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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:02 pm

I don't know where to place this post so here it goes: fasinating, appetite-whetting review of Mossad materials on the postwar hunt for Nazi war criminals:
The trouble was that the Nazi hunt was never truly a high priority for the Mossad’s directors. . . . Israeli prime ministers of the 1960s and ’70s — David Ben-Gurion, Levi Eshkol and Golda Meir — also showed signs of apathy as they focused on the here and now rather than the atrocities of the past. The only one truly interested in hunting Nazis was Begin, who considered himself an adamant Jewish nationalist standing up for his people. . . .

This internal Mossad study smashes a myth, rooted in public and media perceptions (think of works such as “Munich” or “The Debt” or “Eichmann in Jerusalem”), of Israeli spies as omniscient and omnipotent. After the Eichmann trial, with sensational testimony from Holocaust victims, people assumed that the Mossad would do everything in its power to trace, surveil and then capture or kill Nazis. The Mossad study honestly admits that didn’t happen. Spies did not turn over every stone and chase down every lead across the world. They had other problems.

The secret agency dropped the whole matter after one final, fruitless tracking mission in 1991, and the hunt for Nazi war criminals was over, according to the report. All in all, it yielded one war criminal (Eichmann) captured, one (Cukurs) assassinated and one (Brunner) injured. That is three out of 11 wanted men — an astonishingly low success rate for a nation that pulled off the destruction of nuclear reactors in Iraq and Syria, the Stuxnet virus that derailed Iran’s nuclear enrichment program, the assassination of Palestinian and Hezbollah terrorists, and other cloak-and-dagger successes.
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Post by NathanC » Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:25 pm

The trouble was that the Nazi hunt was never truly a high priority for the Mossad’s directors. . . . Israeli prime ministers of the 1960s and ’70s — David Ben-Gurion, Levi Eshkol and Golda Meir — also showed signs of apathy as they focused on the here and now rather than the atrocities of the past. The only one truly interested in hunting Nazis was Begin, who considered himself an adamant Jewish nationalist standing up for his people. . . .


I'd say that this undermines the popular stereotype of Jews alleged "obsession" with the Holocaust. It's part of their history, and their remembrance is no different from any other people's remembrance of past events that shaped their lives.

This internal Mossad study smashes a myth, rooted in public and media perceptions (think of works such as “Munich” or “The Debt” or “Eichmann in Jerusalem”), of Israeli spies as omniscient and omnipotent. After the Eichmann trial, with sensational testimony from Holocaust victims, people assumed that the Mossad would do everything in its power to trace, surveil and then capture or kill Nazis. The Mossad study honestly admits that didn’t happen. Spies did not turn over every stone and chase down every lead across the world. They had other problems.


I don't think this person really watched or understood "Munich". I watched it once as part of a film analysis project in my first year of College, and while I didn't have the life experience and exposure that I do now, I understood that the movie was highly critical of the Mossad and depicted them as flailing about with blind luck. Far from how this author describes what the movie was about.

Anyway, this sounds like really old news. I mentioned some time ago that I watched a movie called "The People Vs. Fritz Bauer." It naturally shows that the Frankfurt Prosecutor Fritz Bauer had a much, much larger force in Eichmann's capture and was the driving force behind it, rather than the Mossad. The Mossad chief in that movie (his name escapes me) pretty much says the bolded part word for word: Their duty is to the Living Jews of Israel, not the dead. Bettina Stagneth mentioned this in her book about Eichmann, and even Segev touched upon it in the late 80s/early 90s. This is how the real world works; "The Jews" are not more powerful and actually have limited resources, and need to focus on more immediate concerns (such as Israel's enemies) rather than past injustices, like everybody else. Too much for Right wing and Left Wing Antisemites to understand.

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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:15 pm

I think a denier answer to the above would be that this then proves the Holocaust is a "hoax," after all, if it happened then the Mossad would've devoted massive resources in finding and dispensing justice to the murderers of their people.

All it really shows us is the priorities of any intelligence service. With Israel surrounded by enemies it made far more sense to deal with real threats than chasing down and dispensing justice to the random Nazis who escaped justice.
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:17 pm

Jeffk 1970 wrote:I think a denier answer to the above would be that this then proves the Holocaust is a "hoax," after all, if it happened then the Mossad would've devoted massive resources in finding and dispensing justice to the murderers of their people.

Which contradicts their claims of a hoax. For surely the Mossad would been fabricating, tarting up, forging, forcing confessions, substituting "crisis" perps, and hoaxing up a storm.
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Post by Jeff_36 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:13 pm

Statistical Mechanic wrote:. For surely the Mossad would been fabricating, tarting up, forging, forcing confessions, substituting "crisis" perps, and hoaxing up a storm.


as well as attempting to assassinate Scott Smith, and stalking RalphGordon in public libraries across the Australian outback.....

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Post by Darren Wilshak » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:41 pm

Good one, especially on Ralph "Holocaust Agnostic" Gordon, his paranoid witterings at rodoh 1 posted from public libraries still make me laugh. Tai Chi Min H the Red had some fun with him.

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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:56 pm

LOL
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Post by Jeff_36 » Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:31 am

Darren Wilshak wrote:Good one, especially on Ralph "Holocaust Agnostic" Gordon, his paranoid witterings at rodoh 1 posted from public libraries still make me laugh. Tai Chi Min H the Red had some fun with him.

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His "I am pressed for time" rant was an absolute classic. At least Breivik could form sentences.....

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Post by Balmoral95 » Tue Sep 26, 2017 5:05 am

Jeff_36 wrote:
Darren Wilshak wrote:Good one, especially on Ralph "Holocaust Agnostic" Gordon, his paranoid witterings at rodoh 1 posted from public libraries still make me laugh. Tai Chi Min H the Red had some fun with him.

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His "I am pressed for time" rant was an absolute classic. At least Breivik could form sentences.....


Ralph is a very formulaic thinker.... by his own admission. Had he been in charge at Wansee, the conference would have lasted until 1955.

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Post by NathanC » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:25 pm

Not "Jewish Conspiracy" per se, but definitely related to the subject, of claims about a postwar Allied (Particularly American) conspiracy to "fabricate" the Holocaust.

UN Security Council Resolution 138, 1960

I discovered not too long ago that while Eishenhower was president, the US voted in favor of a UN security council resolution that condemned Israel for Abducting Adolf Eichmann from Argentina. This is very significant in that Eisenhower was, in the words of another critical thinker, the Man who Liberated the Camps and laid them bare before the whole world. His famous "We know what we are fighting against" is still quoted to this day, rightly. Clearly, by the 60s, his priorities had changed. Far from "feeling sorry for the Jews", especially after he saw firsthand the atrocities against them in WW2, his new priority was in line with that of the West German Govt, of keeping the lid on Nazis like Eichmann who always had the risk of exposing his buddies in prominent positions in the West German Government.

Also relevant was Operation Ajax not long before this UN resolution, when the US and UK overthrew Mohammed Mossadegh and installed a pro western government in Iran. An interesting detail was who Eisenhower and the CIA selected to replace Mossadegh as the prime minister. That would be one Fazlollah Zahedi, who in WW2 collaborated with the Nazis and conspired with them to overthrow the British. He was jailed for this during the war, but Eisenhower, Allen Dulles, and more importantly, Churchill, had zero problem burying the hatchet and using one of their old enemies. If I'm not mistaken, the guy who headed Iran's intelligence service in the new government was also a Nazi Collaborator, one of Goebbels' students. There's quite an interesting exchange between Zahedi and Churchill here.

http://www.mohammadmossadegh.com/news/c ... ages-1953/

In summary, no. There was no postwar Jewish or Anglo American conspiracy to "fabricate" the Holocaust. And the Holocaust and its aftermath did not drive or determine American Foreign Policy. The actions of Truman and more importantly, Ike, showed exactly how much the Holocaust affected them psychologically and shaped their foreign policies - ZERO. Eisenhower and Churchill were neither controlled by nor motivated by Sympathy for the Jews or their alleged "hatred" of Germany during WW2. Much like Ben Gurion and Golda Mier, they had other things to worry about after.

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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:34 pm

interesting stuff, of which I was not aware, thanks
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Post by Balsamo » Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:40 pm

NathanC:

I discovered not too long ago that while Eishenhower was president, the US voted in favor of a UN security council resolution that condemned Israel for Abducting Adolf Eichmann from Argentina. This is very significant in that Eisenhower was, in the words of another critical thinker, the Man who Liberated the Camps and laid them bare before the whole world. His famous "We know what we are fighting against" is still quoted to this day, rightly. Clearly, by the 60s, his priorities had changed. Far from "feeling sorry for the Jews", especially after he saw firsthand the atrocities against them in WW2, his new priority was in line with that of the West German Govt, of keeping the lid on Nazis like Eichmann who always had the risk of exposing his buddies in prominent positions in the West German Government.


Actually, it is the Republic of Argentina, by then a US ally, that complained for the violation of her sovereignty.
But you are right, back then, the relation between Israel and the USA were clearly not those that exist today.
It maybe forgotten today, but the first real allies of Israel - let's say, within the first years after the independence, were France and mostly Stalin's USRR. This creates a cold with the USA - for obvious reasons - that lasted a couple of years, even after that alliance effectively vanished in the early 50's, the USSR having chosen later to support Egypt.
So the USA, far from considering Israel as a reliable ally, chose to "invest" in an alliance with Iran, implying of course the removal of Mossadeq who dared nationalizing "our" oil. In fine, it will lead to the Shah's dictatorship in which the USA invested billions - a loss in 1979 that is yet not swallowed by the USA, i might add.

You are right to point out the Ike's priority on good relation with Germany, because the threat was precisely the USRR.

But then, to conclude that the USA kind of tried to protect Eichmann for not upsetting the German government is far fetched, in my opinion, or to be more precise, such conclusion is a bit like playing with cause and effects. But they were clearly not ready to allow a not yet ally Israel to do what it pleased, even when hunting Nazis...that is about it. There were way too much Nazis working for the USA in the US. and anyway, there were no reason why the tandem USA and Great Britain would have special feelings for the Jewish State at that time, especially the later.

Operation Ajax was a whole 6 years before the UN resolution, and Great Britain was involved as well, of course, as it was actually "its oil". None of them are known for selecting their "puppets" according to "moral values and humanist beliefs". Only the efficiency of the candidate and the results matter. (Operation paperclip?)
As for Zahedi, he was, as Mossadeq's minister of the Interior, essential in achieving the "coup". No more question asked. His past was of non importance, and anyway. it would have been difficult to find a prominent Iranian politician who really had supported the occupation of the British during the war... So most in the Middle East region, and not only in Iran, tended to support the Nazis, not out of Nazi convictions - although their kind of shared their hatred of the Jews, but because they were at war with Great Britain, seen as an occupier and a thief.

There was no postwar Jewish or Anglo American conspiracy to "fabricate" the Holocaust.


Of course not! :lol:
Even Israel, in those day, once the independence granted, did not want to dig further openly.

And the Holocaust and its aftermath did not drive or determine American Foreign Policy.


Clearly not.
There will be a switch of attitude though, but later.

But then, who says that except for a few lunatics?

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Post by Jeff_36 » Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:51 am

Balsamo wrote:It maybe forgotten today, but the first real allies of Israel - let's say, within the first years after the independence, were France and mostly Stalin's USRR.


It is true that the Adhut H'Avoda party was Pro-Soviet, as was Mapam/Hasmomer Hatazier. However, the ruling Mapai Party was deeply ambivalent towards the USSR and the opposition Herut Party was openly hostile. Ben-Gurion initially was happy about Soviet recognition of Israel in 1948 but was too conscious about the need for American assistance to throw in either way. He initially presented Israel as a non-aligned state, but after Stalin started persecuting Jews in the late 40's he broke off completely from any facade of neutrality. Adhut H'Avoda renounced the USSR after the Salansky Trial in 1952, and Mapam followed suit after Khrushchev's 1956 speech.

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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:39 pm

I find this deeply disturbing:

https://redice.tv/news/russia-launches-investigation-into-whether-nicholas-ii-and-family-were-killed-as-part-of-jewish-ritual-murder?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

I follow the putz “redice” just to needle him now and again.

It’s no secret that Russia has a deep, troubling past with antisemitism. Considering what is going on in Europe now this cannot help.

The order to execute the Czar and his family came from Lenin who was not a Jew. The name of the actual killer was Yakov Yurovsky. In a rather odd development, he converted to Lutheranism so he wasn’t a religious Jew at the time of the murders.

According to two of the sources I found, the man himself expressed remorse over the killings:

http://www.politicsforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24752

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_Yurovsky

It bugs the crap out me to see this, it just proves things will suck far worse before they get better.
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Post by Im_Not_Creative_Enough » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:02 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg8lF5n1W7k

When I see a youtube video that is just a trailer for a pretty bad-looking-show, but nothing more, that has a comment section that is 100% filled with anti-semetic comments about (((JOOZ))) pushing (((degeneracy))) into western media (even though that show itself seems to have nothing to do with Judaism), I begin to wonder if -
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B. This specific video was shared on The Daily Stormer or /pol/, which explains why so many of them have flocked here.
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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:52 am

Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg8lF5n1W7k

When I see a youtube video that is just a trailer for a pretty bad-looking-show, but nothing more, that has a comment section that is 100% filled with anti-semetic comments about (((JOOZ))) pushing (((degeneracy))) into western media (even though that show itself seems to have nothing to do with Judaism), I begin to wonder if -
A. the alt-righters so strong in numbers, that they dominate even such tiny obscure videos
or
B. This specific video was shared on The Daily Stormer or /pol/, which explains why so many of them have flocked here.


Looks like a rather typical Showtime, HBO, Cinemax, etc. drama with probably a lot of gratuitous sex and nudity. Bleh.
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Jeffk 1970 wrote:According to two of the sources I found, the man himself [Yurovsky] expressed remorse over the killings:

http://www.politicsforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24752
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_Yurovsky

Your 2nd source [wiki] states:

In 1920, a British officer who met Yurovsky recorded that he was remorseful over his role in the execution of the Romanovs

Wiki's source for that assertion is a short text written by Greg King.

Your 1st source turns out to be the same Greg King text, C&P onto a forum!

Greg King wrote:

In the aftermath of the execution, Yurovsky gathered his wife and children and fled to Moscow, where he worked for a time in the Kremlin, ironically cataloging the former jewels and personal possessions of the family he had killed. By 1920 he was back in Ekaterinburg, installed in a house whose windows looked across Voznesensky Prospekt to the Ipatiev House itself. Despite his leading role in the execution, Yurovsky found himself avoided and scorned, even by the most hardened revolutionaries. Fearful of vengeance, Yurovsky rarely left his house; when he did, he wore a long coat and a hat pulled low over his face to avoid recognition. A British officer who met him at the time recorded that, even within two years of the massacre, the man who had led the execution squad was filled with "remorse and horror" at having murdered the Imperial Family.

http://www.alexanderpalace.org/2006yurovsky/

King's "British officer" is obviously Francis McCullagh, who wrote:

Yurovsky and Goloshokin returned to Ekaterinburg three days afterwards [i.e.: after taking the Romanovs' bodies away in trucks and burning them], both of them in such a state of extreme exhaustion that they had to go at once to bed. Yurovsky was apparently satisfied that he had left not a trace of the bodies in existence, but he has since developed an intense fear of vengeance. This dread of future vengeance, mixed perhaps with feelings of remorse and horror, and the dreadful consciousness of having committed a crime which has placed him apart for ever from all other men, has been the predominant trait in his character ever since. . . . " The Man who murdered the Tsar." . . . Till the day of his death he will hear these words whispered as he passes people in the street. In restaurants and public places men and women will make way for him with a readiness savouring of panic. Children will look at him speechless and round-eyed, and he will think of that gentle crippled boy of fourteen weltering in blood on the cellar floor. Innocent girls will shudder when they meet his eye, and he will see the limp, white corpses of those four young women who never did him any harm. He can never talk again to any human being who knows him without reading in their eye an unspoken query. I feel sure of this, for I have talked to him myself.

- Francis McCullagh, A Prisoner of the Reds: The Story of a British Officer Captured in Siberia, London: John Murray, 1921, pp.141-142.
https://archive.org/stream/prisonerofredsst00mccuuoft#page/140/mode/2up

McCullagh details his brief meeting with Yurovsky on pages 146-152, but states:

"I got no information on the [Romanovs'] murder from him during the whole course of this strange interview."

"He told me incidentally that the first post he had held in Ekaterinburg when he returned to it was that of President of the Extraordinary Commission, and he said that in that capacity he had put to death sixty White suspects. "What are sixty men?" he asked contemptuously, and this terrible question made me suddenly realize what I was beginning to forget, that I was in the lair of a human tiger, that I was face to face with a devil incarnate."

"But though Yurovsky speaks lightly of large numbers done to death, he cannot bear to speak of the eleven deaths about which I was anxious to get details. He always referred to his Imperial victim as the " Autocrat," and a baleful light came into his eyes every time he used the word."


Jeffk 1970 wrote:the man himself expressed remorse over the killings

No he didn't.

Jeffk 1970 wrote:I took the time one day to track down and fact check his endnotes.

Pity you don't check your own.
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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:36 am

BRoI wrote:According to two of the sources I found, the man himself [Yurovsky] expressed remorse over the killings:


Wow, wabbit, I wrote that back in November. You should stay on top of things.

Your 1st source turns out to be the same Greg King text, C&P onto a forum!


Holy crap, it’s like you found the Holy Grail!!!!!!! Absolutely stunning and magnificent!!!!!!!!!!!!!

King's "British officer" is obviously Francis McCullagh, who wrote:


Obviously. Duh.


Yurovsky and Goloshokin returned to Ekaterinburg three days afterwards [i.e.: after taking the Romanovs' bodies away in trucks and burning them], both of them in such a state of extreme exhaustion that they had to go at once to bed. Yurovsky was apparently satisfied that he had left not a trace of the bodies in existence, but he has since developed an intense fear of vengeance. This dread of future vengeance, mixed perhaps with feelings of remorse and horror, and the dreadful consciousness of having committed a crime which has placed him apart for ever from all other men, has been the predominant trait in his character ever since. . . . " The Man who murdered the Tsar." . . . Till the day of his death he will hear these words whispered as he passes people in the street. In restaurants and public places men and women will make way for him with a readiness savouring of panic. Children will look at him speechless and round-eyed, and he will think of that gentle crippled boy of fourteen weltering in blood on the cellar floor. Innocent girls will shudder when they meet his eye, and he will see the limp, white corpses of those four young women who never did him any harm. He can never talk again to any human being who knows him without reading in their eye an unspoken query. I feel sure of this, for I have talked to him myself.


Wow, that’s poetic. You know, I enjoy those who write well. I mean, look at that, it’s like watching a river of words.

- Francis McCullagh, A Prisoner of the Reds: The Story of a British Officer Captured in Siberia, London: John Murray, 1921, pp.141-142.
https://archive.org/stream/prisonerofredsst00mccuuoft#page/140/mode/2up


Thanks for the book. I’ll work it in when I get a chance, but damnit, Rabbit, I’ve already got a backlog.

McCullagh details his brief meeting with Yurovsky on pages 146-152, but states:

I got no information on the [Romanovs'] murder from him during the whole course of this strange interview.


I wonder why that might be.......

"He told me incidentally that the first post he had held in Ekaterinburg when he returned to it was that of President of the Extraordinary Commission, and he said that in that capacity he had put to death sixty White suspects. "What are sixty men?" he asked contemptuously, and this terrible question made me suddenly realize what I was beginning to forget, that I was in the lair of a human tiger, that I was face to face with a devil incarnate."


Well, obviously that means he was nothing more than a bloodthirsty Jew, reveling in the brutal massacre of the Tsar and his family. The really important part is, of course, he was a Jew. That’s the important part, right, eh, Rabbit?

"But though Yurovsky speaks lightly of large numbers done to death, he cannot bear to speak of the eleven deaths about which I was anxious to get details.


Now, why might that be? If he thought nothing of the execution of 60 White suspects, all men, why could he not speak of the murder of a bunch of “autocrats?”

He always referred to his Imperial victim


As in “singular.”

as the " Autocrat," and a baleful light came into his eyes every time he used the word."


Yet he refused to talk about it, refused to give details.....


Jeffk 1970 wrote:the man himself expressed remorse over the killings.
No he didn't.


Yet your author says:

This dread of future vengeance, mixed perhaps with feelings of horror and remorse.....

Haunted with the curse of murder...”does he hear voices?” I seriously asked myself, after seeing him.

Everyone who knew him told me the same thing, that he had a morbid dislike of saying anything on the subject: a look of horror crosses his face when anyone references it, and he becomes perfectly silent.


And so on...

I took the time one day to track down and fact check his endnotes.
Pity you don't check your own.


What was it about my comment that pissed you off, Rabbit? That I disparaged Wear or Hoggan?
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Re: The Jewish Conspiracies thread (aka "Achtung Juden*!")

Post by BRoI » Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:02 pm

What are you Jeff, 12 next birthday?

Well, obviously that means he was nothing more than a bloodthirsty Jew, reveling in the brutal massacre of the Tsar and his family. The really important part is, of course, he was a Jew. That’s the important part, right, eh, Rabbit?


If you'd bothered reading your source, you'd have seen that King claims Yurovsky was never a Jew. If you'd looked at King's book, you'd have seen that Yurovsky was supposedly an outspoken anti-semitie by the time he was 8.

This information seemingly comes from Yurovsky's unpublished memoirs, written in 1922.

To King, and whoever wrote the Yurovsky memoirs, "the really important part is, of course, he was [not] a Jew".
"I believe that when the history of the [Great] war comes to be impartially written, the two greatest results will be the establishment of the national Jewish home and the creation of the League of Nations. The two are not really disconnected. They represent the two great ideas for which we fought and by which we conquered—the ideas of nationalism and internationalism."
- Robert Cecil, 1st Viscount Cecil of Chelwood, March 1923.

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Re: The Jewish Conspiracies thread (aka "Achtung Juden*!")

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:39 pm

BRoI wrote:What are you Jeff, 12 next birthday?



We can share a birthday party, Rabbit, once you get out of your terrible twos.
Asked to explain why they hate Jews, anti-Semites contradict themselves. Jews are always showing off; they are hermetic and secretive. They will not assimilate; they assimilate only too well. They are too religious; they are too materialistic, and a threat to religion. They are uncultured; they have too much culture. They avoid manual work; they work too hard. They are miserly; they are ostentatious spenders. They are inveterate capitalists; they are born Communists. And so on.

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Re: The Jewish Conspiracies thread (aka "Achtung Juden*!")

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:11 pm

Jeffk 1970 wrote:I find this deeply disturbing:

https://redice.tv/news/russia-launches- ... um=twitter

I follow the putz “redice” just to needle him now and again.

It’s no secret that Russia has a deep, troubling past with antisemitism. Considering what is going on in Europe now this cannot help.

The order to execute the Czar and his family came from Lenin who was not a Jew. The name of the actual killer was Yakov Yurovsky. In a rather odd development, he converted to Lutheranism so he wasn’t a religious Jew at the time of the murders.

According to two of the sources I found, the man himself expressed remorse over the killings:

http://www.politicsforum.org/forum/view ... hp?t=24752

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_Yurovsky

It bugs the crap out me to see this, it just proves things will suck far worse before they get better.

Kotkin states that no order from Lenin to murder the Czar was ever found. Kotkin says that Trotsky in his diary said the order to murder the Czar came from Lenin and Yakov Sverdlov. Sverdlov was a Jew which I’m sure will make some who sneak on here very happy.

http://spartacus-educational.com/RUSsverdlov.htm

https://russiapedia.rt.com/prominent-ru ... -sverdlov/

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ya ... h-Sverdlov

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/1 ... r-o05.html

Sverdlov died rather early on under somewhat mysterious circumstances. Most of the above agreed he died due to disease though one mentions that a worker struck him.
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Re: The Jewish Conspiracies thread (aka "Achtung Juden*!")

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:33 pm

In reference to the above, Kotkin believes that Sverdlov died of disease, either typhus or influenza.
Asked to explain why they hate Jews, anti-Semites contradict themselves. Jews are always showing off; they are hermetic and secretive. They will not assimilate; they assimilate only too well. They are too religious; they are too materialistic, and a threat to religion. They are uncultured; they have too much culture. They avoid manual work; they work too hard. They are miserly; they are ostentatious spenders. They are inveterate capitalists; they are born Communists. And so on.

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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:37 pm

Comintern Congress:
A survey showed that Jews made up 17% of the members with the largest group being Russians (Kotkin, Page 278 Kindle edition).
9th Party Congress:
Numbers of Jews declined to 14.5% of the delegates with the Russians increasing to 70%.
Asked to explain why they hate Jews, anti-Semites contradict themselves. Jews are always showing off; they are hermetic and secretive. They will not assimilate; they assimilate only too well. They are too religious; they are too materialistic, and a threat to religion. They are uncultured; they have too much culture. They avoid manual work; they work too hard. They are miserly; they are ostentatious spenders. They are inveterate capitalists; they are born Communists. And so on.

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Re: The Jewish Conspiracies thread (aka "Achtung Juden*!")

Post by Im_Not_Creative_Enough » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:39 pm

Well, that's a first.

I think I've just discovered the world's first ever REVERSE Jewish conspiracy theory. This time, instead of the evil Jooz controlling all of the white races, the Jews are the ones being ontrolled BY the white races, in order to be canon fodder for the Chinese (?). Here's the full version:
  You're no threat to us. Just a nuisance we finally decided to put in a camp in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by barbarians on all sides. That your people went there willingly is a goddamn mystery to me. Have you ever wondered why the architects of your meme country is nowhere near it? They're sitting in comfy mansions in Europe, and a few unlucky tossers were assigned to the US. They are OUR puppets, using YOU in order to have a beach head into the East; and control over vital resources and trade lanes in the area. We pay you money, you pay with your blood. We win, you lose.
This pill is probably gonna get me banned, but hey.. You've been told that your people are the most intelligent race in the world, right? Do you not find this odd, considering the amount of inbreeding that has plagued your gene pool since forever? It's a lie. A very insidious, maybe even evil, lie. A lie designed to give you a sense of superiority, to make you complacent, to make you believe you have the answers - the knowledge - the goyim do not. To make you man our fortified outpost smack in the middle of hostile territory, without you having the need to ask "for who?".
Get out of your glorified prison or not, it's up to you. The clock is ticking though. Your idiot at the helm is about to start a war you can't win, so that we can stop the Chinese from spreading into Europe - by permanently destabilizing the whole goddamn region. :(  
Gotta admit, I thought that antisemites will never surprise me again. Looks like I haven't seen anything.
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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:42 pm

Well, that’s a new one...
Asked to explain why they hate Jews, anti-Semites contradict themselves. Jews are always showing off; they are hermetic and secretive. They will not assimilate; they assimilate only too well. They are too religious; they are too materialistic, and a threat to religion. They are uncultured; they have too much culture. They avoid manual work; they work too hard. They are miserly; they are ostentatious spenders. They are inveterate capitalists; they are born Communists. And so on.

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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:42 pm

Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:Well, that's a first.

I think I've just discovered the world's first ever REVERSE Jewish conspiracy theory. This time, instead of the evil Jooz controlling all of the white races, the Jews are the ones being ontrolled BY the white races, in order to be canon fodder for the Chinese (?). Here's the full version:
  You're no threat to us. Just a nuisance we finally decided to put in a camp in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by barbarians on all sides. That your people went there willingly is a goddamn mystery to me. Have you ever wondered why the architects of your meme country is nowhere near it? They're sitting in comfy mansions in Europe, and a few unlucky tossers were assigned to the US. They are OUR puppets, using YOU in order to have a beach head into the East; and control over vital resources and trade lanes in the area. We pay you money, you pay with your blood. We win, you lose.
This pill is probably gonna get me banned, but hey.. You've been told that your people are the most intelligent race in the world, right? Do you not find this odd, considering the amount of inbreeding that has plagued your gene pool since forever? It's a lie. A very insidious, maybe even evil, lie. A lie designed to give you a sense of superiority, to make you complacent, to make you believe you have the answers - the knowledge - the goyim do not. To make you man our fortified outpost smack in the middle of hostile territory, without you having the need to ask "for who?".
Get out of your glorified prison or not, it's up to you. The clock is ticking though. Your idiot at the helm is about to start a war you can't win, so that we can stop the Chinese from spreading into Europe - by permanently destabilizing the whole goddamn region. :(  
Gotta admit, I thought that antisemites will never surprise me again. Looks like I haven't seen anything.

YouTube?
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Re: The Jewish Conspiracies thread (aka "Achtung Juden*!")

Post by Im_Not_Creative_Enough » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:44 pm

Judt a comment from Paul Joseph Watson's most recent video. The video itself isn't really relevant.
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Post by montgomery » Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:00 am

Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:Judt a comment from Paul Joseph Watson's most recent video. The video itself isn't really relevant.
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Just ignore him/her/it, INCE. I'm sure the PMHNs will be in control again soon.
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Re: The Jewish Conspiracies thread (aka "Achtung Juden*!")

Post by VFX » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:41 am

Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:I haven't seen anything like it on the Conspiracies subforum, so I thought to open one in here, as Holocaust Denial and Jewish conspiracies are basically inseperable. You sorta have to accept an evil Jewish shadow goverment if you want to accept that there was no Holocaust
In your lack of knowledge there are two holocausts: the Shoah and the Russian Great Patriotic War: 1 million against 30 million deaths. The Russians give lip service to the Shoah only, most Russians think it is a Zionist stunt, as do we.
We fully accept the Russian holocaust as well as the German one of 4 million dead. We accept a million Jews perished: which in a war where 70 million died is insignificant. The Jews have bankrupted the holocaust claim, their day of getting free money is over. Mr Netanyahu said this.

The world monetary system is Jewish inspired, which is why the EU and Russia are working to abrogate themselves from this: this is the basis of the US economy. This economy style is responsible for global destruction of the planet to the ponzi requirement on growth. Their time is also now over.
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Re: The Jewish Conspiracies thread (aka "Achtung Juden*!")

Post by Im_Not_Creative_Enough » Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:55 pm

VFX wrote:
Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:I haven't seen anything like it on the Conspiracies subforum, so I thought to open one in here, as Holocaust Denial and Jewish conspiracies are basically inseperable. You sorta have to accept an evil Jewish shadow goverment if you want to accept that there was no Holocaust
In your lack of knowledge there are two holocausts: the Shoah and the Russian Great Patriotic War: 1 million against 30 million deaths. The Russians give lip service to the Shoah only, most Russians think it is a Zionist stunt, as do we.
We fully accept the Russian holocaust as well as the German one of 4 million dead. We accept a million Jews perished: which in a war where 70 million died is insignificant. The Jews have bankrupted the holocaust claim, their day of getting free money is over. Mr Netanyahu said this.

The world monetary system is Jewish inspired, which is why the EU and Russia are working to abrogate themselves from this: this is the basis of the US economy. This economy style is responsible for global destruction of the planet to the ponzi requirement on growth. Their time is also now over.
You ARE aware that usually when people say "The Holocaust" they reffer to the "Shoah", right? Same way many people who say the words "liberal" actually mean "proggressive", even thse are two different things.
Belive me, there's no "lack of knowledge" on my side. I don't need for you the explain the Eastern Front (or, as you call it, "the Great Patriotic War". Seriously? I'm from a Russian family and even we stopped using this name like 28 years ago), as my great grandfather got kileld in it.
So what's the point of you comment is, excatly?
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Post by montgomery » Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:25 pm

VFX wrote:
Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote: We fully accept the Russian holocaust as well as the German one of 4 million dead. We accept a million Jews perished: which in a war where 70 million died is insignificant.
If those numbers are correct than would that be proportionally correct for corresponding number, population wise?

I'm just a rank beginner who is learning, as the holocaust promotion side keeps reminding in their impolite ways, but I'm beginning to find information on the number of Jewish people who survived the war is being claimed to be much larger than it should be. Maybe the 'promotion' side would have some reliable figures too?

Decency and politeness from them would go a long way toward being able to accept their stories!

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Post by Im_Not_Creative_Enough » Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:33 pm

montgomery wrote:
VFX wrote:
Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote: We fully accept the Russian holocaust as well as the German one of 4 million dead. We accept a million Jews perished: which in a war where 70 million died is insignificant.
If those numbers are correct than would that be proportionally correct for corresponding number, population wise?

I'm just a rank beginner who is learning, as the holocaust promotion side keeps reminding in their impolite ways, but I'm beginning to find information on the number of Jewish people who survived the war is being claimed to be much larger than it should be. Maybe the 'promotion' side would have some reliable figures too?

Decency and politeness from them would go a long way toward being able to accept their stories!
Why did you quote me quoting him? Who's comment are you addressing?
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Post by montgomery » Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:54 pm

Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:
montgomery wrote:
VFX wrote:
Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote: We fully accept the Russian holocaust as well as the German one of 4 million dead. We accept a million Jews perished: which in a war where 70 million died is insignificant.
If those numbers are correct than would that be proportionally correct for corresponding number, population wise?

I'm just a rank beginner who is learning, as the holocaust promotion side keeps reminding in their impolite ways, but I'm beginning to find information on the number of Jewish people who survived the war is being claimed to be much larger than it should be. Maybe the 'promotion' side would have some reliable figures too?

Decency and politeness from them would go a long way toward being able to accept their stories!
Why did you quote me quoting him? Who's comment are you addressing?
Sorry about that but I'm still not used to this format. And I'm not being especially careful about it because it just doesn't matter all that much when others are actually making up words and phrases and attributing those to me in a dishonest way.

If you feel you want to answer my questions even when you're not asked, go right ahead. I'm capable of weighing the evidence from both sides.

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Post by Im_Not_Creative_Enough » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:14 pm

montgomery wrote:
Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:
montgomery wrote:
VFX wrote:
Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote: We fully accept the Russian holocaust as well as the German one of 4 million dead. We accept a million Jews perished: which in a war where 70 million died is insignificant.
If those numbers are correct than would that be proportionally correct for corresponding number, population wise?

I'm just a rank beginner who is learning, as the holocaust promotion side keeps reminding in their impolite ways, but I'm beginning to find information on the number of Jewish people who survived the war is being claimed to be much larger than it should be. Maybe the 'promotion' side would have some reliable figures too?

Decency and politeness from them would go a long way toward being able to accept their stories!
Why did you quote me quoting him? Who's comment are you addressing?
Sorry about that but I'm still not used to this format. And I'm not being especially careful about it because it just doesn't matter all that much when others are actually making up words and phrases and attributing those to me in a dishonest way.

If you feel you want to answer my questions even when you're not asked, go right ahead. I'm capable of weighing the evidence from both sides.
What questions?
This is a thread about Jewish conspiracy theories, and it happens to be my "baby". Do you have anuy questions regarding that matter?
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Post by montgomery » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:32 pm

Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:
montgomery wrote:
Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:
montgomery wrote:
VFX wrote:
Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote: We fully accept the Russian holocaust as well as the German one of 4 million dead. We accept a million Jews perished: which in a war where 70 million died is insignificant.
If those numbers are correct than would that be proportionally correct for corresponding number, population wise?

I'm just a rank beginner who is learning, as the holocaust promotion side keeps reminding in their impolite ways, but I'm beginning to find information on the number of Jewish people who survived the war is being claimed to be much larger than it should be. Maybe the 'promotion' side would have some reliable figures too?

Decency and politeness from them would go a long way toward being able to accept their stories!
Why did you quote me quoting him? Who's comment are you addressing?
Sorry about that but I'm still not used to this format. And I'm not being especially careful about it because it just doesn't matter all that much when others are actually making up words and phrases and attributing those to me in a dishonest way.

If you feel you want to answer my questions even when you're not asked, go right ahead. I'm capable of weighing the evidence from both sides.
What questions?
This is a thread about Jewish conspiracy theories, and it happens to be my "baby". Do you have anuy questions regarding that matter?
I detect that you're just interested in being rude and I've already got enough of that. YOU figure out the obvious questions I referred to and get back to me.

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Post by Im_Not_Creative_Enough » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:37 pm

montgomery wrote:
Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:
montgomery wrote:
Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote:
montgomery wrote:
VFX wrote:
Im_Not_Creative_Enough wrote: We fully accept the Russian holocaust as well as the German one of 4 million dead. We accept a million Jews perished: which in a war where 70 million died is insignificant.
If those numbers are correct than would that be proportionally correct for corresponding number, population wise?

I'm just a rank beginner who is learning, as the holocaust promotion side keeps reminding in their impolite ways, but I'm beginning to find information on the number of Jewish people who survived the war is being claimed to be much larger than it should be. Maybe the 'promotion' side would have some reliable figures too?

Decency and politeness from them would go a long way toward being able to accept their stories!
Why did you quote me quoting him? Who's comment are you addressing?
Sorry about that but I'm still not used to this format. And I'm not being especially careful about it because it just doesn't matter all that much when others are actually making up words and phrases and attributing those to me in a dishonest way.

If you feel you want to answer my questions even when you're not asked, go right ahead. I'm capable of weighing the evidence from both sides.
What questions?
This is a thread about Jewish conspiracy theories, and it happens to be my "baby". Do you have anuy questions regarding that matter?
I detect that you're just interested in being rude and I've already got enough of that. YOU figure out the obvious questions I referred to and get back to me.
I literally had no intention other than understand what your questions are.

Oh well, since you called "rude" anyway, I might as well just go with the flow: Jeez, I've seen Kikes who weren't as easily offended as you are...
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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:47 pm

LOL
Asked to explain why they hate Jews, anti-Semites contradict themselves. Jews are always showing off; they are hermetic and secretive. They will not assimilate; they assimilate only too well. They are too religious; they are too materialistic, and a threat to religion. They are uncultured; they have too much culture. They avoid manual work; they work too hard. They are miserly; they are ostentatious spenders. They are inveterate capitalists; they are born Communists. And so on.

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If you're good to your word and don't have any intention of just spamming and getting into personal attacks and insulting, then I'll be happy to continue discussions with you. That is definitely my objective but I've been burnded too many times by the juvenile delinquents who are claiming to be holocaust promoters. Demonstrate your good intentions and we can start over. You could be the exception and not the rule. Nuff said.

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Post by Im_Not_Creative_Enough » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:50 pm

"What questions?
This is a thread about Jewish conspiracy theories, and it happens to be my "baby". Do you have anuy questions regarding that matter?"

Enlighten me on what part of this phrase was "spammy" and "personally attacked" you.
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