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Re: Documentaries

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Sat Mar 31, 2018 2:54 pm

Statistical Mechanic wrote:in lieu of a more appropriate thread, I am posting this here: Alon Confino said at a conference in 2012, “you didn’t have to imagine Babi Yar if you already imagined a world without Jews . . . what we call the Holocaust was representable, was imaginable . . . somehow people had ways.” 1920s movie restored: "The City without Jews"



Aly discusses this, there were books written at that time with that theme.
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Re: Documentaries

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:48 am

My wife and I watched Downfall tonight. A friend told me that through it all the ending is happy. I thought the movie was really good. Ganz was superb.

(I happen to be reading about the battle of Berlin in Erickson, which fit nicely.)
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Re: Documentaries

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:49 am

I’ve watched bits and pieces of Downfall, never the whole thing.
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Re: Documentaries

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:49 pm

before last night, I'd only seen the various "Downfall" parodies :)
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Re: Documentaries

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:29 pm

Statistical Mechanic wrote:before last night, I'd only seen the various "Downfall" parodies :)



https://youtu.be/QSYk8ofhYFY

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I watched some of it when it was on Netflix, it’s not there anymore.
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Re: Documentaries

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:34 am

that one is funny!

tonight we watched The Big Red One, with Lee Marvin and friggin' Mark Hamill, excellent movie
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Re: Documentaries

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:48 am

That's a blast from the past.
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Re: Documentaries

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:14 am

waaaay baaaack LOL but quite good, another one I'd never seen . . .
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Re: Documentaries

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:25 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:waaaay baaaack LOL but quite good, another one I'd never seen . . .


How is it I’ve seen it before you have????

:D

The odd thing is I always enjoyed the old war movies, The Dirty Dozen, The Bridge on the River Kwai, Patton, The Guns of Navarone, etc. I used to watch them with my dad.

On the other hand, maybe they were just crap and I’m looking back on them with fond nostalgia.... :lol:
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Re: Documentaries

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:29 am

Lee Marvin was in The Dirty Dozen, so it was by definition not crap :)
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Re: Documentaries

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:32 am

Now you are putting me in the mood to watch something like that.

One I’ve never seen is “Night of the Generals,” a friend recommended it a long time ago but I never got a chance to watch it. Less of a war movie, more of a mystery.
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Re: Documentaries

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:32 pm

I tried to watch something called “The Wannsee Conference” on Prime Video. I made better documentary films while at school, didn’t bother.
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Re: Documentaries

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:59 pm

Was it as good as a BROI special?
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Re: Documentaries

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:07 pm

You know, I’ve never seen one of the rabbit’s masterpieces.

I can tell you it didn’t make me laugh like one of Eric Hunt’s messterpieces... :lol:
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Re: Documentaries

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:12 pm

I can recall only two of BROI's specials. One was overkill on a dubious Majdanek testimony in which he tucked a few bits of dishonest BS. The other was a short, hysterical - and thoroughly dishonest - reaction, featuring his usual docu-porn approach, to posts I made in this forum discussing Majdanek with Nessie. I might have seen others - I am pretty sure I did - but I can't recall them.

Hunt's videos were consistently terrible - they were torture to watch; I cannot imagine anyone but the faithful, and apparently Nessie, sitting through them and falling for them.
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Re: Documentaries

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:54 pm

I only watched a little of Hunt’s crapfest videos, they alternately made me laugh and cringe.
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