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Monstrously bad news for Monstrous!

Postby Jeff_36 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:12 am

Jeff_36 has taken notice of one of Monstrous`s latest gambits. Of particular interest was the use of the mystery surrounding the fate of Seigmund Rothstien as a sad attempt to `prove`their ridiculous and increasingly discarded resettlement thesis.

As noted by some of my cohorts in the original thread on this topic, there are many issues with the Rothstien gambit. I will point out just a few.

1. There are four accounts of what happened to Mr. Rothstien

This has SR as being a resident of Berlin, deported from Berlin, to Tsdt, to TII and dying in TII on 9/26/42. The source is a memorial book of the Tsdt gehtto

This has SR as a resident of Mainstockheim, and having died in Minsk. No deportation date is given and no transport is listed. The source is the Yizkor book of the Kritzigen community.

This Has SR as having been born in Mainstockheim, but having resided in Berlin in 1942. He is described as having been deported to Tsdt on 4/8/42 and having been deported to TII on 9/26/42 and dying there on that date.. The source is "Victims of the Persecution of Jews under the National Socialist Tyranny in Germany 1933 - 1945" - I.E the Bundesarchive database I linked earlier.

This has SR as being from Mainstockheim, but residing in Berlin. He is stated as having been deported to Tsdt on Transport I/37 on 7/8/42. He is described as having been lost in Minsk, but no information is given on any transport from Tsdt to Minsk. The source is the Berlin Memorial Book that I am considering ordering. This is the only entry that mentions the number of the Berlin-Tsdt transport.

This is what we have. One man, four accounts of fate - two for Minsk and two for Treblinka.

None of the Treblinka accounts mention Rothstien being sent onward to Minsk and none of the Minsk accounts mention his having come from Treblinka. That is a contradiction that Monstrous cannot explain. He went to Minsk or to Treblinka, not both.

2. The travel itinerary of transports from Tsdt to Minsk did not take them through Treblinka - the primary stops were Siedlce and Bialystok, these schedules are known and are online for all to see. Additionally, there were no "switching of trains" in any of these transports.

Why is this relevant? Because it makes no sense at all to send Jews to Minsk from Terezin by way of Treblinka when they were sending them directly to Minsk with no stopovers at the same time.

3. Minsk is not a destination that deniers should wish to be fantasizing Jews as being deported to - the Jewish population of Minsk was being reduced at the time, and the Governor of White Ruthenia was on record as opposing any further transports to his territory. Additionally, contemporary sources from the local Nazi administration place the Jewish population of Minsk in particular and White Ruthenia in General as having decreased from the previous year (see here). This is the exact opposite of what one would expect from an area that in Monstrous's imagination was supposedly receiving hundreds of thousands of Jewish "resettlers". Explain that, go ahead little man, I {!#%@} dare you.

4. All of this is irrelevant because the Koherr Report stated that Jews sent to the Rienhard Camps were "not in ghettos or concentration camps". This eliminates any ghetto or camp in the east as a possible destination for any "resettled" Jews. Where then did they go Monstrous? Hotels? Ikea storerooms? Car Dealerships? Parking lots? Abandoned sawmills? Explain that. :lol:

5. The average age of the deportees on Transport Br was about 70. Some were in their mid 80's. What use would such old, decrepit people been for "labor"?

6. Did I mention Transport Br? Well, SM has looked at the manifest list for that transport, all 1000 names, and guess who was on it? Lots of people, but no one named Seigmind Rothstein. Rudolf exposes himself as an idiot who did not bother to do primary source based research. But the again, research is not really a denier thing - it's more or less the sole domain of people like myself. Rothstien did not show up on any of the other transport lists from Terezin to Treblinka either.

So there.


As for what happened to Mr Rothstien - we know that he was deported to Terezin from Berlin on Transport I/37. Two of his brothers died there. There is no record of him being deported anywhere else. It is possible that he was sent to Treblinka and someone on the platform thought the train went to Minsk or vice versa. Or he could very well have died at Terezin, like his brothers, and the account of him being sent to Treblinka arose out of confusion.

But we know he was not on Transport Br, and more importantly we know that Treblinka could not have been a stopover for any transports, especially, as proven above, ones from Terezin to Minsk.

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Re: Monstrously bad news for Monstrous!

Postby Jeff_36 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:30 pm

Bumped for Monstrous! Come out little man!

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Postby Jeff_36 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:12 pm

BUMP!!!!

COME OUT COME OUT WHEREVER YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Postby Jeff_36 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:23 pm

BUMPITY BUMPITY BUMP {!#%@}!!! YOU CAN'T HIDE FROM ME!

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Postby Jeff_36 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:13 am

BUMP

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BUMP

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Postby Jeff_36 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:14 am

I will Bump this thread continuously through the next 24 hours until Monstrous stops hiding under the couch.

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Postby Jeff_36 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:19 am

Easily the best Journey live performance that Jeff_36 has seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-7I1dRo7WQ

But where is Monstrous?!?!?!?!?

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Postby Jeff_36 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:30 am

:sinking: :lol:

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Postby Jeff_36 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:39 am

Jeff_36 has always been of the opinion that it is a misnomer to state that "Rock You Like a Hurricane" was the best song in the Scorpions discography. In reality they put out numerous tunes that were infinitely better: "In Trance", "Big City Nights", "No One Like You", "Pictured Life" and of course "The Zoo". This one right here has to be Jeff_36's personal favorite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEN8Bg57bFc

And in other news.......... Monstrous is still hiding!


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Postby Darren Wilshak » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:23 pm

When I first read the title of your thread Jeff_36 I thought you meant that his RODOH application has been a success.

lol

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Postby Jeff_36 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:49 pm

Bump

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Postby Jeff_36 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:59 pm

Bump!

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Re: Monstrously bad news for Monstrous!

Postby Darren Wilshak » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:50 pm

Monstrous only comes when Monstrous wants to come. Not when silly true believers think he should.

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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:51 pm

We've confused him with 2 threads on the same topic. But now he won't even return to the one he started. He's looking for photos of fat Jews instead.
"World peace is certainly an ideal worth striving for; in Hitler's opinion it will be realizable only when one power, the racially best one, has attained complete and uncontested supremacy. That can then provide a sort of world police, seeing to it at the same time that the most valuable race is guaranteed the necessary living space. And if no other way is open to them, the lower races will have to restrict themselves accordingly."

- Rudolf Hess, letter, 1927

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Postby Jeff_36 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:17 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:We've confused him with 2 threads on the same topic. But now he won't even return to the one he started. He's looking for photos of fat Jews instead.


Would a merger of threads be in order to elicit a response?

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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:18 am

He is not going to answer 1, 2, 3 or many threads. He has nothing to say.
"World peace is certainly an ideal worth striving for; in Hitler's opinion it will be realizable only when one power, the racially best one, has attained complete and uncontested supremacy. That can then provide a sort of world police, seeing to it at the same time that the most valuable race is guaranteed the necessary living space. And if no other way is open to them, the lower races will have to restrict themselves accordingly."

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Postby Jeff_36 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:50 am

Building on what was mentioned earlier, I feel compelled to list my top 5 favorite Scorpions songs in order

1. The Zoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aZwkXxrHdc

A slow, menacing buildup that leads to an explosive chorus, followed by a sizzling talkbox solo that would make Frampton lose his {!#%@}. What's not to like? A fantastic song.

2. Don't Believe Her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEN8Bg57bFc

IMO this was the True Highlight of 1990's severely underrated Crazy World. A slick, straightforward rocker, best enjoyed when driving far in excess of the speed limit en rout to anything.

3. In Trance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXat-xgaz4I
"Caus I'm in a Traaaaaaaaaaaaance, and baby tell me can't you hear me caaallin'". {!#%@} tremendous.

4. Blackout
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGPT1kfaSEs
A sparse, rapid track with a instantly memorable main riff, also a really great workout song.

5. Pictured Life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1dUfQHwN_w

Killer riffs, cowbell, psychadelic lyrics.....oh my this was rad.

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:lol: :roll: :cry: ;) ;) :lol:



...................................................But in all seriousness, WHERE IS MONSTROUS!!!!!!

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Re: Monstrously bad news for Monstrous!

Postby Jeff_36 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:50 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:He is not going to answer 1, 2, 3 or many threads. He has nothing to say.


This is frustrating.

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Postby Im_Not_Creative_Enough » Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:27 pm

INCE would also like to bump the post for Monstrous, and he will do so with a bunch of Red Hot Chilli Peppers jokes:

Q: Why did the RHCP cross the road?
A: because they were running away from the rehab clinic.

Q: What did the members of RHCP did when their bosses at the record company informed them that they were not pleased with the band's latest tracks?
A: They went and bought long sleeve shirts!

Q: What was the name of the knighthood-bearing British nobleman whom Anthony Kidies, lead singer for the RHCP, spent an afternoon with during his band's latest tour of the UK?
A: Sir Inge

Q: What is Anthony Kidies' favorite hobby?
A: Needle Point

Have you guys heard that Anthony Kidies has finally joined the Mile High Club? Yeah, he raped a women in Denver!

Q: What is the difference between the RHCP and Harriet Tubman?
A: Well, Harriet Tubman was a heroine to the slaves...
The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.

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Postby Jeff_36 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:57 am

Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:INCE would also like to bump the post for Monstrous, and he will do so with a bunch of Red Hot Chilli Peppers jokes:

Q: Why did the RHCP cross the road?
A: because they were running away from the rehab clinic.

Q: What did the members of RHCP did when their bosses at the record company informed them that they were not pleased with the band's latest tracks?
A: They went and bought long sleeve shirts!

Q: What was the name of the knighthood-bearing British nobleman whom Anthony Kidies, lead singer for the RHCP, spent an afternoon with during his band's latest tour of the UK?
A: Sir Inge

Q: What is Anthony Kidies' favorite hobby?
A: Needle Point

Have you guys heard that Anthony Kidies has finally joined the Mile High Club? Yeah, he raped a women in Denver!

Q: What is the difference between the RHCP and Harriet Tubman?
A: Well, Harriet Tubman was a heroine to the slaves...


All of these were hilarious. I told my boss (a big RHCP fan) them today and he laughed his ass off. I saw them in my hometown this past summer - they were ok. I think losing Frusciante really took wind out of their sails. The last great album they had was Stadium Arcadium and the two since have been shiite.

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Re: Monstrously bad news for Monstrous!

Postby Jeff_36 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:33 am

Hey Monstrous: Cash me ouside, howbow dah?

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Postby Jeff_36 » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:29 am

Bump

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Postby Jeff_36 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:42 am

bumped for monstrous!

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