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Hubert Pfoch Photos of Jews waiting for deportation

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 4:32 pm

Hubert Pfoch took three photos of Jews waiting at the Siedlce Station on August 22nd, 1942. This transport wound up in Treblinka. Hubert Pfoch was an Austrian soldier who later got close enough to smell the corpses decaying inside Treblinka.





The caption claims these victims were shot, however, I did not see them described this way in Gitta Sereny's book, "Into that Darkness." Also, this picture is more detailed than what I saw in the book.




Just wanted to share these in case anyone hadn't seen these before. I've seen them in various places but Sereny's book reminded me of them.

It does give us a tiny glimpse into the chaos that existed during those early days, corpses lying about on the way into Treblinka that had to be retrieved and disposed of.

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Postby Jeff_36 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 4:36 pm

Pfoch is a critical witness to the Eastern Poland Holocaust - his rejoinder to a prominent american Holocaust denier was awesome and telling

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/p/pfo ... h-001.html

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Postby Jeffk 1970 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 4:38 pm

Wanted to add this, also from Sereny's book:



I've always found this picture of the monument haunting. It dates from the 1960's.

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Postby Jeffk 1970 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 4:39 pm

Jeff_36 wrote:Pfoch is a critical witness to the Eastern Poland Holocaust - his rejoinder to a prominent american Holocaust denier was awesome and telling

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/p/pfo ... h-001.html


Thanks for that, when I get a moment I'll add what he said about the camp.

Probably his words are on Holocaust Controversies somewhere.

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Postby Jeff_36 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 4:46 pm

Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Jeff_36 wrote:Pfoch is a critical witness to the Eastern Poland Holocaust - his rejoinder to a prominent american Holocaust denier was awesome and telling

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/p/pfo ... h-001.html


Thanks for that, when I get a moment I'll add what he said about the camp.

Probably his words are on Holocaust Controversies somewhere.


He seemed like a real G

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Re: Hubert Pfoch Photos of Jews waiting for deportation

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 4:59 pm

Hubert Pfoch, a German soldier on his way to the Eastern Front, passed Treblinka station behind a train bound for the camp in August 1942. In his diary he noted the following impressions, among others[6]:
Eventually our train followed the other train and we continued to see corpses on both sides of the track - children and others. They say Treblinka is a ‘delousing camp’. When we reach Treblinka station the train is next to us again - there is such an awful smell of decomposing corpses in the station, some of us vomit.


http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2016/01/a-document-that-forced-mattogno-to.html?m=1

Multiple witnesses noted the smell and it turned up in military correspondence.

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Postby Jeffk 1970 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 5:08 pm

Jeff_36 wrote:Pfoch is a critical witness to the Eastern Poland Holocaust - his rejoinder to a prominent american Holocaust denier was awesome and telling

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/p/pfo ... h-001.html


Pfoch mentioned four photos in that letter, do we know what the fourth is? I thought there were only three.

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Re: Hubert Pfoch Photos of Jews waiting for deportation

Postby scrmbldggs » Fri Aug 18, 2017 5:28 pm

Could be this one.

http://www.deathcamps.org/treblinka/photos.html wrote:DEPORTATION FROM SIEDLCE
This photo was taken on 22 August 1942 by the Austrian soldier Hubert Pfoch on his way to the front...
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Postby Jeffk 1970 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:06 pm

Thanks, that's it, not included in the book.

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Re: Hubert Pfoch Photos of Jews waiting for deportation

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:34 pm

Ever have one of those times when you just aren't satisfied with your avatar?

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This one is the one my son wanted me to get.

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In a somewhat uncanny mannerJeff disco banana reminds me of a similar eye con that Mr Smith used to employ at Rodoh - before...

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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:00 am

thanks for that, I knew I'd seen it or something like it before . . . ugh, Mr Smith . . .
. . . I mean Negative Capability, that is, when a man is capable of being in uncertainties, mysteries, doubts, without any irritable reaching after fact and reason—Coleridge, for instance, would let go by a fine isolated verisimilitude caught from the Penetralium of mystery, from being incapable of remaining content with half-knowledge. - John Keats, 1817

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Postby Jeffk 1970 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:45 pm

Sorry to dredge up old memories.

If it helps I'm getting ready to change it, my youngest son wants something Halloween themed..... :D

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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:02 pm

LOL no worries, my ugh was for Scott, not your dancing guy!
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Re: Hubert Pfoch Photos of Jews waiting for deportation

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:10 pm

My son is fascinated with the avatars I use, I'll have to find a Halloween one he approves of.

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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:23 pm

but does he find it odd that you talk to Nazis online? :)
. . . I mean Negative Capability, that is, when a man is capable of being in uncertainties, mysteries, doubts, without any irritable reaching after fact and reason—Coleridge, for instance, would let go by a fine isolated verisimilitude caught from the Penetralium of mystery, from being incapable of remaining content with half-knowledge. - John Keats, 1817

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Re: Hubert Pfoch Photos of Jews waiting for deportation

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:29 pm

Statistical Mechanic wrote:but does he find it odd that you talk to Nazis online? :)


Yeah, we don't really discuss that bit..... :lol:

This avatar comes with the official Dylan stamp of approval!!!!

I've been told to check with him before I make any changes.

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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:34 pm

good call on his part!
. . . I mean Negative Capability, that is, when a man is capable of being in uncertainties, mysteries, doubts, without any irritable reaching after fact and reason—Coleridge, for instance, would let go by a fine isolated verisimilitude caught from the Penetralium of mystery, from being incapable of remaining content with half-knowledge. - John Keats, 1817

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Re: Hubert Pfoch Photos of Jews waiting for deportation

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I approve.


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