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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by montgomery » Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:20 pm

I've got a couple of examples of the dumbest H.P.'er of all time but I'll hold off until I see if a new leaf has been turned over on the personal insults.

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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:22 pm

What I've seen of his was upper third of the rankings, yeah. I haven't seen a lot.

I don't think I was the only one to get a giant kick out of ralphgordon.
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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by montgomery » Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:27 pm

Statistical Mechanic wrote:What I've seen of his was upper third of the rankings, yeah. I haven't seen a lot.

I don't think I was the only one to get a giant kick out of ralphgordon.
So you're running for cover are you? You have some reason all of a sudden that you have to abide by the board's rules? If so then there must have been orders come down from the mod that I haven't heard about.

Super if true, but I'll test the water for a while with my usual exemplary proper and appropriate behavior!

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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by scrmbldggs » Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:33 pm

Statistical Mechanic wrote:What I've seen of his was upper third of the rankings, yeah. I haven't seen a lot.

I don't think I was the only one to get a giant kick out of ralphgordon.
That's gonna make for a droopy groupie - you're making the little member jealous. #heartbreak
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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:35 pm

scrmbldggs wrote:
Statistical Mechanic wrote:What I've seen of his was upper third of the rankings, yeah. I haven't seen a lot.

I don't think I was the only one to get a giant kick out of ralphgordon.
That's gonna make for a droopy groupie - you're making the little member jealous.
ralphie was, let's say, unique; he never did, however, read Angrick & Klein's book on Riga as far as I know - and now Angrick is out to shatter dreams with a book on SK-1005, which deniers will also avoid . . .
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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by Darren Wilshak » Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:40 pm

Ralph was superb, the Rassinier avatar. There was a time when I actually thought that was what he looked like.

RG Q: Do you think I am as mad as Anders Brevik?

KentFord9 A: The only sane answer is precisely, no more no less.

He liked that punk music that you are fond of. Ralph, the world's only Holocaust Agnostic.

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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by VFX » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:45 am

Darren Wilshak wrote:Ralph was superb, the Rassinier avatar. There was a time when I actually thought that was what he looked like.

RG Q: Do you think I am as mad as Anders Brevik?

KentFord9 A: The only sane answer is precisely, no more no less.

He liked that punk music that you are fond of. Ralph, the world's only Holocaust Agnostic.
One must ask several questions:
  1. are you sane?
  2. are you in an alternative Cosmos
  3. are you genuine assuming you are human.
  4. you obviously are a druggy. So what is your agenda... What do you hope to gain from this forum.?
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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:49 pm

bump

We have contenders
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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by VFX » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:56 pm

Statistical Mechanic wrote:bump

We have contenders
No, believe the world when they say you are without competition.
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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by montgomery » Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:29 pm

I think that INCE just showed us who the dumbest promoter of all time is!
7 is a holy number in Judaism. So are 13, 18 and 40. Not only 6 million is not a holy of significant number in Jewish culture - ANCIENT HEBREW DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A WORD FOR "MILLION" IN IT.
Is he one of the experts or just a common schlunk?

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Re: The weirdest denier of all time

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What's wrong with you?
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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:53 pm

montgomery wrote:I think that INCE just showed us who the dumbest promoter of all time is!
7 is a holy number in Judaism. So are 13, 18 and 40. Not only 6 million is not a holy of significant number in Jewish culture - ANCIENT HEBREW DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A WORD FOR "MILLION" IN IT.
Is he one of the experts or just a common schlunk?

Can you read or speak ancient Hebrew?
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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:11 pm

Statistical Mechanic wrote:My update looks like this:

1.Clayton Moore 
2 the Rizolis
3 Saggy
4 ralphgordon 
5 Greg Gerdes
6 Rollo the Ganger 
7 Steve Wiseman
8 [name redacted to comply with SSF forum rules]  
9 Ephraimite
10 [name redacted to comply with SSF forum rules] 
11 shyster 
12 k0nsl 
13 [name redacted to comply with SSF forum rules]  
14 davecatlicense 
15 Carolyn Yeager
a revision:

1.Clayton Moore
2 the Rizolis
3 [name redacted to comply with SSF forum rules]
4 Saggy
6 ralphgordon
5 Greg Gerdes
6 Rollo the Ganger
7 [name redacted to comply with SSF forum rules]
8 Ephraimite
9 Steve Wiseman
10 [name redacted to comply with SSF forum rules]
11 shyster
12 k0nsl
13 [name redacted to comply with SSF forum rules]
14 davecatlicense
15 Carolyn Yeager
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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by montgomery » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:36 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Statistical Mechanic wrote:My update looks like this:

1.Clayton Moore 
2 the Rizolis
3 Saggy
4 ralphgordon 
5 Greg Gerdes
6 Rollo the Ganger 
7 Steve Wiseman
8 [name redacted to comply with SSF forum rules]  
9 Ephraimite
10 [name redacted to comply with SSF forum rules] 
11 shyster 
12 k0nsl 
13 [name redacted to comply with SSF forum rules]  
14 davecatlicense 
15 Carolyn Yeager
a revision:

1.Clayton Moore
2 the Rizolis
3 [name redacted to comply with SSF forum rules]
4 Saggy
6 ralphgordon
5 Greg Gerdes
6 Rollo the Ganger
7 [name redacted to comply with SSF forum rules]
8 Ephraimite
9 Steve Wiseman
10 [name redacted to comply with SSF forum rules]
11 shyster
12 k0nsl
13 [name redacted to comply with SSF forum rules]
14 davecatlicense
15 Carolyn Yeager
How do you feel about that kind of childish behavior of revising your list for nobody's sake but your own? Are you behaving the way you should behave if you want to be seen as a decent person with a rational agenda?

Are VFX and me the two whose names have been redacted? What rule is left that you haven't violated with impunity already?

Are you an avid reader or just a book name dropper who needs to promote an otherwise insecure persona?

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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:38 am

Jeffk 1970 wrote:Ok, I'll give an update and extend this to 10:


1) Monstrous-Still the all time champion, his recent attempt at the goofy "there's a better way, therefore it didn't happen" simply separates him from the competition.
2) The Rizolis-I combine Jim and Joe, they are simply mouthpieces of each other. Jim is the more public one, Joe has the fouler mouth. Their only arguments consist of copying and pasting enormous tracts from whatever Holocaust Handbook they happen to have at hand.
3) Fritz Berg-A firm champion of the "The Germans were superior to everyone else, therefore they would have used a better method (my method, the one I really want to use)." Descends into vile racist/anti-Semitic ranting when confronted.
4) Carolyn Yeager-A silly Nazi wannabe groupie. She probably has a bust of Hitler that she worships at any given opportunity.
5) Diane King-The very definition of a screeching harridan, nothing more than the Rizoli's mouthpiece, she refuses to accept any sane argument.
6) Turnagain-"I refuse to accept anything not compiled by a neutral third party (and only a third party that I personally approve of)."
7) rollo the ganger-One of his arguments was copying vast tracks of literary license over the word ghetto.
8) Talbot-Talbot is my first entry that only D-H would know. He is now a regular at FG's blog. A fussy Englishman, he asks for some of the oddest things you could imagine. He once asked me for the maintenance schedules of the gas vans. In return I asked him for the maintenance schedule of HMS Ark Royal (91). I never got it.
9) hermie-hermie is my second entry that only D-H would know. A regular at FG's blog, he spouts some of the wildest anti-Semitic garbage that only Berg could truly appreciate. A true conspiracy theorist, he believes that the Zionists started prepping for the Holocaust somewhere around 1905. Or maybe 1885. I can't remember. Anyway, he is a true white nationalist who can misquote the Talmud to fit any weird theory he sprouts from his weird noggin. A misogynist, I think it really embarrassed him to find out FG is a woman.
10) eah-A third entry from FG's blog, it used to entertain me to set him off because it caused him to unleash a string of invective vile enough to make a Tourette sufferer blush.
This is mine from long ago. It includes some posters from FG’s blog:
Talbot
hermie
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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by Jeff_36 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:52 am

Ok so my new list, with the benefit of being a good deal older, rather wiser, and having done a bit of introspection.

1. Saggy
2. Monstrous
3. Joe Rizoli
4. Jim Rizoli
5. Hargis
6. Berg
7. Traynor
8. Graf
9. Yeager
10. Been-There

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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:54 am

Guys, I honestly don't get Monstrous.
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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by Balmoral95 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:01 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:Guys, I honestly don't get Monstrous.
No... that was something other than....

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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by Matthew Ellard » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:01 am

placid wrote:You have interpreted wrong.I said what Hitler did was an act of love,
Let's look at Placid's other posts,
placid previously wrote: Where do people get the information that Hitler was a nasty Jew-killer?
placid previously wrote: Do your own research into the truth of Hitler's Germany?
placid previously wrote: Hitler had to do something, He was a leader trying to protect his country,
placid previously wrote: Hitler was coerced into war by forces higher up on the political chessboard,
placid previously wrote: we cannot hold him entirely responsible for what happened. Hitler was not the baddie that people make him out to be
This is currently going on in this thread, if anyone would like to join in.
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=27982&start=1960#p665080

(It's just a loony follower, called Placid, of Savitri Devi, the pro-nazi occult woman who adopted Indian cults. Placid is trying support another looney, called Steve Klinko, who has discovered god in the colour red.)
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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by Jeff_36 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:29 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:Guys, I honestly don't get Monstrous.
For me it was his general lack of self awareness, his inability to recognize when he was beaten, and his absolutely bonkers theory on Soviet resettlement, that he clung to despite the fact that his ignorance of post-WWII Soviet history was repeatedly beaten around his ears.

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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

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Jeff_36 wrote:
Statistical Mechanic wrote:Guys, I honestly don't get Monstrous.
For me it was his general lack of self awareness, his inability to recognize when he was beaten, and his absolutely bonkers theory on Soviet resettlement, that he clung to despite the fact that his ignorance of post-WWII Soviet history was repeatedly beaten around his ears.
you've described a run of the mill denier whereas the top 15 were apocalyptically thick :)
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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by scrmbldggs » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:34 am

:hmm: monty is monstrous?



Matthew's post is about monty's mom! (Not sure if that post is OK with Pyrrho, tho. :scratch:)
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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Jeff_36 wrote:
Statistical Mechanic wrote:Guys, I honestly don't get Monstrous.
For me it was his general lack of self awareness, his inability to recognize when he was beaten, and his absolutely bonkers theory on Soviet resettlement, that he clung to despite the fact that his ignorance of post-WWII Soviet history was repeatedly beaten around his ears.
you've described a run of the mill denier whereas the top 15 were apocalyptically thick :)
There were times when he had me in stitches for days after the fact. No other denier did that. His weird bubble about secret nuclear detonations sounded like Alex Jones on PCP.

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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

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Jeff_36 wrote:
Statistical Mechanic wrote:Guys, I honestly don't get Monstrous.
For me it was his general lack of self awareness, his inability to recognize when he was beaten, and his absolutely bonkers theory on Soviet resettlement, that he clung to despite the fact that his ignorance of post-WWII Soviet history was repeatedly beaten around his ears.
For me it was just his all round apocalyptic stupidity.
A joke going around Moscow during The Great Terror:

The NKVD knocks on a door.
The inhabitants ask who it is.
“NKVD.”
“You’ve got the wrong apartment. The Communists are upstairs.”

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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:40 am

Particularly his mumbling about German gulags where the Germans stuck graffiti-spraying teenagers.
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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

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Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Jeff_36 wrote:
Statistical Mechanic wrote:Guys, I honestly don't get Monstrous.
For me it was his general lack of self awareness, his inability to recognize when he was beaten, and his absolutely bonkers theory on Soviet resettlement, that he clung to despite the fact that his ignorance of post-WWII Soviet history was repeatedly beaten around his ears.
For me it was just his all round apocalyptic stupidity.
the third person affect was pretty great too. I sometimes couldn't believe what I was reading.

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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

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Jeffk 1970 wrote:Particularly his mumbling about German gulags where the Germans stuck graffiti-spraying teenagers.
Did Darren ever pin the guy down? I had my guesses as to where he was from but no more than that.

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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

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Jeff_36 wrote:
Jeffk 1970 wrote:Particularly his mumbling about German gulags where the Germans stuck graffiti-spraying teenagers.
Did Darren ever pin the guy down? I had my guesses as to where he was from but no more than that.

Monstrous? I have no idea.
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“NKVD.”
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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

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scrmbldggs wrote::hmm: monty is monstrous?



Matthew's post is about monty's mom! (Not sure if that post is OK with Pyrrho, tho. :scratch:)
Say what you like about Monstrous or me and say what you like about my mom or our mom's if you've decided on it yet? I promise I won't say a word to Phyrro.

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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

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montgomery wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote::hmm: monty is monstrous?



Matthew's post is about monty's mom! (Not sure if that post is OK with Pyrrho, tho. :scratch:)
Say what you like about Monstrous or me and say what you like about my mom or our mom's if you've decided on it yet? I promise I won't say a word to Phyrro.
No, please go and waffle all you want. It would be funny. :lol:
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Jeff_36 wrote:
For me it was his general lack of self awareness, his inability to recognize when he was beaten, and his absolutely bonkers theory on Soviet resettlement, that he clung to despite the fact that his ignorance of post-WWII Soviet history was repeatedly beaten around his ears.
That is your opinion, I do not know Monstrous at all but seems he was correct for the most part. You have no idea of Soviet History so do not pretend you do: they only let you know what they want you to think.
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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by Balmoral95 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 5:00 am

VFX wrote:
Jeff_36 wrote:
For me it was his general lack of self awareness, his inability to recognize when he was beaten, and his absolutely bonkers theory on Soviet resettlement, that he clung to despite the fact that his ignorance of post-WWII Soviet history was repeatedly beaten around his ears.
That is your opinion, I do not know Monstrous at all but seems he was correct for the most part. You have no idea of Soviet History so do not pretend you do: they only let you know what they want you to think.
Well, the one thing they let you twots know is they won.

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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by VFX » Tue Sep 25, 2018 5:03 am

Balmoral95 wrote:
Well, the one thing they let you twots know is they won.
Winning a battle or two is not the War...you have delusional thinking.
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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:44 am

Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Jeff_36 wrote:
Statistical Mechanic wrote:Guys, I honestly don't get Monstrous.
For me it was his general lack of self awareness, his inability to recognize when he was beaten, and his absolutely bonkers theory on Soviet resettlement, that he clung to despite the fact that his ignorance of post-WWII Soviet history was repeatedly beaten around his ears.
For me it was just his all round apocalyptic stupidity.
But it wasn't apocalyptic, it was basic denial.
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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:46 am

Balmoral95 wrote:
VFX wrote:
Jeff_36 wrote:
For me it was his general lack of self awareness, his inability to recognize when he was beaten, and his absolutely bonkers theory on Soviet resettlement, that he clung to despite the fact that his ignorance of post-WWII Soviet history was repeatedly beaten around his ears.
That is your opinion, I do not know Monstrous at all but seems he was correct for the most part. You have no idea of Soviet History so do not pretend you do: they only let you know what they want you to think.
Well, the one thing they let you twots know is they won.
>> I do not know Monstrous at all but seems he was correct for the most part.

Says the guy who couldn't point out one such instance in the Einsatzgruppen thread, which he stopped trolling when he kept coming up empty.

Btw Jeffs, you should not be posting names of forum members as candidates in this thread.
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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:01 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Balmoral95 wrote:
VFX wrote:
Jeff_36 wrote:
For me it was his general lack of self awareness, his inability to recognize when he was beaten, and his absolutely bonkers theory on Soviet resettlement, that he clung to despite the fact that his ignorance of post-WWII Soviet history was repeatedly beaten around his ears.
That is your opinion, I do not know Monstrous at all but seems he was correct for the most part. You have no idea of Soviet History so do not pretend you do: they only let you know what they want you to think.
Well, the one thing they let you twots know is they won.
>> I do not know Monstrous at all but seems he was correct for the most part.

Says the guy who couldn't point out one such instance in the Einsatzgruppen thread, which he stopped trolling when he kept coming up empty.

Btw Jeffs, you should not be posting names of forum members as candidates in this thread.
Yep, realized that when you posted your updated list. My apologies to Monstrous, won’t do it again.
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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:10 pm

You know, there was this denier named Talbot who used to post over at FG’s Blog. Montgomery reminds me of him, he used to make over the top demands and then never believe anything I showed him.

Silly fellow once asked me for the maintenance schedule for the gas vans at Chelmno, in return I asked him for the maintenance schedule for the Arc Royale. Funny, never got that... :lol:
A joke going around Moscow during The Great Terror:

The NKVD knocks on a door.
The inhabitants ask who it is.
“NKVD.”
“You’ve got the wrong apartment. The Communists are upstairs.”

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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by montgomery » Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:47 pm

Jeffk 1970 wrote:You know, there was this denier named Talbot who used to post over at FG’s Blog. Montgomery reminds me of him, he used to make over the top demands and then never believe anything I showed him.

Silly fellow once asked me for the maintenance schedule for the gas vans at Chelmno, in return I asked him for the maintenance schedule for the Arc Royale. Funny, never got that... :lol:
It seems that the worse the denier is, the more you dislike him. I've now succeeded int having s & m put me on ignore! That's because I can laugh at him for not being able to meet the challenge of producing a book or lengthy testimony by any eye witness or historian that is 'original' and dates back to what can be considered 'eye witness'. The 40's or the early 50's of course!

And neither can you but I'm happy to entertain your attempts! Surely Shirly, this wasn't all fabricated out of whole cloth?? Shirley?? :oops:

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Re: The dumbest denier of all time

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:48 pm

The original list was of deniers who pretended to be serious - not drive by posters at blogs, on YouTube, etc.
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