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Re: Populism and Nationalism in Europe Today

Post by scrmbldggs » Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:48 pm

montgomery wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:24 pm
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After Jimmy Åkesson told Aftonbladet that he'd consider stepping down as party leader of the Sweden Democrats (if the Moderaterna asked in order to be able to form a government with the Sweden Democrats - "If you change that Åkesson then we can form government together"), Åkesson continued (per Aftonbladet):
Another unexpected message from Åkesson is he also opens to co-operate with the Social Democrats. And the Christian Democrats. He has previously said that he may also intend to support an S[ocial Democratic] government governing his political heart issues. But now he says that he may even think of being part of an S government despite the fact that his party mates in the constituency carry sweaters with the words "stopping the socialists".

- I have talked about the SD, KD and S in conversation with the speaker as a possible constellation. It is as likely politically as the one we talk about where the Moderates are present. I think we could agree quite well even with the Social Democrats.

An S, KD and SD government is a completely unrealistic alternative?

- Yes. It's very remote. But actually, there are some worse options possible than with the Moderates. But there should be there as an alternative, "said Jimmie Åkesson to Aftonbladet on Tuesday afternoon.

Meanwhile, with their election now basically unwatched by the world media, the Swedes are in the first step of government formation:

- the party leaders have met with the Moderaterna Riksdag speaker (newly elected with Sweden Democrat votes)
- the Riksdag speaker in no surprise has asked party-mate Ulf Kristersson, leader of the Moderaterna, to form a government

My guess is that Åkesson's statements today are meant as pressure on Kristersson to include the Sweden Democrats in his government.
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Re: Populism and Nationalism in Europe Today

Post by montgomery » Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:04 pm

Eggs breaks the silence for the sake of a typo!

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Re: Populism and Nationalism in Europe Today

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Re: Populism and Nationalism in Europe Today

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:56 pm

Moderaterna leader Kristersson is being pressed from three sides in his attempt to form a government:

- as above, Jimmy Åkesson of the Sweden Democrats is pushing for a role in the new government (otherwise, the party now says that its Riksdag members will oppose an Alliance government led by the Moderaterna)
- the Liberals and the Center party - two of the four parties in the Alliance bloc - want a deal in which the Social Democrats support a new Alliance government especially on the budget and still oppose a Sweden Democrat backed option
- Social Democratic party leader Stefan Löfven says that the Social Democrats won't be a support party for an Alliance government (recall that the Alliance members of the Riksdag were joined by the Sweden Democrats in removing Löfven as prime minister)

The math is tough: without support from either the Social Democrats or the Sweden Democrats, the Alliance can't put together a Riksdag majority. Even a Moderaterna, Christian Democrat, and Sweden Democrat coalition would fall 21 seats short of a majority. In short, unless the Center and Liberals cave on the issue of the Sweden Democrats, the path to a new government is a Social Democrat-Moderaterna agreement of some sort - the very thing that both party leaders have boxed themselves out of, despite meeting today.
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Re: Populism and Nationalism in Europe Today

Post by ElectricMonk » Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:35 am

I'm no expert in Swedish Election Law, but I'm pretty sure this Girl is now your Queen:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45753455

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Re: Populism and Nationalism in Europe Today

Post by Balmoral95 » Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:36 am

ElectricMonk wrote:
Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:35 am
I'm no expert in Swedish Election Law, but I'm pretty sure this Girl is now your Queen:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45753455
She might be a fake claimant: Recently we were informed that Stat Mech was descended from Moses and therefore the rightful leader of this little, wandering, Zionist tribe... I even have it on good authority that after a recent massive flood he's been seen carrying tablets of wallboard around without revealing the inscriptions on them. Serious, serious business, this....some even say yet another oracle from Rodoh shall appear, revealing all truth and light when next the moon is blue and there appears in the Eastern Occupied Territories.... a star..

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Re: Populism and Nationalism in Europe Today

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:24 pm

Pyrrho posted this NYRB piece by Christopher Browning in the Donny Thread: "The Suffocation of Democracy": in the piece Browning answers the question he, as a historian of the Third Reich, is so often asked nowadays, to what degree "the current situation in the United States resembles the interwar period and the rise of fascism in Europe." Without giving anything away, I will note this line from the piece, "If the US has someone whom historians will look back on as the gravedigger of American democracy, it is Mitch McConnell."
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Re: Populism and Nationalism in Europe Today

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:54 pm

The Swedish press is reporting that Moderaterna leader Ulf Kristersson, facing a Tuesday deadline to form a government, will inform the Riksdag leader tomorrow that he cannot do so.

The Alliance appears to have split, perhaps permanently, with the Liberals and Center refusing to support a Moderaterna government on Kristersson's terms - that is, with Sweden Democrat (SD) support. The small Christian Democratic party is in favor of Kristerrson's proposal.

However, Kristerrson's proposal was framed as an ultimatum to the Alliance parties, and, unlike the Christian Democrats, the Center and Liberals have reacted with anger. Annie Lööf, leader of the Center party, announced disappointment with Kristersson's effort and his apparent preference to form a government with SD backing, even at the cost of inclusion of the Liberals and Center, both members of the Alliance. The Center's 31 members of the Riksdag will vote "no" on such a Moderaterna-led government. Jan Björklund, leader of the Liberals, has added that Kristerrson did not make a real effort to explore cross-bloc possibilities which would include all 4 Alliance parties, exclude the SDs, and include the Social Democrats. The Liberals will also vote "no."

Both the Liberals and Center are signaling some openness to a coalition led by the Social Democrats under certain conditions. Among the proposed options are a grand coalition, of Moderaterna and Social Democrats (the two largest parties), like the CD - SPD alliance in Germany.

What do I know? I had predicted that this would not happen, given what I heard on the ground from Liberal and Center campaigners during the election - their strong distaste for Social Democratic economic policies. If the Liberals and Center wind up supporting some form of a Social Democratic government, it will be a case of values trumping economics.

Jimmy Åkesson, SD leader, has reacted with a statement that the Alliance is toast and that a truly right-wing government is now possible, without the Liberals and Center. The problem? Together, the SD, the Moderaterna, and the Christian Democrats have only 154 seats in the Riksdag out of 175 needed for a majority - and all other parties seem sure to vote "no" on a right-wing government.

The Moderaterna have fired back at Lööf and Björklund saying that if they wish to serve as doormats to the Social Democrats, so be it.

At the same time, a cross-bloc coalition led by the Social Democrats and including the Liberals, Center, and Greens - if it should eventually come to that - will not have a majority (it can command 167 seats, 10 shy of a majority). But a government in Sweden can exist if a majority doesn't vote against it - which, should today's threats go as far as pulling the Liberals and Center into a new coalition with the Social Democrats, would put the Left in a decisive role - the Left would not be part of such a coalition, but the coalition would need the 28 Left Riksdag members to refuse to vote against their government.

In the meantime, it is expected that Stefan Löfven, party leader of the Social Democrats, will be asked to take the next shot at forming a new Swedish government.
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Re: Populism and Nationalism in Europe Today

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:12 pm

Merkel's "sister" party gets clobbered in Bavaria, in another instance of a traditional leading European party in throes of agony:
The party is expected to continue to govern even after Sunday’s election. But projected results based on exit polls on Sunday evening showed the CSU’s share of the vote falling dramatically, from nearly half in 2013 to barely more than a third, with 35.5 percent. Parties on either ideological flank — the Greens on the left, with an estimated 19 percent, and the Alternative for Germany (AfD) on the far right, with 11 percent — severely dented the CSU’s traditional dominance.
One silver lining for Merkel is that Seehofer, of the CSU and Interior minister, who has trashed the Merkel government from the right and has been involved in scandal, is damaged by the result in his home state.
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Re: Populism and Nationalism in Europe Today

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:03 pm

In Sweden, SD leader Åkesson agrees that it's reasonable that Stefan Löfven be given the next shot at government formation - but says that the time should be brief and that, with the party positions "locked," new elections are the probably outcome. Meanwhile, the Alliance (conservative bloc) split deepens, and no one can figure out what Annie Lööf, Center party leader, will accept - she vacillates between a Social Democratic led government that could be supported by the Center and Liberals and a grand coalition (Social Democrats + Moderaterna). The rhetoric is increasingly hostile.
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:14 pm

When I visited Berlin, the far right and neo-Nazis were crowing about the tide turning as about 500 Berlin neo-Nazis marched on the anniversary of Hess' death. I read that the counter-demonstrators numbered 1000 - and that 2300 police were deployed for the march. Today, in Berlin, however, up to 1/4 of a million people demonstrated against the far right: Berlin protests against far-right politics draw thousands:
erlin produced an absurdly hot and sunny fall day on Saturday to welcome an estimated 240,000 people demonstrating against racism and calling for solidarity against the rise of far-right populism across Germany.

A 5-kilometer (3-mile) stretch of the capital city's center, from Alexanderplatz through the Brandenburg Gate to the Victory Column, had to be closed down to accommodate the huge parade, which was united under the hashtag #unteilbar ("indivisible").

The crowds were punctuated by 40 trucks mounted with loudspeakers, some delivering political messages, others pumping out music of all genres. They also included the traditional Berlin staple: the techno truck surrounded by semi-clothed dancers. The march was bookended by two concert events, the second of which was expected to stretch into the evening.

All kinds of organizations joined in, including trade unions, NGOs, political parties (both mainstream and fringe), gay rights groups, schools and theaters, all carrying a variety of banners, each with their own cause to promote (Ryanair workers were a conspicuous presence), but all united behind the slogan: "Solidarity not marginalization." . . .

The [protest] declaration went on to attack the effects of global capitalism: "Millions suffer the impact of an underinvestment in basic care, healthcare, childcare and education."

There was a widespread feeling in the crowd that such a mass statement was a vital correction in a country that has seen ordinary people joining far-right, even neo-Nazi protests, and several conservative politicians adopting anti-immigrant rhetoric.

"There are people here who want to show that they don't support what is going on in Germany, including from established politicians, all this hate, this whole debate about immigration," said Rola Saleh, a social worker who helps young refugees in the eastern city of Chemnitz, where far-right violence made international headlines in late August. . . .

Senior government figures lent their support to the demonstration, most notably Foreign Minister Heiko Maas, who tweeted: "It is a great signal that so many people are going on the streets and showing a clear position: We are indivisible. We won't let ourselves be divided — certainly not by right-wing populists."

While Maas' Social Democratic Party (SPD), along with the Greens and the socialist Left party, all offered official support, Angela Merkel's Christian Democratic Union (CDU) was absent on Saturday.
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Re: Populism and Nationalism in Europe Today

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:06 pm

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