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Holocaust denial google algorithm

Postby ryu » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:16 pm

Is it just me or is this so called google algorithm for the term "Did the holocaust happen" one big circle jerk to upset the trolls?

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Re: Holocaust denial google algorithm

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:23 pm

We talked about this here:
viewtopic.php?f=39&t=27626

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Re: Holocaust denial google algorithm

Postby Denying-History » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:16 pm

Jeffk 1970 wrote:We talked about this here:
viewtopic.php?f=39&t=27626

That's expected.
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Re: Holocaust denial google algorithm

Postby Kleon_I XYZ Contagion » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:51 am

News on this front:

Google aims to stop users from seeing things like neo-Nazi results for Holocaust searches.

Google is making a new push to eliminate offensive search results such as those that appeared from US neo-Nazi site Stormfront in response to queries about the Holocaust. As Search Engine Land noticed, the site has revised its guide on how to assess search result quality for around 10,000 of its "quality rater" contractors. That includes a new "upsetting-offensive" content flag for the promotion of violence or hate against minorities and other groups, racial content, graphic violence and human trafficking.

On a search for "holocaust history," for instance, Google instructs raters on how to handle two different results (below). The first shows a post from said racist site Stormfront on Holocaust denial, something that's actually a crime in over 20 countries. Google tells raters to flag that with the "Upsetting-Offensive" flag "because of the direct relationship between Holocaust denial and anti-Semitism.

Google says the second example from The History Channel doesn't require the "Upsetting-Offensive" flag, though. Even though it's clearly an upsetting topic, "this result is a factually accurate source of historical information" that, unlike Stormfront, "does not exist to promote hate or violence against a group of people," the document states.

Once the raters flag a result, nothing happens immediately. Rather, they're used by Google's coding team and, in turn, its AI algorithms, to improve the search engine overall. Once all that kicks in, someone searching for history about the Holocaust will be less likely to run into a denial site, if things go as planned. However, determined searchers will still find such results if they specifically seek them out by naming a site, Google points out.

The company has used the new guidelines with select raters and updated its algorithm late last year. Now, searching with a query like "did the holocaust happen" no longer returns Stormfront as the top result and instead surfaces pages from the United States Holocaust Museum. Other queries still turn out questionable results, but Google told Search Engine Land it's "pleased" with the raters' work so far. "We will see how some of this works out," said Google engineer Paul Haahr. "We're learning as we go."


- Google tells army of 'quality raters' to flag Holocaust denial | Technology | The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... -fake-news

- Google launches new effort to flag upsetting or offensive content in search
http://searchengineland.com/google-flag ... ent-271119

Not irrelevant:
- Why I, editor of the Jewish Chronicle, think anti-Semites should be allowed on YouTube
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03 ... d-youtube/
According to experts and scholars, the 10 stages of every genocide are
Classification Symbolization Discrimination Dehumanization Organization Polarization Preparation Persecution Extermination
... and finally the 10th stage:
Denial
http://www.genocidewatch.org/genocide/t ... ocide.html

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Re: Holocaust denial google algorithm

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:25 pm

Uh oh, looks like ((((they)))) are at it again.

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Re: Holocaust denial google algorithm

Postby Monster » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:23 pm

Jeffk 1970 wrote:Uh oh, looks like ((((they)))) are at it again.

Jew parentheses is a group of 3, not 4.
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Re: Holocaust denial google algorithm

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:34 pm

Monster wrote:
Jeffk 1970 wrote:Uh oh, looks like ((((they)))) are at it again.

Jew parentheses is a group of 3, not 4.


Oh, sorry. Don't have this whackadoodle conspiracy thing down yet.


(((They)))

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Re: Holocaust denial google algorithm

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:50 pm

Monster wrote:
Jeffk 1970 wrote:Uh oh, looks like ((((they)))) are at it again.

Jew parentheses is a group of 3, not 4.

Thank you for this. It is very important. Jeffk should know better. :)
Nazism conspired to create a sense of festival time. . . . Tragically for humanity, the party generating it was the type not associated with the coloured costumes of the Brazilian Carnival, but with the brown-shirted thuggery of the NSDAP. The contrast between the dance and the march, between the samba and the strains of the Horst Wessel Lied, points to the gulf separating a life-asserting community from a community which exists only by creating a demonized other. - RG '97

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Re: Holocaust denial google algorithm

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:59 pm

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Monster wrote:
Jeffk 1970 wrote:Uh oh, looks like ((((they)))) are at it again.

Jew parentheses is a group of 3, not 4.

Thank you for this. It is very important. Jeffk should know better. :)


My "Guide to the Jewish New World Order" was the 2015 version, not the updated 2016 version.

I deeply apologize, my children took my 2016 version and used the pages to line the birdcage.

Bad boys!!!!

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Re: Holocaust denial google algorithm

Postby BornAgainDisciple » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:05 am

"I am convinced that freedom of speech means nothing unless it includes the freedom for offensive people to be offensive. We who are offended by them, must accept that, as a cost of living in a free society.”
- Deborah Lipstadt

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Re: Holocaust denial google algorithm

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:20 am

BornAgainDisciple wrote:"I am convinced that freedom of speech means nothing unless it includes the freedom for offensive people to be offensive. We who are offended by them, must accept that, as a cost of living in a free society.”
- Deborah Lipstadt


I agree with all of that. As long as the denier in question does not threaten or encourage violence.

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Re: Holocaust denial google algorithm

Postby Kleon_I XYZ Contagion » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:28 pm

- Hundreds of clients withdraw from Google's advertising network after anti-semitism sting
Google allegedly violated its policies by not taking down anti-Semitic videos from YouTube.

An investigation by the Times found that major companies and taxpayers were unknowingly funding extremists through advertising, with videos receiving $7.60 (£6.10) per 1,000 views of an advert.

Some 200 offending videos were reportedly found on YouTube, including titles such as "Adolf Hitler vs The Jew World Order", which attempts to debunk beliefs that the Holocaust took place and whose owner described the video platform as "JewTube".

Other videos, including some helmed by David Duke, the former Ku Klux Klan leader, cite stereotyped theories that Jews control the world's banks and start wars for profit.

One particular video alleged that Jews killed non-Jewish children on Passover and sold their bodies to McDonalds to be used as burger meat. It gained over a million views – enough to generate around £5,600 in advertising revenue to the individual behind it.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/hundreds-clien ... ng-1612387

- Millions of pounds of advertising have been pulled from the video platform YouTube after major brands and government departments found they were appearing next to content promoting extremism.
Adverts for the Cabinet Office, Honda and Argos, among others, were being shown alongside videos for racists, white supremacists and rape apologists, according to a Times investigation.

Home Office, BBC and Guardian compromised
Among those to have been affected are the Home Office, the Royal Navy, the Royal Air Force, Transport For London and the BBC. Channel 4, Visit Scotland, the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA), The Guardian and Sainsbury's have also been caught out.

Their adverts have been appearing next to videos of former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan David Duke and Egyptian preacher Wagdi Ghoneim, who has been banned from the UK since 2009 because he was considered to "foment, justify or glorify terrorist violence".

The investigation raises questions about how Google monitors the thousands of hours of footage uploaded to YouTube daily.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/official-bodie ... al-1612093

The tech giant says it cannot monitor every video posted to YouTube, due to the sheer quantity – between 100-300 hours of video are posted to the site every minute – and so it relies on the public to report offensive videos.
According to experts and scholars, the 10 stages of every genocide are
Classification Symbolization Discrimination Dehumanization Organization Polarization Preparation Persecution Extermination
... and finally the 10th stage:
Denial
http://www.genocidewatch.org/genocide/t ... ocide.html

XYZ Contagion (‘Because the truth is contagious‘), an investigative/research political and historical website, deals also with the Srebrenica Genocide
https://xyzcontagion.wordpress.com/about/#English

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Re: Holocaust denial google algorithm

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:25 pm

Nazism conspired to create a sense of festival time. . . . Tragically for humanity, the party generating it was the type not associated with the coloured costumes of the Brazilian Carnival, but with the brown-shirted thuggery of the NSDAP. The contrast between the dance and the march, between the samba and the strains of the Horst Wessel Lied, points to the gulf separating a life-asserting community from a community which exists only by creating a demonized other. - RG '97



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