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Postby David » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:09 am

British Broadcast Company has ignored the potentially significant anti-free speech prosecution of Alison Chabloz... She being criminally charged for posting an allegedly “grossly offensive” video making fun of the exploitation of the Holocaust, (she called Auschwitz a “theme park” and sang about some very questionable survivor tales.) There is more to the case but it is useful in exploring the idea of what is "grossly offensive"
enough to be criminal.

The BBC has gone into “fringe” comedy with its skit Real Housewives of ISIS.
Many people find it "grossly offensive" too.
Arab women compare explosive vests, talk about what they will wear to a beheading, and
live in bombed out buildings. The “show” based on American series The Real Housewives of Orange County
is part of a new six-parter written by Heydon Prowse and Jolyon Rubinstein,

Check it out at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOB6UDC-67w

or https://www.funker530.com/real-housewives-isis/

What should be banned?...if anything.

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Re: House wives of ISIS vs. Alison Chabloz

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:14 am

Is she the one who plays piano, makes demented goo-goo eyes, and sing-chants crap songs?
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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:20 am

David wrote:What should be banned?...if anything.

Nothing should ever be banned. Especially not bad music and piss-poor, failed attempts at sick humor.
Nazism conspired to create a sense of festival time. . . . Tragically for humanity, the party generating it was the type not associated with the coloured costumes of the Brazilian Carnival, but with the brown-shirted thuggery of the NSDAP. The contrast between the dance and the march, between the samba and the strains of the Horst Wessel Lied, points to the gulf separating a life-asserting community from a community which exists only by creating a demonized other. - RG '97

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Re: House wives of ISIS vs. Alison Chabloz

Postby Gord » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:34 am

http://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/ali ... -in-court/

Chabloz, from Glossop in Derbyshire, is due in court after a private prosecution was brought by the Campaign Against Antisemitism (CAA). The charity said it took the decision because “the Crown Prosecution Service failed to prosecute [Chabloz]”.

Yay!
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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:35 am

LOL

I could see an outpouring of sentiment in favor of banning David's dumb threads to go along with this . . .
Nazism conspired to create a sense of festival time. . . . Tragically for humanity, the party generating it was the type not associated with the coloured costumes of the Brazilian Carnival, but with the brown-shirted thuggery of the NSDAP. The contrast between the dance and the march, between the samba and the strains of the Horst Wessel Lied, points to the gulf separating a life-asserting community from a community which exists only by creating a demonized other. - RG '97

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Postby Jeffk 1970 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:42 am

David wrote:British Broadcast Company has ignored the potentially significant anti-free speech prosecution of Alison Chabloz... She being criminally charged for posting an allegedly “grossly offensive” video making fun of the exploitation of the Holocaust, (she called Auschwitz a “theme park” and sang about some very questionable survivor tales.) There is more to the case but it is useful in exploring the idea of what is "grossly offensive"
enough to be criminal.

The BBC has gone into “fringe” comedy with its skit Real Housewives of ISIS.
Many people find it "grossly offensive" too.
Arab women compare explosive vests, talk about what they will wear to a beheading, and
live in bombed out buildings. The “show” based on American series The Real Housewives of Orange County
is part of a new six-parter written by Heydon Prowse and Jolyon Rubinstein,

Check it out at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOB6UDC-67w

or https://www.funker530.com/real-housewives-isis/

What should be banned?...if anything.


Nice to have you back, David.

BTW, how was Montana? Seems like you are back a little early.....

Also, I came across some of your old threads about the Jews from Denmark and Bulgaria. If you'd like I can pull them forward and we can talk about them.

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Re: House wives of ISIS vs. Alison Chabloz

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:00 am

Jeffk 1970 wrote:BTW, how was Montana? Seems like you are back a little early......

I got hold of privately shot video of David performing in pre-march/rally festivities in Whitefish. Great stuff. You can sense the true love of the locals for David as well as their commitment to dealing with the Jew.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb3IMTJjzfo
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:lol:

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Re: House wives of ISIS vs. Alison Chabloz

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:10 am

Jeffk 1970 wrote: . . . I came across some of your old threads about the Jews from Denmark and Bulgaria. . . .

I came across an old map where David marked the locations of Denmark and Bulgaria. This should be an interesting discussion.

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Re: House wives of ISIS vs. Alison Chabloz

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:11 am

:lol:

This feels like a David drive by.

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Re: House wives of ISIS vs. Alison Chabloz

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:43 am

Alison Chabloz, oh, yeah. Crazy googley eyes lady.

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Re: House wives of ISIS vs. Alison Chabloz

Postby David » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:41 am

Gord wrote:http://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/alison-chabloz-in-court/

Chabloz, from Glossop in Derbyshire, is due in court after a private prosecution was brought by the Campaign Against Antisemitism (CAA). The charity said it took the decision because “the Crown Prosecution Service failed to prosecute [Chabloz]”.

Yay!



Yay!? My poor ignorant Believer fanatic who would let slip the hounds of
private prosecution for violation of Section 127(1)(a) of the Malicious Communications Act 2003,
on some poor women singing slightly off key.

Read the f*k'n law Gord.

Section 127 Improper use of public electronic communications network
(1) A person is guilty of an offence if he-
(a) sends by means of a public electronic communications network a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character;

" grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene"...sh*t F*k man, that is half the crap that is posted!
Every manjack in this forum has posted something that offends somebody.



There is no need for intent to harass or insult. Truth is not mentioned as a defense.
The Law Lords have defined grossly offensive very loosely...a message that is grossly offensive to "whom it relates."



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Re: House wives of ISIS vs. Alison Chabloz

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:23 am

David wrote:
Gord wrote:http://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/alison-chabloz-in-court/

Chabloz, from Glossop in Derbyshire, is due in court after a private prosecution was brought by the Campaign Against Antisemitism (CAA). The charity said it took the decision because “the Crown Prosecution Service failed to prosecute [Chabloz]”.

Yay!



Yay!? My poor ignorant Believer fanatic who would let slip the hounds of
private prosecution for violation of Section 127(1)(a) of the Malicious Communications Act 2003,
on some poor women singing slightly off key.

Read the f*k'n law Gord.

Section 127 Improper use of public electronic communications network
(1) A person is guilty of an offence if he-
(a) sends by means of a public electronic communications network a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character;

" grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene"...sh*t F*k man, that is half the crap that is posted!
Every manjack in this forum has posted something that offends somebody.



There is no need for intent to harass or insult. Truth is not mentioned as a defense.
The Law Lords have defined grossly offensive very loosely...a message that is grossly offensive to "whom it relates."




Oddly, I agree with you on this David. The poor crazy googley eyes lady doesn't need to be prosecuted. She needs therapy. And music lessons.

My take on this is:
Did she threaten someone?
No.
Did she incite violence?
No.

If she did none of these things she has every right to be a crass jackass.

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Re: House wives of ISIS vs. Alison Chabloz

Postby scrmbldggs » Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:48 am

Anyone know the exact charges of that private prosecution by the CAA? They aren't listed in the article Gord posted.
Hi, Io the lurker.

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Re: House wives of ISIS vs. Alison Chabloz

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:40 am

Jeffk 1970 wrote:
David wrote:
Gord wrote:http://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/alison-chabloz-in-court/

Chabloz, from Glossop in Derbyshire, is due in court after a private prosecution was brought by the Campaign Against Antisemitism (CAA). The charity said it took the decision because “the Crown Prosecution Service failed to prosecute [Chabloz]”.

Yay!



Yay!? My poor ignorant Believer fanatic who would let slip the hounds of
private prosecution for violation of Section 127(1)(a) of the Malicious Communications Act 2003,
on some poor women singing slightly off key.

Read the f*k'n law Gord.

Section 127 Improper use of public electronic communications network
(1) A person is guilty of an offence if he-
(a) sends by means of a public electronic communications network a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character;

" grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene"...sh*t F*k man, that is half the crap that is posted!
Every manjack in this forum has posted something that offends somebody.



There is no need for intent to harass or insult. Truth is not mentioned as a defense.
The Law Lords have defined grossly offensive very loosely...a message that is grossly offensive to "whom it relates."




Oddly, I agree with you on this David. The poor crazy googley eyes lady doesn't need to be prosecuted. She needs therapy. And music lessons.

My take on this is:
Did she threaten someone?
No.
Did she incite violence?
No.

If she did none of these things she has every right to be a crass jackass.

Exactly. Especially the music lessons. But that's up to her, too. We can only hope.
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Re: House wives of ISIS vs. Alison Chabloz

Postby Jeff_36 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:49 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Jeffk 1970 wrote: . . . I came across some of your old threads about the Jews from Denmark and Bulgaria. . . .

I came across an old map where David marked the locations of Denmark and Bulgaria. This should be an interesting discussion.

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Brilliant.

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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:58 pm

In a less than inspiring opinion piece on Milo Yiannopoulos’s Simon & Schuster deal, Sam Sedgman writes
Defending free speech often means finding yourself in the difficult position of having to defend people who say disgusting things. People who make jokes about rape; Holocaust deniers; straight-up racists. Though we might not like what these people say, it’s important that they’re allowed to say it. You can’t go around censoring people just because you don’t agree with them. If we can’t all express what we think, then we can’t talk to each other about our ideas. We can’t have a discussion; we can’t improve; we can’t function as a society.

This is pretty standard fare in the US, despite what David, with his delusions of persecution, tries to put over. Interestingly, in his piece, Sedgman - after defending the speech rights of Holocaust deniers - concludes relative to Yiannopooulos that
For free speech organisations to stand up and defend Yiannopoulos is a dangerous miscalculation.
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Re: House wives of ISIS vs. Alison Chabloz

Postby Gord » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:38 pm

David wrote:
Gord wrote:http://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/alison-chabloz-in-court/

Chabloz, from Glossop in Derbyshire, is due in court after a private prosecution was brought by the Campaign Against Antisemitism (CAA). The charity said it took the decision because “the Crown Prosecution Service failed to prosecute [Chabloz]”.

Yay!

Yay!?

A-yup.

My poor ignorant Believer fanatic who would let slip the hounds of
private prosecution for violation of Section 127(1)(a) of the Malicious Communications Act 2003,
on some poor women singing slightly off key.

...Wait, are you talkin' t' me still?... :|

Read the f*k'n law Gord.

Section 127 Improper use of public electronic communications network
(1) A person is guilty of an offence if he-
(a) sends by means of a public electronic communications network a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character;

" grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene"...sh*t F*k man, that is half the crap that is posted!
Every manjack in this forum has posted something that offends somebody.

There is no need for intent to harass or insult. Truth is not mentioned as a defense.
The Law Lords have defined grossly offensive very loosely...a message that is grossly offensive to "whom it relates."

Are you aware that it is a private prosecution that was brought by a private group in the UK? You could do it too. Go for it! Initiate a private prosecution against someone who has sent by means of a public electronic communications network a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character.

No, I did not "let slip the hounds of private prosecution", nor am I necessarily in favour of it. But UK courts can use the Human Rights Act 1998 to declare legislation to be incompatible with the European Convention on Human Rights and require Parliament to consider amending the law to render it compatible with the provisions of the Convention rights.

In other words, every court case is a test of the law.

But I think it's important to understand what the law means when it speaks of something that is "grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character". You appear not to understand that when you define her as "some poor women singing slightly off key". Other parts of you post also make you seem quite ignorant of the law, as well. "[A] message that is grossly offensive to 'whom it relates'" is important legally to define who can raise the case; if someone is making menacing threats against another person, YOU can't make the case unless it relates to you. You can't just say "I don't like the way Jimmy McJimface keeps talking about going back in time and killing Hitler" and take him to court over that.
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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:55 pm

good points, Gord, which means that they will be lost on David
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Postby Jeffk 1970 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:59 pm

I doubt David is paying attention, he's got his hands full in Montana.

One of the planned events:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a952gCabSCQ

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LOL
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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:10 am

David should be back here soon, wittering about free speech and the clampdown on brave truthtellers: "Short $60 And A Proper Permit, Neo-Nazi Site Calls Off March On Montana Town". From the sounds of it, basic literacy skills appear to have been missing among the truthtellers. Because of "Jew trickery," Anglin promises a march in Whitefish in February. So David should keep his suitcase packed.
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I can see the thread now.......
"Believers prevent brave thought warriors from bringing the truth to Montana."
I bet Greg Gerdes is having an apocalyptic {!#%@} fit right now. I'm hoping he'll explode from exasperation.

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Jeffk 1970 wrote:I can see the thread now.......
"Believers prevent brave thought warriors from bringing the truth to Montana."
I bet Greg Gerdes is having an apocalyptic {!#%@} fit right now. I'm hoping he'll explode from exasperation.

He's probably trying to come up with sixty bucks. {!#%@} morons.
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I can see Greg frantically digging through his seat cushions, emptying his coffee cans filled with pennies, selling his plasma....

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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:38 am

LOL
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Postby Jeffk 1970 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:38 am

Whitefish officials told the Flathead Beacon earlier this week that The Daily Stormer, a neo-Nazi site, submitted an incomplete special event permit that lacked a certificate of insurance, map of the planned march route, and other basic elements of the special event checklist. The $65 money order attached to the application was also $60 short of the $125 the town charges to hold parades.

Whitefish City Manager Chuck Stearns told the Flathead Beacon that he could not “act on an incomplete application.”

Daily Stormer publisher Andrew Anglin announced online Wednesday that the march would have to be rescheduled because the town did not process its permit.

“I have spoken at length with my lawyers – though the ACLU has yet to respond to my inquiry – and we’ve decided that due to the permit refusal by the city of Whitefish, we will need to postpone the planned march,” he wrote in a post that blamed the delay on “Jewish trickery.”


:lol:
I guess Anglin can't follow basic instructions.

What an ass hat.

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Jeffk 1970 wrote:I can see Greg frantically digging through his seat cushions, emptying his coffee cans filled with pennies, selling his plasma....


Worse: Donating to a sperm bank... although the good news here is his can't swim.

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Xcalibur wrote:
Jeffk 1970 wrote:I can see Greg frantically digging through his seat cushions, emptying his coffee cans filled with pennies, selling his plasma....


Worse: Donating to a sperm bank... although the good news here is his can't swim.


I think one look at him would convince the sperm bank to pay him NOT to donate.

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Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Xcalibur wrote:
Jeffk 1970 wrote:I can see Greg frantically digging through his seat cushions, emptying his coffee cans filled with pennies, selling his plasma....


Worse: Donating to a sperm bank... although the good news here is his can't swim.


I think one look at him would convince the sperm bank to pay him NOT to donate.


Indeed, although they could try and sell them at a discount to a lab specializing in genetic defects...

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:lol:

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Postby Jeffk 1970 » Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:04 am

I’m gonna give this a bump for David, he’s been lurking about for a couple of days.

Don’t be shy, David. Come on down!!!!

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Postby Gord » Sat Nov 11, 2017 1:21 pm

Hey, check it out! David's original claim is truer now!

http://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/ant ... and-trial/

October 4, 2017...

...During Wednesday’s hearing Chabloz was arrested and taken for questioning on suspicion of further offences and proceedings continued without her.

Chabloz, 53, of Town Lane, Charlesworth, in Glossop, Derbyshire, originally faced a private prosecution by a Jewish charity after the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) decided not to pursue the case....

...The CPS later reversed its decision not to prosecute and pressed charges against Chabloz in March.

She is charged with two counts of sending by a public communications network an offensive, indecent or menacing message or material.

She also faces two alternative counts of “causing” offensive material to be sent by a public communications network after her performance at the London Forum was posted on her blog....

...On Wednesday, District Judge John Zani listed her trial for January 10 next year, while a further preliminary hearing was listed for October 25. She is due to enter her pleas to the charges at the next hearing.

It's not a private prosecution anymore, it's a Crown prosecution.

Yay!
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