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Re: March 1941: Nazis use humour to deny gassing the insane

Post by Balmoral95 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:16 pm

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Don't they all realize how their behavior has diminished their credibility? Skepticism or denial could be so distasteful to them that they are forced into taking that kind of stand but they all need to try to rise above it. The holocaust needs respectable promotion and they are deserting the cause because of what can only be seen as immaturity that has led to insecurity. Thus, the failure to even attempt to carry on a discussion.
My first impression being here was that it was like walking into a Synagogue full of fanatic Zionist Supremacists. I have in my mind the kind of people that abuse Arabs by throwing rubbish and excrement in their direction. Truth or reality has little meaning. All in the name of being good Zionists fulfilling Yawhehs mission.
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Re: March 1941: Nazis use humour to deny gassing the insane

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VFX wrote:
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Don't they all realize how their behavior has diminished their credibility? Skepticism or denial could be so distasteful to them that they are forced into taking that kind of stand but they all need to try to rise above it. The holocaust needs respectable promotion and they are deserting the cause because of what can only be seen as immaturity that has led to insecurity. Thus, the failure to even attempt to carry on a discussion.
My first impression being here was that it was like walking into a Synagogue full of fanatic Zionist Supremacists. I have in my mind the kind of people that abuse Arabs by throwing rubbish and excrement in their direction. Truth or reality has little meaning. All in the name of being good Zionists fulfilling Yawhehs mission.
I nearly snorted a gulp of Loka out my nose reading this. And I mean both posts.
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Re: March 1941: Nazis use humour to deny gassing the insane

Post by VFX » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:23 pm

First impressions, if it is the truth does it hurt you?
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Re: March 1941: Nazis use humour to deny gassing the insane

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Balmoral95 wrote:
Jesus wept, are you facked up.
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:27 pm

VFX wrote:First impressions, if it is the truth does it hurt you?
VFX, I mean this in the nicest, most helpful way: you are blinded by your prejudices, you can't take in information and thoughts that your prejudices block, you work by means of ridiculous stereotypes and bigotry, and you are dumb as a sack of hammers. It is incomprehensible to me that they have actually let you out in the world on your own. But I guess it balances out because you have total delusional confidence in your idiocy.
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Re: March 1941: Nazis use humour to deny gassing the insane

Post by VFX » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:30 pm

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
VFX wrote:First impressions, if it is the truth does it hurt you?
VFX, I mean this in the nicest, most helpful way: you are blinded by your prejudices, you can't take in information and thoughts that your prejudices block, you work by means of ridiculous stereotypes and bigotry, and you are dumb as a sack of hammers. It is incomprehensible to me that they have actually let you out in the world on your own. But I guess it balances out because you have total delusional confidence in your idiocy.
Thank you for you most kind insincere thoughts. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: March 1941: Nazis use humour to deny gassing the insane

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:30 pm

No, I am being sincere. You are completely hatstand.
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Re: March 1941: Nazis use humour to deny gassing the insane

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Statistical Mechanic wrote:No, I am being sincere. You are completely hatstand.
Nothing sincere about you. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: March 1941: Nazis use humour to deny gassing the insane

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:40 pm

VFX wrote:
Statistical Mechanic wrote:No, I am being sincere. You are completely hatstand.
Nothing sincere about you. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: March 1941: Nazis use humour to deny gassing the insane

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:41 pm

VFX wrote:
montgomery wrote:
Don't they all realize how their behavior has diminished their credibility? Skepticism or denial could be so distasteful to them that they are forced into taking that kind of stand but they all need to try to rise above it. The holocaust needs respectable promotion and they are deserting the cause because of what can only be seen as immaturity that has led to insecurity. Thus, the failure to even attempt to carry on a discussion.
My first impression being here was that it was like walking into a Synagogue full of fanatic Zionist Supremacists. I have in my mind the kind of people that abuse Arabs by throwing rubbish and excrement in their direction. Truth or reality has little meaning. All in the name of being good Zionists fulfilling Yawhehs mission.
Um...I don’t know WTF you are talking about.


I’m not a “Zionist.” I never have been. I’m OK with the state of Israel existing but that hardly makes me the biggest Israel supporter. I generally criticize Israeli policies and think Netanyahu is one of the world’s biggest douchebags.

That doesn’t mean I have any issues with Jews in general. I criticize Israeli policies but that has nothing to do with Judaism as a religion. I frankly don’t care who or what people worship.

So, stop being so stupid. You (and other deniers like you) pull this Zionist crap out when it suits you to shield yourself from reality.
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Re: March 1941: Nazis use humour to deny gassing the insane

Post by scrmbldggs » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:11 pm

:hmm: It's clear that Miss Manners don't stick to her own preaching, but whassup with the parroting now. :nuts:
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Re: March 1941: Nazis use humour to deny gassing the insane

Post by montgomery » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:59 pm

Balsamo wrote:Anyway, i am personally not convinced that the footage actually shows a real gassing of mentally insane in "live". But the details shown in the various links posted by Hans also exclude a pure fabrication by the Soviets. They could have staged the whole scene, but then how one explains the license plates? the fact that the vehicules belonged to the EG and EK present in the area at the same times?
The Soviets could have found two German cars, but wouldn't have bothered with the license plates.
I have suggested something like that right from the beginning Balsamo. Bu be aware that hasn't been accepted by Hans or any of the others.
Now it is very possible that the shadow have been added for more visual effects, along with the soundtrack of the cars, maybe or maybe not, but it does not change the whole picture and HC's conclusions.
Not only possible but very probable. And so why has it taken so long for one of you to take the obvious position that it's a fake?

FYI - Hans has already said the soundtrack for the car was faked. dubbed in, however he worded it?

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Statistical Mechanic wrote:No, I am being sincere. You are completely hatstand.
Balsamo has put the whole fake video idea to bed so I guess that a wrap for this one eh numbnuts. :oops:

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The shadow man made the original sounds, which the film, however, did not capture, duh. They had to add the dubbing later. With another shadow person. :roll:
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Re: March 1941: Nazis use humour to deny gassing the insane

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montgomery wrote:
Statistical Mechanic wrote:No, I am being sincere. You are completely hatstand.
Balsamo has put the whole fake video idea to bed so I guess that a wrap for this one eh numbnuts. :oops:
Tsk tsk tsk, mind your manners, child.
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scrmbldggs wrote:
montgomery wrote:
Statistical Mechanic wrote:No, I am being sincere. You are completely hatstand.
Balsamo has put the whole fake video idea to bed so I guess that a wrap for this one eh numbnuts. :oops:
Tsk tsk tsk, mind your manners, child.
Just can't help responding to you on this one eggs. It's like Christmas in September for a skeptic! :oops:

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Post by scrmbldggs » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:23 pm

montgomery wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:
montgomery wrote:
Statistical Mechanic wrote:No, I am being sincere. You are completely hatstand.
Balsamo has put the whole fake video idea to bed so I guess that a wrap for this one eh numbnuts. :oops:
Tsk tsk tsk, mind your manners, child.
Just can't help responding to you on this one eggs. It's like Christmas in September for a skeptic! :oops:
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montgomery wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:
montgomery wrote:
Statistical Mechanic wrote:No, I am being sincere. You are completely hatstand.
Balsamo has put the whole fake video idea to bed so I guess that a wrap for this one eh numbnuts. :oops:
Tsk tsk tsk, mind your manners, child.
Just can't help responding to you on this one eggs. It's like Christmas in September for a skeptic! :oops:

This is the part where not all of us agree. That is fine, this is the point of discussion. I disagree with Balsamo’s conclusions. But I bet it is nice to have someone besides VFX agree with you.
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Jeffk 1970 wrote:
montgomery wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:
montgomery wrote:
Statistical Mechanic wrote:No, I am being sincere. You are completely hatstand.
Balsamo has put the whole fake video idea to bed so I guess that a wrap for this one eh numbnuts. :oops:
Tsk tsk tsk, mind your manners, child.
Just can't help responding to you on this one eggs. It's like Christmas in September for a skeptic! :oops:

This is the part where not all of us agree. That is fine, this is the point of discussion. I disagree with Balsamo’s conclusions. But I bet it is nice to have someone besides VFX agree with you.
Why couldn't everybody just accept this logical explanation of Balsamo's that it was seen as a fake right from the beginning? But if you think you can continue to push this goatfuq of a charade, you go right ahead. Put your heart into it! It'll keep you off the streets for a while and we'll maybe get some real attempt to hear one of you try to make your case.

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montgomery wrote:
Jeffk 1970 wrote:
montgomery wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:
montgomery wrote:
Statistical Mechanic wrote:No, I am being sincere. You are completely hatstand.
Balsamo has put the whole fake video idea to bed so I guess that a wrap for this one eh numbnuts. :oops:
Tsk tsk tsk, mind your manners, child.
Just can't help responding to you on this one eggs. It's like Christmas in September for a skeptic! :oops:

This is the part where not all of us agree. That is fine, this is the point of discussion. I disagree with Balsamo’s conclusions. But I bet it is nice to have someone besides VFX agree with you.
Why couldn't everybody just accept this logical explanation of Balsamo's that it was seen as a fake right from the beginning? But if you think you can continue to push this goatfuq of a charade, you go right ahead. Put your heart into it! It'll keep you off the streets for a while and we'll maybe get some real attempt to hear one of you try to make your case.
I read the evidence for this film being genuine.
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Post by Balsamo » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:07 am

Monty:
I have suggested something like that right from the beginning Balsamo. Bu be aware that hasn't been accepted by Hans or any of the others.
No quite. What i mean is that the shooters of the film wanted to catch the new device that would be used instead of filming on the precise day of the execution. That is all.

Monty:
Not only possible but very probable. And so why has it taken so long for one of you to take the obvious position that it's a fake?

FYI - Hans has already said the soundtrack for the car was faked. dubbed in, however he worded it?
Actually, you should read more carefully what i wrote. I mention the possibility of some editing - under the condition that such an addition is technically possible, as i am not a specialist of film making (hence my maybe, maybe not) - which does not mean that the original footage is a fake.

To prove that the footage is a fake, that is made by the Soviet after the war, would take a little more than just some observation about a shadow on the wall.

I notice that you skipped the rest of what i wrote.
The main point being that such a footage is just a source, and that it is the work of analysis done by the HC crew around it that makes it an eventual proof, although i do not like the term when it comes to historical research, i would say that makes this footage a supported and corroborated source.

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Balsamo wrote:Monty:
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Actually, you should read more carefully what i wrote...
Oh, she's reading carefully. And carefully twisting or skipping what doesn't suit her purpose.
I notice that you skipped the rest of what i wrote...
QED
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Balsamo wrote:Monty:
I have suggested something like that right from the beginning Balsamo. Bu be aware that hasn't been accepted by Hans or any of the others.
No quite. What i mean is that the shooters of the film wanted to catch the new device that would be used instead of filming on the precise day of the execution. That is all.

Monty:
Not only possible but very probable. And so why has it taken so long for one of you to take the obvious position that it's a fake?

FYI - Hans has already said the soundtrack for the car was faked. dubbed in, however he worded it?
Actually, you should read more carefully what i wrote. I mention the possibility of some editing - under the condition that such an addition is technically possible, as i am not a specialist of film making (hence my maybe, maybe not) - which does not mean that the original footage is a fake.

To prove that the footage is a fake, that is made by the Soviet after the war, would take a little more than just some observation about a shadow on the wall.

I notice that you skipped the rest of what i wrote.
The main point being that such a footage is just a source, and that it is the work of analysis done by the HC crew around it that makes it an eventual proof, although i do not like the term when it comes to historical research, i would say that makes this footage a supported and corroborated source.
To set the SSF record straight, I haven't commented on the film clip's authenticity, despite the unfounded claim that no one here has any further questions about that. That said, there's something else notable going on here:

Our two interlopers have so far said Schindler's List was a documentary and this is a fake....

So they take one film,produced for mass commercial consumption and based on a novel, declare it a "documentary" and then take a second film, which based so far on unchallenged provenance was not for public consumption, and declare it a masterwork of mass propaganda.

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Not surprising for someone who takes their own ignorant beliefs and opinions for facts and regards robust evidence fake, hearsay and fairy tales. JO has a term for such: cement heds.
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scrmbldggs wrote:
Balsamo wrote:Monty:
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Actually, you should read more carefully what i wrote...
Oh, she's reading carefully. And carefully twisting or skipping what doesn't suit her purpose.
I notice that you skipped the rest of what i wrote...
QED
She?

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scrmbldggs wrote:Not surprising for someone who takes their own ignorant beliefs and opinions for facts and regards robust evidence fake, hearsay and fairy tales. JO has a term for such: cement heds.
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Post by Balmoral95 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:58 am

montgomery wrote:
Jeffk 1970 wrote:
montgomery wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:
montgomery wrote:
Statistical Mechanic wrote:No, I am being sincere. You are completely hatstand.
Balsamo has put the whole fake video idea to bed so I guess that a wrap for this one eh numbnuts. :oops:
Tsk tsk tsk, mind your manners, child.
Just can't help responding to you on this one eggs. It's like Christmas in September for a skeptic! :oops:

This is the part where not all of us agree. That is fine, this is the point of discussion. I disagree with Balsamo’s conclusions. But I bet it is nice to have someone besides VFX agree with you.
Why couldn't everybody just accept this logical explanation of Balsamo's that it was seen as a fake right from the beginning? But if you think you can continue to push this goatfuq of a charade, you go right ahead. Put your heart into it! It'll keep you off the streets for a while and we'll maybe get some real attempt to hear one of you try to make your case.
Hi Monty, how are things up on the Mount?

Who saw it as a fake right from the start: You, your putz partner?

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Balsamo wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:
Balsamo wrote:Monty:
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Actually, you should read more carefully what i wrote...
Oh, she's reading carefully. And carefully twisting or skipping what doesn't suit her purpose.
I notice that you skipped the rest of what i wrote...
QED
She?
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:36 am

Jeffk 1970 wrote:
montgomery wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:
montgomery wrote:
Statistical Mechanic wrote:No, I am being sincere. You are completely hatstand.
Balsamo has put the whole fake video idea to bed so I guess that a wrap for this one eh numbnuts. :oops:
Tsk tsk tsk, mind your manners, child.
Just can't help responding to you on this one eggs. It's like Christmas in September for a skeptic! :oops:

This is the part where not all of us agree. That is fine, this is the point of discussion. I disagree with Balsamo’s conclusions. But I bet it is nice to have someone besides VFX agree with you.
Jeffk, it is true that we don't all agree, but it is also true that montgomery, as you've quoted him, has distorted what balsamo posted. That is what those replying to him should point out, IMO. Of course, the last word doesn't belong to balsamo, either, in that it has not been spoken, but, in any event, balsamo is being used to support something he didn't say.
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Balsamo wrote:Actually, you should read more carefully what i wrote. . . .
For once I read one of your posts right! :D
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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Balsamo wrote:Actually, you should read more carefully what i wrote. . . .
For once I read one of your posts right! :D
Apparently I didn’t, sorry, Balsamo.
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How much longer is this sock puppet of Chester, 'Montgomery' going to be allowed on this board Pyrrho?

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Darren Wilshak wrote:How much longer is this sock puppet of Chester, 'Montgomery' going to be allowed on this board Pyrrho?
For all I know, if it's Chester/Rollo, s/he'll be banned again, being a previously banned user. Pyrrho kicked that one out a while ago.
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scrmbldggs wrote:
Darren Wilshak wrote:How much longer is this sock puppet of Chester, 'Montgomery' going to be allowed on this board Pyrrho?
For all I know, if it's Chester/Rollo, s/he'll be banned again, being a previously banned user. Pyrrho kicked that one out a while ago.
No, this one is a RODOH poster. He’s no one’s sock puppet.
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Who is it then, who has been having shitz and giggles and behaving like a child? Rollo the Ganger IS a Rodoh poster.

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Re: March 1941: Nazis use humour to deny gassing the insane

Post by Darren Wilshak » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:39 pm

Reminds me of one Scott Smith used to have.

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Re: March 1941: Nazis use humour to deny gassing the insane

Post by Darren Wilshak » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:40 pm

If it is Rollo, or the Scarlet sock puppet Pimpernel its still a pretty funny send up of Been There he performed. That was quite classy really and actually something 'new' in the world of the hackneyed, the dull, the Nazi, the seen it all before. The bloody awful, The rodoh.

The been there, in fact.
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Re: March 1941: Nazis use humour to deny gassing the insane

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:41 pm

VFX posts as NSDAP at RODOH.
A joke going around Moscow during The Great Terror:

The NKVD knocks on a door.
The inhabitants ask who it is.
“NKVD.”
“You’ve got the wrong apartment. The Communists are upstairs.”

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Re: March 1941: Nazis use humour to deny gassing the insane

Post by Darren Wilshak » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:45 pm

Yeah I know that now, saw its old avatar. Its a cross between es chooch es chooch and Hackenholt performance engines, orientation-wise. Deeply immature as well.

its Monty I had me qualms about. But hey, there's no point in getting stressed about any of it.

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