmoral95 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:32 am

And, 15 millionen? :roll:

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Re: 1945 the Savage Peace

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:50 am

bed wetter LOL
Nazism conspired to create a sense of festival time. . . . Tragically for humanity, the party generating it was the type not associated with the coloured costumes of the Brazilian Carnival, but with the brown-shirted thuggery of the NSDAP. The contrast between the dance and the march, between the samba and the strains of the Horst Wessel Lied, points to the gulf separating a life-asserting community from a community which exists only by creating a demonized other. - RG '97

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Re: 1945 the Savage Peace

Postby Gord » Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:54 am

Matthew Ellard wrote:
psychiatry is a scam wrote: 1945 the savage peace - is a 1915 documentary

It's a 2015 documentary.

Meh. Close enough.
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Re: 1945 the Savage Peace

Postby Matthew Ellard » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:59 am

psychiatry is a scam wrote: 1945 the savage peace - is a 1915 documentary
Matthew Ellard wrote:It's a 2015 documentary.
Gord wrote:Meh. Close enough.
I don't know about you, but I'd then have to argue about a documentary made by time travellers, who could see the future. Once I opened that can of worms, Gorgeous would posting "I told you so". :D

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Re: 1945 the Savage Peace

Postby Gord » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:40 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:
psychiatry is a scam wrote:1945 the savage peace - is a 1915 documentary

Matthew Ellard wrote:It's a 2015 documentary.

Gord wrote:Meh. Close enough.

I don't know about you, but I'd then have to argue about a documentary made by time travellers, who could see the future. Once I opened that can of worms, Gorgeous would posting "I told you so". :D

I was speaking from a general science standpoint. Like in astronomy, where measurements of time can be in billions of years, +/- a billion. Or in archaeology, where measurements can be in thousands of years, +/- hundreds. Or in religion, where measurements can be in tens of years, +/- billions. ;)
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Re: 1945 the Savage Peace

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:57 pm

Gord wrote:
Matthew Ellard wrote:
psychiatry is a scam wrote: 1945 the savage peace - is a 1915 documentary

It's a 2015 documentary.

Meh. Close enough.

close enough on the death toll too, maximum 250k or 15m, give or take
Nazism conspired to create a sense of festival time. . . . Tragically for humanity, the party generating it was the type not associated with the coloured costumes of the Brazilian Carnival, but with the brown-shirted thuggery of the NSDAP. The contrast between the dance and the march, between the samba and the strains of the Horst Wessel Lied, points to the gulf separating a life-asserting community from a community which exists only by creating a demonized other. - RG '97

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Re: 1945 the Savage Peace

Postby Balsamo » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:30 pm

I thought so,
There already was a topic on that, posted by David.
It was by then available on youtube but has been removed since.

Here:
http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=25594&hilit=A+savage+peace

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Re: 1945 the Savage Peace

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:45 pm

Balsamo wrote:I thought so,
There already was a topic on that, posted by David.
It was by then available on youtube but has been removed since.

Here:
http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=25594&hilit=A+savage+peace



It’s on Netflix if you have that service.

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Re: 1945 the Savage Peace

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:47 pm

Ah, I wondered if we'd discussed that here . . . it devolved into a thread on post-punk bands LOL
Nazism conspired to create a sense of festival time. . . . Tragically for humanity, the party generating it was the type not associated with the coloured costumes of the Brazilian Carnival, but with the brown-shirted thuggery of the NSDAP. The contrast between the dance and the march, between the samba and the strains of the Horst Wessel Lied, points to the gulf separating a life-asserting community from a community which exists only by creating a demonized other. - RG '97

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Re: 1945 the Savage Peace

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:52 pm

Our threads do that....a lot.

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Re: 1945 the Savage Peace

Postby Balsamo » Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:00 pm

Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Balsamo wrote:I thought so,
There already was a topic on that, posted by David.
It was by then available on youtube but has been removed since.

Here:
http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=25594&hilit=A+savage+peace



It’s on Netflix if you have that service.


Found it, but already saw it. Not the kind of stuff one really wants to look at twice.

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Re: 1945 the Savage Peace

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:04 pm

Agreed.


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