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Postby Nessie » Thu Aug 13, 2015 2:08 pm

I thought it would be handy to gather together anti-Semitic and Nazi apology comments by denier/revisionists. Friedrich Berg has just got himself a short ban on RODOH for this

https://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=65380#p65380

"Nessie, You have merely showed everyone once again what a depraved and stupid Jew you really are."

Here Berg rants about how Bomber Harris, Churchill and some other Allied leaders should be burned at the stake

https://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php? ... 256#p65357

I asked Berg if Hitler should burn he responds "The answer to Nessie's obscene suggestion is: "NO." Hitler did NOT deserve to be executed at all."
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Postby Monster » Thu Aug 13, 2015 2:39 pm

He sounds like a giant douche.

Friedrich Berg wrote:Of course, the self-described "victims" of those things would say that and that was why they were put into concentration camps--and rightly so.
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Postby Jeff_36 » Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:21 pm

I wonder what Berg thinks about Erik Koch, Victors Arjas, Odilo Globocnik, Wilhelm Kube, and Jurgen Stroop to name a few. Some of the most depraved and insane racist freaks of all time. Arjas and Koch died alone in concrete boxes, Globocnik cheated justice, Kube got blown to bits and Stroop had his chicken neck snapped like a twig. 4/5, I'll take it.

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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:57 pm

Nessie's point fits well in the thread I started on what deniers actually deny - their beliefs are not focused on six/gas/plan but include - as we've seen with Maryzilla and Monstrous - firm fixations on CTs around the Einsatzgruppen and a host of other odd "interpretations" of history that come along with, for most of them, anti-Semitism and views rooted in a National Socialist outlook.
"World peace is certainly an ideal worth striving for; in Hitler's opinion it will be realizable only when one power, the racially best one, has attained complete and uncontested supremacy. That can then provide a sort of world police, seeing to it at the same time that the most valuable race is guaranteed the necessary living space. And if no other way is open to them, the lower races will have to restrict themselves accordingly."

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Postby Jeff_36 » Thu Aug 13, 2015 7:47 pm

Is "Jew" Berg's go-to insult? I have seen many instances of him hurling similar incentive at nessie without getting banned, and dropping the K-bomb on numerous occasions as well as referring to his opponents as "creatures" and "Jewish trash".

Word of advice Nessie: Next time he goes off on you like that I suggest that you respond with "Bite me".

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Postby Nessie » Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:22 pm

Shelby, who I believe is Greg Gerdes on my attempting the NAFCASH Challenge

https://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php? ... 150#p65406

"......yet another of his jewvinile attempts at deception."
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Postby Matthew Ellard » Fri Aug 14, 2015 1:07 am

Nessie wrote:Shelby, who I believe is Greg Gerdes on my attempting the NAFCASH Challenge"

Berg is just plain mad. Gerdes is 100% bat-shit crazy.

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Postby Xcalibur » Fri Aug 14, 2015 1:25 am

Nessie wrote:I thought it would be handy to gather together anti-Semitic and Nazi apology comments by denier/revisionists. Friedrich Berg has just got himself a short ban on RODOH for this

https://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=65380#p65380

"Nessie, You have merely showed everyone once again what a depraved and stupid Jew you really are."

Here Berg rants about how Bomber Harris, Churchill and some other Allied leaders should be burned at the stake

https://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php? ... 256#p65357

I asked Berg if Hitler should burn he responds "The answer to Nessie's obscene suggestion is: "NO." Hitler did NOT deserve to be executed at all."


Has Berg ever made an internet statement wasn't anti- Jewish? Now he's just a miserable old {!#%@} of 80. By his own admission at RODOH 1, he talked openly about how he and his daddy used to be jealous of Jews in Cadillacs during his formative years. So, yeah, he's been a bitter, anti-jewish chimp by parental training for the last 70 years.

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Postby Jeff_36 » Fri Aug 14, 2015 3:07 am

He's actually 72. LOL when he couldn't figure out how to log in here due to his failing faculties and towering stupidity. His attempt at disputing the Holfe Telegram was so asinine that I wondered if he was joking. His credibility (if he had any) was ruined after that.

In my neighborhood the people in Bentley's are WASP's like Berg.

I remember when Greg Gerdes was a routine feature at HC. Roberto would use the guy's {!#%@} face as a dartboard. Gerdes is so idiotic that it's a wonder he made it to his age without using a meat cleaver as a toothbrush by accident.

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Postby Nessie » Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:50 pm

Been-there on the Jews

https://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php? ... 534#p65519

"More on the way people who collectively regard themselves primarily as 'Jewish' are perceived as parasitic members of their domicile nation-state even by someone who himself was raised 'Jewish' in the occupied Palestinian territories, but who now has rejected that self-identification and group mentality. Here he discusses how some members of that self-percieved 'group' are currently collectively manipulating media and public opinion to serve their own zionist and 'jewish' interests and goals.......Some members of this self-perceived group are using 'the Holocaust' narrative as a political tool for their own ends in this campaign to influence the outcome of the Labour Party leadership contest."

The whole thread is littered with comments such as the above.
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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:58 pm

Has-been started that in the Untermyer thread and split off the International Jewry thread to do more of it . . . what? almost a year and a half ago?
"World peace is certainly an ideal worth striving for; in Hitler's opinion it will be realizable only when one power, the racially best one, has attained complete and uncontested supremacy. That can then provide a sort of world police, seeing to it at the same time that the most valuable race is guaranteed the necessary living space. And if no other way is open to them, the lower races will have to restrict themselves accordingly."

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Don't ignore the scientific contributions.

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Nessie wrote:I thought it would be handy to gather together anti-Semitic and Nazi apology comments by denier/revisionists. Friedrich Berg has just got himself a short ban on RODOH for this

https://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=65380#p65380

"Nessie, You have merely showed everyone once again what a depraved and stupid Jew you really are."

Here Berg rants about how Bomber Harris, Churchill and some other Allied leaders should be burned at the stake

https://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php? ... 256#p65357

I asked Berg if Hitler should burn he responds "The answer to Nessie's obscene suggestion is: "NO."
Hitler did NOT deserve to be executed at all."


Hello Nessie- Mr. Berg is hot headed, cankerous, obnoxious, and generally offensive to everyone including many Revisionists.
He may have a touch of Tourette syndrome.

His personality difficulties should not be an excuse to ignore the breakthrough scientific observations that
Mr. Berg made regarding the impossibility of unloaded diesel engines killing people.
This correct observation has caused significant "revisions" in Holocaust Belief.
The scientific fact is that exhaust from an unloaded diesel engine cannot kill people by CO poisoning.

The second scientific fact that Mr. Berg has pointed out is the physical effect of death by CO poisoning, ie.
first a very marked pink flushing, followed shortly there after by Cherry Red Lividity.
This scientific is exactly opposite from "common sense."
What is amazing is that the "eye witnessing" relating to bodies taken from the CO "gas chambers" at
Treblinka, Chelmo, Majdanek, or Sobibor mention black, purple or yellow bodies but NOT ONE mentions the
correct and striking effects of CO poisoning. Believers have not offered the slightest scientific rebuttal to
Mr. Berg's observation. There is none.

I am not sure why you would want to start a thread dissecting Mr. Berg's personality.
Are you trying to make a point?

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Postby scrmbldggs » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:56 am

He may have a touch of Tourette syndrome.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAneFhhdPuk

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Re: Don't ignore the scientific contributions.

Postby Matthew Ellard » Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:19 am

David, the holocaust denier wrote: Mr. Berg is hot headed, cankerous, obnoxious, and generally offensive to everyone including many Revisionists. He may have a touch of Tourette syndrome.
Fascinating. So Berg, the holocaust denier has Tourettes, Eric Hunt, the leader of the holocaust deniers, has paranoid schizophrenia, Greg Gerdes suffers bi-polar disorder and Toben suffers the delusion that the Nazis have polar bases.

Did you join this cult because you suffer early senility?
David, the holocaust denier wrote: The second scientific fact that Mr. Berg has pointed out is the physical effect of death by CO poisoning.........
You have been educated by us many times that asphyxiation was a contributing cause to death of gas chamber victims. You simply keep forgetting because you suffer early senility. Try to remember that. :D

When are you, a "leading' neo-Nazi "Revisionist" going to answer Statistical Mechanic's questions? Can you even remember any of the questions at all? :D

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Postby scrmbldggs » Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:28 am

:lol: What a crowd.



Matthew Ellard wrote:You have been educated by us many times that asphyxiation was a contributing cause to death of gas chamber victims...

I just read something placing asphyxiation at or near the top under such circumstances. Will see if I can dig it up and then post it.

When are you, a "leading' neo-Nazi "Revisionist" going to answer Statistical Mechanic's questions? Can you even remember any of the questions at all? :D

Can't be said often enough...

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Matthew Ellard wrote:[quote="David] The second scientific fact that Mr. Berg has pointed out is the physical effect of death by CO poisoning......... [/quote]
You have been educated by us many times that asphyxiation was a contributing cause to death of gas chamber victims. [/quote]


Poor Matty, You mean lack of oxygen?
Gawd help this poor Believer.

So your new Ellard Theory is that people pushed into an airtight room will die from lack of oxygen?
Pretty funny. Your use of your words, "contributing cause to death of ..." just shows what a little
weasel you are.

But to address the science of your absurd theory:
Unloaded diesel exhaust contains enough oxygen to keep people alive.

So, if you have people in an airtight room with unloaded diesel exhaust blowing in, THEY WILL LIVE LONGER!

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Postby Matthew Ellard » Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:29 am

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Matthew Ellard wrote: You have been educated by us many times that asphyxiation was a contributing cause to death of gas chamber victims.
David, the lying holocaust denier wrote:You mean lack of oxygen?
That's what asphyxiation means you complete idiot.

Your senility is preventing you from remembering the entire thread that supplied all the evidence. It's the same thread where you twice got caught faking citations.
:D

viewtopic.php?f=39&t=18857&hilit=asphyxiation&start=240#p418432

When are you going to answer Statistical Mechanic's questions ?

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Matthew Ellard wrote:]
Matthew Ellard wrote: You have been educated by us many times that asphyxiation was a contributing cause to death of gas chamber victims.
David, the lying holocaust denier wrote:You mean lack of oxygen?
[colorThat's what asphyxiation means you complete idiot.

Poor Matty, you are such a jerk and don't understand the science behind the question.
CO poisoning affects the ability of the body to transport oxygen through the blood. With CO poisoning one could die even in a room
with oxygen in it. This is similar to cyanide poisoning.

You seem, in a pathetic uneducated way, to be declaring your faith in your new theory, ie.
that the level of available oxygen in the "gas chamber" was depleted.

In fact, the air being blown into the room from an unloaded diesel would contain enough oxygen to keep a person alive.
No wonder you hate Mr Berg....he is obviously much smarter, more educated, and more logical than you are.
But you are more nasty and hateful.

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Re: Don't ignore the scientific contributions.

Postby Matthew Ellard » Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:11 am

David, the senile holocaust denier wrote:Poor Matty, you are such a jerk and don't understand the science behind the question.
No David. I already understand the science from the already existing thread. This is the thread where you got caught faking two citations before you ran away and hid for three months. :D

viewtopic.php?f=39&t=18857&p=415991&hilit=asphyxiation#p415991

Would you like me to show you your two fake citations again? It was very funny. We all laughed at you for days.

So.....before you attempt your fringe reset, claiming senility, when are you going to answer Statistical Mechanics questions?

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Postby Nessie » Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:49 pm

Just logged on to say that will not be happening again for some time. David and Matthew, you are both pathetic, childish, ignorant people.
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Postby Matthew Ellard » Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:11 am

Nessie wrote:Just logged on to say that will not be happening again for some time. David and Matthew, you are both pathetic, childish, ignorant people.
What's your particular problem, this time Nessie.

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Postby David » Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:34 am

Nessie wrote:Just logged on to say that will not be happening again for some time. David and Matthew, you are both pathetic, childish, ignorant people.


Hello Nessie- Sorry to have gotten you mad.
However, I do disagree that Revisionists in general are either Anti-Semitic or Nazi apologists.

Here is a quote by Jurgen Graf and Carlo Mattagno about Majdanek Camp- They are two Revisionist scholars.

The concentration camp Majdanek was a place of suffering.

The people imprisoned there suffered under catastrophic sanitary conditions, epidemics, at times completely insufficient rations, back-breaking heavy labor, harassment. More than 40,000 Majdanek inmates died, primarily from disease, debilitation and malnutrition; an unknown number was executed.

The real victims of Majdanek deserve our respect, just as all victims of war and oppression deserve our respect, regardless what nation they belong to. But we are not doing the dead any service by inflating their number for political and propagandistic reasons and by making utterly unfounded claims about the way they died.

The longer a time separates our present from World War Two, the less justification there is for supplementing the real suffering and the real deaths in the Lublin camp with inventions of gargantuan-scale slaughter committed in gas chambers and with mass executions-a slaughter for which there is no trace of proof and which numerous compelling arguments of a historical as well as technical nature speak against.


These two scholars were the first to claim that Jewish inmates constituted 80% of the deaths at Majdanek at
a time when Believer websites were minimizing the percentage of Jewish deaths

Clearly these two guys are not Nazi "apologists." They just don't buy into the sick ridiculous exaggerations of
the 1,400,000 dead propagandists and they have the decency to try and learn what the true story of the victims is.

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Postby Matthew Ellard » Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:38 am

David, the lying holocaust denier wrote: However, I do disagree that Revisionists in general are either Anti-Semitic or Nazi apologists.


Eric Hunt & Fred Berg's new webpage
"According to Caroline Sturdy Colls’ actions, only well-funded (by Zionists) historical dictators like herself, who make propaganda presentations regurgitating Soviet Union derived psychological warfare on television stations owned by Jewish Zionist billionaire Murray Rothstein are allowed to have a say in determining real history."

John DeNugent / His webpage
"As for Caroline Sturdy Colls, I am chagrined how many people have missed the obvious Jewish physical characteristics of this incredibly partial “scientist.” I will endeavor below to lay out the indicators suggesting strongly, though not proving, that she is Jewish, and should so state rather than pretend to be impartial. She has every neanderthalic and thus Eastern Mediteranean feature: –dark hair (reddened by coloring), –curved nose, –protruding mouth, –thrust-forward head. Here is a semi-frontal shot of her (and note the IMO stereotypically ARROGANT Jewish look."

Fred Berg / his webpage
No doubt, Anne Frank and her father were among the Jews who preferred the company of alleged Nazi murderers rather than that of the Soviets. That is why she died in Bergen-Belsen, far to the west, rather than in Auschwitz. The good guys were the Nazis.

Jerzy Ulicki-Rek / on this very forum
Holocaust.jpg

viewtopic.php?f=39&t=18857&p=303989#p303989

David, the lying holocaust denier wrote:Here is a quote by Jurgen Graf

Jurgen Graf
" The Jews invented a story which they've called the Shoa or the Holocaust, and which they now claim is the history of their people. The Holocaust money-making machine has brought them such tremendous advantages, that they can no longer live without it. But they made one fatal error: the Holocaust swindle is so endlessly absurd that its inventors can only take refuge in a suicide charge; having lost all sense of proportion, they have gone too far and will soon come crashing down.(Graf : Holocaust or Hoax?)

Do you want to read the anti-Semitic and Nazi apologist quotes from your other hero, holocaust deniers? I have the quotes ready for you. :D
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David is a hoot.

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Postby scrmbldggs » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:38 am

So are his "Revisionist scholars". They had me in stitches with this treat of their rendering of the text on the provisional March 1942 blueprint discussed in the Majdanek thread: "Temperature Delousing Facility of POW Camp Lublin".

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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:40 pm

Here is something called Borjastick at CODOH recently:
In other words jews were a problem to have in your country because they are not liked. They are not liked because of their behaviour and that triggered the actions by Hitler in what became known as the holocaust.

They are and were not liked because of their lies and deceitful type of activities to those around them.

He then says the zionists predicted the holocaust decades before. That in itself is a hugely important statement. There is a world of difference between making an informed judgement on how a certain future event will turn out and what the zionists were doing. The zionists were lying wholescale about the threat to them by various parties from the first war onwards. They lied about what would happen and what they claimed had happened. They stoked the fires as best they could, in countries around the world, to gain sympathy for the zionist cause. They did not care if non zionist jews were hurt in this process as that would prove their point. In fact zionist to this very day do the same. Netanyahu is encouraged in his zionist beliefs when jews in europe or wherever get hurt or better still killed. They are expendable meat in the quest for total zionist control of all jews within a one state, apartheid controlled country called israel.

The zionists didn't predict the holocaust any more than i can predict next week's Euro Millions lottery numbers. They invented it and ensured it would happen and lied all the way to the bank -The West Bank- to get a zionist state.

Sadly Hitler played into their hands.

But it is impossible to ignore the fact that the people who Hitler wanted removed from Germany, to solve the very real Jewish Problem, have proved why he was so right to do so, by their actions in the zionist state of Israel.

https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9535#p73913

Later in the thread, this one explains,
I've got news for you I am not anti semitic but I am ANTI ASHKENAZI!
"World peace is certainly an ideal worth striving for; in Hitler's opinion it will be realizable only when one power, the racially best one, has attained complete and uncontested supremacy. That can then provide a sort of world police, seeing to it at the same time that the most valuable race is guaranteed the necessary living space. And if no other way is open to them, the lower races will have to restrict themselves accordingly."

- Rudolf Hess, letter, 1927

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Postby Mary Q Contrary » Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:31 pm

David wrote:
Nessie wrote:I thought it would be handy to gather together anti-Semitic and Nazi apology comments by denier/revisionists. Friedrich Berg has just got himself a short ban on RODOH for this

https://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=65380#p65380

"Nessie, You have merely showed everyone once again what a depraved and stupid Jew you really are."

Here Berg rants about how Bomber Harris, Churchill and some other Allied leaders should be burned at the stake

https://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php? ... 256#p65357

I asked Berg if Hitler should burn he responds "The answer to Nessie's obscene suggestion is: "NO."
Hitler did NOT deserve to be executed at all."


Hello Nessie- Mr. Berg is hot headed, cankerous, obnoxious, and generally offensive to everyone including many Revisionists.
He may have a touch of Tourette syndrome.

His personality difficulties should not be an excuse to ignore the breakthrough scientific observations that
Mr. Berg made regarding the impossibility of unloaded diesel engines killing people.
This correct observation has caused significant "revisions" in Holocaust Belief.
The scientific fact is that exhaust from an unloaded diesel engine cannot kill people by CO poisoning.

The second scientific fact that Mr. Berg has pointed out is the physical effect of death by CO poisoning, ie.
first a very marked pink flushing, followed shortly there after by Cherry Red Lividity.
This scientific is exactly opposite from "common sense."
What is amazing is that the "eye witnessing" relating to bodies taken from the CO "gas chambers" at
Treblinka, Chelmo, Majdanek, or Sobibor mention black, purple or yellow bodies but NOT ONE mentions the
correct and striking effects of CO poisoning. Believers have not offered the slightest scientific rebuttal to
Mr. Berg's observation. There is none.

I am not sure why you would want to start a thread dissecting Mr. Berg's personality.
Are you trying to make a point?


His "personality difficulties" as you call them or his anti-semitism as others may say open him up to personal attack. This results in what the author of the OP should readily recognize as a logical fallacy--argumentum ad hominem. As you said, 'His personality difficulties should not be an excuse to ignore the breakthrough scientific observations that Mr. Berg made regarding the impossibility of unloaded diesel engines killing people.' If the man is obnoxious, so what? If he hates Jews, so what? The only thing that matters is if he is right or not.

Nessie's desire to collect anti-semitic quotes from revisionists is nothing more than an attempt to paint all revisionists as anti-semites based upon cherry-picking the words of a few. According to Nessie's "logic" we can cherry pick a few quotes from people like Ovadia Yosef to determine how ALL Jews feel about Gentiles. Once we do this and prove all Jews have a seething hatred for non-Jews, according to Nessie, we can dismiss anything written about the Holocaust by somebody who is Jewish. Because, you know, all Jews are bigots and nothing a bigot says is true.
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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:55 pm

Rodoh is filled with the kind of embarrassing material Nessie's posted here - Nessie posts quite a bit at Rodoh - So necessarily encounters a lot of this sentiment - I missed where Nessie made the claim all deniers are anti-Semites so I hope someone will point that out ...
"World peace is certainly an ideal worth striving for; in Hitler's opinion it will be realizable only when one power, the racially best one, has attained complete and uncontested supremacy. That can then provide a sort of world police, seeing to it at the same time that the most valuable race is guaranteed the necessary living space. And if no other way is open to them, the lower races will have to restrict themselves accordingly."

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Postby Mary Q Contrary » Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:51 pm

Statistical Mechanic wrote:Rodoh is filled with the kind of embarrassing material Nessie's posted here - Nessie posts quite a bit at Rodoh - So necessarily encounters a lot of this sentiment - I missed where Nessie made the claim all deniers are anti-Semites so I hope someone will point that out ...

Oh, I misunderstood. I thought anti-semitism was at the root of revisionism. But StatMech says he doesn't believe Nessie thinks that all revisionists are anti-semites. Does Stat Mech also reject this belief that all revisionists are anti-semites or that anti-semitism is at the root of revisionism?
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Re: Anti-Semitic/Nazi apology comments by denier/revisionists

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:08 pm

I think that there are different motivations for Holocaust denial with anti-Semitism being widely shared. I myself never thought there to be a single root cause for HD, but you're in a better position to know than I am, and you say you think that "anti-semitism was at the root of revisionism." Perhaps your sample size is too small, perhaps you're just reflecting on your own motivation, I don't know, but, ok, I will consider that possibility, though I know of other motives among deniers.

I have no idea what Nessie's view on this is nor, contrary to your post, did I say I knew. I did, however, ask for some examples of what you claimed about Nessie in this thread. I see you can't provide any. But that didn't stop you from making the claim about Nessie's aims and motives. I'm not surprised.
"World peace is certainly an ideal worth striving for; in Hitler's opinion it will be realizable only when one power, the racially best one, has attained complete and uncontested supremacy. That can then provide a sort of world police, seeing to it at the same time that the most valuable race is guaranteed the necessary living space. And if no other way is open to them, the lower races will have to restrict themselves accordingly."

- Rudolf Hess, letter, 1927

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Re: Anti-Semitic/Nazi apology comments by denier/revisionists

Postby Jeff_36 » Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:51 pm

I would put it this way:

85% of deniers are antisemitic to the core. (Berg, Hargis, Graf, Mattogno, Traynor, Harwood, Toben)

15% do not start out as antisemites, but become so. (Butz, Leuchter, Been-There, probably the Daft Rabbit)

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Postby Matthew Ellard » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:45 am

Slightly Unusual Apologists
The forum has had a small number of esoteric hippy posters, join and leave over roughly a six month period. They generally concern themselves with "duality" and quotes from various Eastern gods and wise-men. Their posts are messy and basically repeating what they read on websites. However, one of them started posting very strange comments.

placid wrote: Where do people get the information that Hitler was a nasty Jew-killer?
placid wrote: Hitler had to do something, He was a leader trying to protect his country,
placid wrote: Hitler was coerced into war by forces higher up on the political chessboard,
placid wrote: we cannot hold him entirely responsible for what happened. Hitler was not the baddie that people make him out to be


So, I did some looking around and came across a complete lunatic called Savitri Devi,( real name Maximiani Portas, a French person). In essence this person was a Hindu convert, who somehow amalgamated Hitler and Shiva in her head and thus became a war time and post war Nazi supporter. It is her words that still appear on many Hindu websites.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savitri_Devi

It is my view the esoteric hippy posters on this forum have no idea about history in the slightest, yet they will quote the pro Hitler passages from Savitri Devi, from various websites, as though it is their religious duty as Hindus. It is unusual and interesting and technically "an apologist".

Excerpts from "The last man against time" by Savitri Devi
http://library.flawlesslogic.com/litsun_4.htm

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Re: Anti-Semitic/Nazi apology comments by denier/revisionists

Postby Jeff_36 » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:35 pm

those folks are so airheaded that their comments tend to provoke a simple hand wave.

The areal neo-nazis on the other hand, they provoke rage from honest people like yourself and I.

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Re: Anti-Semitic/Nazi apology comments by denier/revisionists

Postby scrmbldggs » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:46 pm

Yup, those "nondual" twits usually are asked questions like "Why does bad/suffering happen?", often followed by using Hitler and the Holocaust as an example, when they claim that nothing (in their terminology "no thing") ever really happens.

That one was just extraordinarily inept in the spamming by not only adding it him/herself, but also adding justifications to it. :-P

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Postby Jeff_36 » Mon Aug 24, 2015 6:44 pm

the worst nazi apologist by far was Santomauro/Dalton. He tried to maintain a friendly facade, but it would slip every now and then and reveal pure ugliness, such as when he implied that a killing of Jews in 1945 would "justified" due to the bombing campaign, which he attributed to Jews. He was also incredibly stupid and a liar.

There was something called patrick mcnally who wrote a fantastically insane series of articles for some denier website back in 2006. He was by no means a nazi-lover like Berg or Traynor, but rather a left-wing conspiraloon anti-semite like been-there only ten times stupider and thirty times more insane. His articles exposed him as being not just a crude, immature Jew-hater, but most importantly being totally ignorant of the history of the period and the advances made by historians and archivists. He would actually refer to Jews as "j00$" in his "essays", what a freak!
Andrew Mathis tore him to shreds on HC, one of my favorite articles there, you could almost hear Dr. Mathis facepalming in his responses.

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Re: Anti-Semitic/Nazi apology comments by denier/revisionists

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:53 am

Shelby, who is apparently Greg Gerdes using yet another sockpuppet, describes Nessie like this in a bizarre attack on Andy Mathis over at RODOH:
the lying, cowardly and totally discredited Nessie desperately trying to help with a jewvinile logical fallacy.

Jewvinile? Gerdes certainly has a way with words . . .
"World peace is certainly an ideal worth striving for; in Hitler's opinion it will be realizable only when one power, the racially best one, has attained complete and uncontested supremacy. That can then provide a sort of world police, seeing to it at the same time that the most valuable race is guaranteed the necessary living space. And if no other way is open to them, the lower races will have to restrict themselves accordingly."

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Re: Anti-Semitic/Nazi apology comments by denier/revisionists

Postby Jeff_36 » Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:42 am

something called "Ryan" at RODOH started a thread called "what's wrong with antisemitisim?" the text simply says "(deleted)". Das Prussian had a few things to say.....

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Re: Anti-Semitic/Nazi apology comments by denier/revisionists

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:55 pm

Shocking news! Been-there tells all 8 RODOH members that he derives his anti-Semitism from . . . Dolfy! Who knew? LOL. The world according to been-there:
. . . I first came across the term " international jewry" when I read a translation of Hitler's last testament about four years ago. I wasn't familiar with the term and presumed it was a paranoic delusion as a result of Hitler's anti-semitism.
That I now regard as a sign of how well I (and many millions of others) have been misinformed and conditioned to reject reality.

The facts as I see them now, are that not only was Hitler referring to and attempting to combat a very real phenomena, it is STILL a very real phenomena, but one that is not allowed to be discussed after WW2. . . .

In his Political Testament, Dolfy described "international Jewry" as "the universal poisoner of all peoples." He also wrote that he was certain that, Germany in ruins, "the hatred against those finally responsible whom we have to thank for everything, international Jewry and its helpers, will grow." He said that Britain went to war with Germany "partly under influence of propaganda organized by international Jewry." He bragged about his one lasting achievement - the Final Solution: "I have also made it quite plain that, if the nations of Europe are again to be regarded as mere shares to be bought and sold by these international conspirators in money and finance, then that race, Jewry, which is the real criminal of this murderous struggle, will be saddled with the responsibility. I further left no one in doubt that this time not only would millions of children of Europe's Aryan peoples die of hunger, not only would millions of grown men suffer death, and not only hundreds of thousands of women and children be burnt and bombed to death in the towns, without the real criminal having to atone for this guilt, even if by more humane means."
"World peace is certainly an ideal worth striving for; in Hitler's opinion it will be realizable only when one power, the racially best one, has attained complete and uncontested supremacy. That can then provide a sort of world police, seeing to it at the same time that the most valuable race is guaranteed the necessary living space. And if no other way is open to them, the lower races will have to restrict themselves accordingly."

- Rudolf Hess, letter, 1927

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Re: Anti-Semitic/Nazi apology comments by denier/revisionists

Postby Jeff_36 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:40 am

there is no such thing as international Jewry.

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Re: Anti-Semitic/Nazi apology comments by denier/revisionists

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:53 am

{!#%@}, next you will tell me that Jews aren't the universal poisoner of all peoples and the wire pullers behind WWII . . .
"World peace is certainly an ideal worth striving for; in Hitler's opinion it will be realizable only when one power, the racially best one, has attained complete and uncontested supremacy. That can then provide a sort of world police, seeing to it at the same time that the most valuable race is guaranteed the necessary living space. And if no other way is open to them, the lower races will have to restrict themselves accordingly."

- Rudolf Hess, letter, 1927


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