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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:18 am

Trump announces administration response to Parkland shooting: 1) make “rigorous firearms training” available to some teachers and "harden our schools against attack," 2) pass legislation to tighten background checks, 3) form a Federal Commission on School Safety, chaired by DeVos, 4) ask states to enact risk protection orders that enable police to take firearms from individuals identified as at risk, 5) review FBI procedures in the light of breakdowns in the Parkland case, and 6) urge better integration/communication among various mental health services.

Trump had earlier discussed raising minimum age of purchase of some rifles to 21, remarking, “Now, this is not a popular thing to say, in terms of the NRA. But I’m saying it anyway” ; no age rules are in the plan announced today. Nor are there any new gun control initiatives.

In masterful understatement, WaPo comments, "Trump has vacillated in his public pronouncements about guns."
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:30 am

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Postby Balmoral95 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:23 am

scrmbldggs wrote:Just had to endure a Mooning clip and noticed some of the people chewing their gum behind Dear Leader apparently were the same as some of the so-called factory workers in Ohio. :lol:

Gives the words "crisis actors" a whole new and appropriate meaning...


Disconcertingly this was a demonstration that the spirit of '16 is carrying vorwarts and that a significant segment of the population is willing to allow the WH to become a permanent chimp show.

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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby JO 753 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:42 am

New grammar skool polisy: every year 10 tiny pellets uv plutonium will be put into randomly selected lunchez in the country.

Wuts the chansez uv your kid being amongst the fatalityz? :roll:
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby scrmbldggs » Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:06 am

It's OK, there's a new Burning Brush faith healer in town.
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby scrmbldggs » Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:38 am

Looks like Darth Keebler's attempt to FUD prep the region for the P's inspection of pornoprototypes backfired. :lol:
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Postby Balmoral95 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:22 am

scrmbldggs wrote:Looks like Darth Keebler's attempt to FUD prep the region for the P's inspection of pornoprototypes backfired. :lol:


He's out of his depth.... he's really only good at being nasty to black folk.... this immigration thing is way over his head.

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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby scrmbldggs » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:28 am

'Out of their depth' seems to be the theme for that administration...
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Postby Upton_O_Goode » Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:27 am

JO 753 wrote:New grammar skool polisy: every year 10 tiny pellets uv plutonium will be put into randomly selected lunchez in the country.

Wuts the chansez uv your kid being amongst the fatalityz? :roll:


Excellent point! To paraphrase the WaPo Op-Ed linked by StatMech, why let fear of this drive our policy and take away the Second-Amendment right to use Plutonium?
"Still, doubts gnawed at everyone. And under no circumstances could I acknowledge my own similar doubts. In order to coax the participants into psychic stability, I had to appear to be rock-solidly convinced of the necessity of carrying out this horrifyingly cruel command."

Rudolf Höß, hanged facing Auschwitz, the camp he commanded, in April 1947. He admitted to 1.1 to 1.5 million murders carried out under his command. Eichmann told him the number was 2.5 million.

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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Upton_O_Goode » Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:28 am

Has Trump tweeted about the Utah would-be suicide bomber yet? If he hasn't it's only because he went off his meds and got away from his handlers in Pennsylvania. As soon as they've got him calmed down again, he'll be on that. We don't want school shootings to drive our policy. We want resident Muslim terrorists to do that.
"Still, doubts gnawed at everyone. And under no circumstances could I acknowledge my own similar doubts. In order to coax the participants into psychic stability, I had to appear to be rock-solidly convinced of the necessity of carrying out this horrifyingly cruel command."

Rudolf Höß, hanged facing Auschwitz, the camp he commanded, in April 1947. He admitted to 1.1 to 1.5 million murders carried out under his command. Eichmann told him the number was 2.5 million.

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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby scrmbldggs » Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:04 pm

Ya think he'll finally get cracking on this?


But he might be too busy chatting with his desired impeachment lawyer.
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby JO 753 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:35 pm

Dwane LaPeepr, National Plutonium Pellet Assosiation spokesman:

...every American'z rite to watch their enemyz suffer a slow painful death. The 2nd Amendment duz not say 'shall be infrinjed' about anything! We hav the rite to kill in any way we want to defend ourselvez. Nothing stops a bad guy with plutonium pellets better than a good guy with plutonium pellets!
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby scrmbldggs » Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:38 pm

Will both blow tubes and pellet guns be allowed?
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Poodle » Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:42 pm

I'm trying to stay out of this as I don't understand US gun laws in any detail, but ...
"4) ask states to enact risk protection orders that enable police to take firearms from individuals identified as at risk,"
... identified by whom?

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Postby TJrandom » Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:33 pm

Poodle wrote:I'm trying to stay out of this as I don't understand US gun laws in any detail, but ...
"4) ask states to enact risk protection orders that enable police to take firearms from individuals identified as at risk,"
... identified by whom?


Exactly! And in the US, who isn`t at risk - with all of those nutters running around playing concealed carry copper?

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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:51 pm

Poodle wrote:I'm trying to stay out of this as I don't understand US gun laws in any detail, but ...
"4) ask states to enact risk protection orders that enable police to take firearms from individuals identified as at risk,"
... identified by whom?

As you've put your finger on the nub of the problem, you seem to understand US guns/laws better than you say!
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:53 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... f294a13b38:
President Trump's uneasy detente with Russian President Vladimir Putin just became even more uneasy.

British Prime Minister Theresa May on Monday accused the Russian government of at least being complicit in an “unlawful use of force” on British soil in the poisoning of former Russia spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter last week. May gave the Russian government a day to offer a response, without which she said the attack would be regarded as an action “by the Russian state against the United Kingdom” and would lead to consequences.

not a fan of May but perhaps Obama and Trump might want to pay attention? or will Trump assure May that "he says he didn't do it, and I believe him"?
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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:13 pm

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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:18 pm

David Frum's reaction to the latest developments in the case of the poisoning of Skripal & daughter: "Britain Accuses Russia of Poisoning—and Trump Stays Silent: A normal White House would have rushed to its ally’s defense by now."
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Postby scrmbldggs » Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:26 pm

Give her a break, she (still) only knows what she knows. ;)
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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:29 pm

She is a less articulate Cory Booker, a more extreme Arne Duncan, an ignorant David Leonhardt, a stone-dumb Rahm Emanuel: outrageous as she is, unfortunately it's hard for the Democratic champions of NCLB, RTTT, "choice," and charter schools to say much. Booker and others of his ilk will attack anyway, because she's an idiot and an easy target, but they're part of this problem IMO.
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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:20 pm

Balmoral95 wrote:You have to see this to believe it:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/secretary- ... -like-her/

:banghead:

and the socialite sez that there are (((powerful forces))) allied against change . . .
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Powerful forces - yes... intelligent people.

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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:28 pm

SHOCKING - JUST IN - We're done here

House Intelligence Committee apparently wrapping up: committee majority has a draft report with the findings - 1) no evidence of Trump campaign colluding with Russia, 2) no evidence that Russia intervened to affect the 2016 election in a way favorable to Trump - explicit disagreement with IC "with respect to Putin’s supposed preference for candidate Trump", 3) any Russian "active measures" in the campaign were taken without any intention of helping Trump - no biggie, 4) there may have been some minor indiscretions in taking meetings, and 5) no need for subpoenas or contempt citations to get non-responsive witnesses to speak, committee has gotten all it needs.

Some wrongdoing found: 1) “. . . anti-Trump research made its way from Russian sources to the Clinton campaign”; 2) “Problematic contacts between senior Intelligence Community officials and the media”; 3) it's Obama's fault - "lackluster pre-election response to Russian active measures"

The Democrats on the committee were not shown a copy of the draft report before Conaway released it to the media.
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Postby scrmbldggs » Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:37 pm

Will they now become a part of the Mueller investigation? :-P
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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:42 pm

I think there is enough evidence of collusion, obstruction and gaslighting against them :)
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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:51 pm

Schiff's approach as ranking member of the House Committee has been better played than Warner's approach in the Senate (when Burr concurs with Conaway, as he must, as it is his remit, Warner will have given Burr cover with his copious blathering/partisan folderol).

re House minority draft report: brace for tweetstorm . . .
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If he gets up from Stormy's knockout approach. :lol:
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Rod Rosenstein feeling the need(?) to reaffirm Mueller's standing and Cobb on the way out - things are heating up?
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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:33 am

Well, Conaway & Co seem to be handing Trump a possible murder weapon, no?

D'ya think that the House Intelligence Committee will have agreed with Putin that, I dunno, the (((Jews))) may have gone and done what wasn't done?
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Postby scrmbldggs » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:40 am

He'll have to push for a lifelong job in his current position - otherwise he'll be sitting lifelong elsewhere as soon as he's the former Resident.
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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:20 am

@Devin, @Mike - thanks guys mission accomplished, now I can tweet this:
THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE HAS, AFTER A 14 MONTH LONG IN-DEPTH INVESTIGATION, FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION OR COORDINATION BETWEEN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND RUSSIA TO INFLUENCE THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
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Postby scrmbldggs » Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:40 am

Paul Ryan must be so happy. :soppy:


(And Hannity apoplectic learning the lawyer questioning Nunberg worked for Rosenstein before...)
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Postby scrmbldggs » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:06 am

"...we have learned a great deal about countless secret meetings, conversations and communications between Trump campaign officials and the Russians, all of which the Trump Administration initially denied, would later misrepresent, and finally be forced to acknowledge." --Schiff statement :heh:


(...there are also findings of credible allegations of money laundering, and a Republican House Intelligence Majority which rather wouldn't want to know about the very likely possibility that Putin owns POTUS...)
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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:21 am

House Intelligence Committee Finding:

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But this is fatuous nonsense more than one level. It's not just the IC who says Russian interference was meant to benefit Trump.

Mueller's indictment against Russian troll farm:

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I wonder what the House Intelligence Committee report will say about George Papadopoulos . . . whom the committee didn't interview.
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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:38 am

Andy Borowitz on the Idiot du Jour:
Furious about her treatment on the CBS news-magazine program on Sunday night, Betsy DeVos spoke to reporters on Monday, and called “60 Minutes” a “total waste of a half hour.”
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:lol:
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby scrmbldggs » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:59 am

Ha, Ivana Goldenshower and Natasha Urinkostextra might have actually been performing The Act (at) a Las Vegas nightclub, lol. And Sessions seemed agreeable with the possibility of Dumpy meeting with Putin, as offered by Papadopoulus... (-- according to the new Isikoff/Corn book)
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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:14 am

scrmbldggs wrote:Ha, Ivana Goldenshower and Natasha Urinkostextra might have actually been performing The Act (at) a Las Vegas nightclub, lol. And Sessions seemed agreeable with the possibility of Dumpy meeting with Putin, as offered by Papadopoulus... (-- according to the new Isikoff/Corn book)

How is Sessions simply recused but spinning up investigations rather than himself under heavy investigation by Mueller's office?
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