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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:52 pm

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Balmoral95 wrote:Mahr is a moron.


He's an ass, but he can be absolutely bang on at times and his zingers are often side-splitting. He earned my respect when he had a bunch of troothers kicked out of his audience.

He never earned my respect - being a smug wise-ass isn't that hard or worthy to be; also, I've never found him funny. Granted, I gave up on him in the '90s as he wasn't funny and was already repetitive.
"World peace is certainly an ideal worth striving for; in Hitler's opinion it will be realizable only when one power, the racially best one, has attained complete and uncontested supremacy. That can then provide a sort of world police, seeing to it at the same time that the most valuable race is guaranteed the necessary living space. And if no other way is open to them, the lower races will have to restrict themselves accordingly."

- Rudolf Hess, letter, 1927

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Statistical Mechanic wrote: He never earned my respect - being a smug wise-ass isn't that hard or worthy to be; also, I've never found him funny. Granted, I gave up on him in the '90s as he wasn't funny and was already repetitive.



Who do you think is "funny" SM? /// What did Maher say that pissed you off????
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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:09 pm

Georgia Democrats are telling POLITICO that if Ossoff loses in Georgia's 6th district it's not the end of the world. Already they're offering explanations for why they'd lose and letting on that a close race in GA 6th is a moral victory. Meanwhile more classy behavior from the Georgia Republicans: "I’ll tell you what: I think the [Alexandria] shooting is going to win this election for us. Because moderates and independents in this district are tired of left-wing extremism."
"World peace is certainly an ideal worth striving for; in Hitler's opinion it will be realizable only when one power, the racially best one, has attained complete and uncontested supremacy. That can then provide a sort of world police, seeing to it at the same time that the most valuable race is guaranteed the necessary living space. And if no other way is open to them, the lower races will have to restrict themselves accordingly."

- Rudolf Hess, letter, 1927

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Statistical Mechanic wrote:Lately this song has been running through my head. It seems apposite here, there, and everywhere. Except we seem to be going beyond the stage of clubs and fists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKd-QPKaBDQ

(The Guardian and CNN are reporting three people seriously injured in what appears to be a terrorist attack against Muslim worshippers during Ramadan at Finsbury Park Mosque. Although other reports say that the people attacked were leaving not the mosque but the nearby Muslim Welfare House. One person under arrest. No tweets yet from Trump. He's looking up alternative definitions for terrorism online.)


Shall we start the clock running to see how long it will take him to tweet about this? The only possible reason for him to do so would be to get elaborate praise for being "presidential." It doesn't fit his narrative about the clear and present danger from immigrants.

Of course, if he's even stupider than I think he is (which is barely imaginable), he'll try the same trick he used with the attack in Iran and blame the victims for having brought it on themselves by their terrorist connections. Surely, even he couldn't be that stupid, could he?
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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:18 pm

John Oliver's staff dug up a great quotation from Trump, 1990, Playboy magazine interview, on how the Orange One really feels about coal mining: “If I had been the son of a coal miner, I would have left the damn mines. But most people don’t have the imagination—or whatever—to leave their mine. They don’t have ‘it.’”
"World peace is certainly an ideal worth striving for; in Hitler's opinion it will be realizable only when one power, the racially best one, has attained complete and uncontested supremacy. That can then provide a sort of world police, seeing to it at the same time that the most valuable race is guaranteed the necessary living space. And if no other way is open to them, the lower races will have to restrict themselves accordingly."

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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:27 pm

Poor snowflake, it's Twitter's fault Trump uses the platform to post stupid things: "There's a limitation on Twitter, as we all know," as Jay Sekulow explained to CNN this weekend.
"World peace is certainly an ideal worth striving for; in Hitler's opinion it will be realizable only when one power, the racially best one, has attained complete and uncontested supremacy. That can then provide a sort of world police, seeing to it at the same time that the most valuable race is guaranteed the necessary living space. And if no other way is open to them, the lower races will have to restrict themselves accordingly."

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"World peace is certainly an ideal worth striving for; in Hitler's opinion it will be realizable only when one power, the racially best one, has attained complete and uncontested supremacy. That can then provide a sort of world police, seeing to it at the same time that the most valuable race is guaranteed the necessary living space. And if no other way is open to them, the lower races will have to restrict themselves accordingly."

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Nasty piece of work, that guy!
"A general conversion among the boys was once effected by the late excellent Mr. Fletcher: one poor boy only excepted, who unfortunately resisted the influence of the Holy Spirit, for which he was severely flogged; which did not fail of the desired effect, and impressed proper notions of religion on his mind."

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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:08 pm

Once you are known as a White Supremacist..... is there anything else that need be known before ignoring them?
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As Shakespeare companies around the US report receiving harassing notes and death threats, Erick Erickson loses his marbles, "The political left is becoming the American ISIS," he blogged, "Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant and then it seeks to silence good. Evil is now dominant. . . . Too many [liberals] regret there were no deaths" in the Alexandria shooting.

Erickson explained, "From Nazism to Communism to progressivism itself, there has been more butchery from leftwing ideologies throughout human history than from the right — and yes despite popular historic revisionism, Nazism is from the left and had an American progressive fan club that included Margaret Sanger, patron saint of killing kids."

Solution? "The only escape is dissolution. We should part ways if we cannot have federalism. We should start talking about secession. If both sides have decided that every hill is a hill to die on and control of Washington means reward for their friends and punishment of their enemies, we need to end Washington. The way to do that is end the union. . . . Both sides are out for blood. The only way to calm the situation is for us to part ways."
"World peace is certainly an ideal worth striving for; in Hitler's opinion it will be realizable only when one power, the racially best one, has attained complete and uncontested supremacy. That can then provide a sort of world police, seeing to it at the same time that the most valuable race is guaranteed the necessary living space. And if no other way is open to them, the lower races will have to restrict themselves accordingly."

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Once you are known as losing your marbles ..... is there anything else that need be known before ignoring them?
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Sounds like a good idea to me, since the self-declared "not-left" would have all the bankrupt rural states with no federal government to bail them out.
The prosperous blue states could buy them out for cents on the dollar and turn them into wildlife sanctuaries and historical theme parks.
The locals would, of course get resettled in Guam or some place like that.
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I'd say let them have Texas. Only. And build that damn wall. On its western, northern and eastern borders. Only.


(And guess who's paying for it. :mrgreen: )
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I could have sworn we bombed {!#%@} like that into oblivion in 1944-45 LOL

Here he is expressing admiration for ISIS
isis is an identity movement. Because they have ideas........Also, they are a grassroots movement. They’ve built themselves up fast, from nothing.”


Here he is dreaming up his own personal Theodore Eicke method to be used on normal folks
Spencer fantasized about the reversal of fortune that might come if the fund-raiser’s enemies should gain more power. “If the alt-right triumphs, we’re going to probably throw you in jail. We’ll hold you guys accountable.”


Here he is pandering to {!#%@} Marxism
“My upbringing did not really inform who I am,” Spencer said with a shrug. Then he reconsidered. “I think in a lot of ways I reacted against Dallas. It’s a class- and money-conscious place—whoever has the biggest car or the biggest house or the biggest fake boobs,” he told me. “There’s no actual community or high culture or sense of greatness, outside of having a McMansion.”

Italicizing the S it seems......

This is weird
He is married to a Russian Canadian woman, Nina Kouprianova, who lives with their toddler daughter in Montana.

Nazis loathe slavs and plotted to decimate them by starvation, enslave most of them, and sterilize certain populations. Poles were to be denied medical care. What the {!#%@} is going on here??? Je Suis Confusee

He lasted just one academic year at Colgate before transferring to the University of Virginia, where he majored in music history and English.

Sounds like a total liberal snowflake to me lol.

Here he is identifying Nietzsche as an inspiration - ignoring the latter's hatred of racialism and antisemitism.
Spencer started off with Nietzsche’s On the Genealogy of Morals, a systematic dismantling of the moral and religious truths of European civilization. Nietzsche saw Christianity as a slave religion, a consolation to the weak. Spencer says that the general effect, an inversion of his moral universe, was “shattering.”

I too read "On the Genealogy of Morals" in University. It was {!#%@}. Burke, Hegel, and St. Augustine had a far more significant impact personally.

Here he is envisioning Planned parenthood as a mechanism for racial eugenics.
he favors legal access to abortion—partly to reduce the number of blacks and Hispanics.


Spencer graduated from UVA in 2001, then proceeded to the University of Chicago for a master’s degree in humanities.

Snooooooooooowwwwwwwwflllllaaaaaake!!!!!!!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

His theory of "white racial identity" is massivly problematic to the point of being laughable.
Spencer told me the Volksgeist he advocated was that of white Christendom, a group with indistinct geographical borders, but roughly including European peoples, from Iberia to the Caucasus, who were Christian as of a few hundred years ago.


Ok, where do I start? Earlier, Spencer cited the German concept of Volksgeist (spirit of people) to define his conception of race. His definition of his imaginary white race violates those very tenants. There are massive differences in culture, habits, outlooks, and politics between someone from Aberdeen, Scotland, and someone from, say, Tbilisi - they speak different languages, are different colors, adhere to deeply different churches and have had massively different upbringings. They eat different food, drink different liquor and have different concerns and fears. Everything about the Volksgeist of the peoples in the geographic area he mentioned is different. I cannot think of even one similarity, not even one.

For the record the concept of Volksgeist is a flawed one - but I am showing that Spencer's theories faceplant in the face of their own inspiration. I am also rather confused and irritated by his insistence upon Christianity as the common factor in his imaginary fairy race when he himself is an anti-theist who, like Nietzsche , loathes the Christianity and its tenants.

Additionally, is someone of different racial or religious origin not 100% capable of assuming the national Volksgeist of his country? Does Henry Kissinger, having both fought in the Battle of the Bulge and overseen the American incursion into Cambodia, not symbolize both the very best and very worst elements of the American Volksgeist? I know several individuals, the children of Indian or Chinese immigrants, who embody the Canadian national Volksgeist as much as I do. Ted Cruz,despite being of partial Hispanic origin, is basically your garden variety Texan redneck. These may not be great examples, but the national spirit of any state worth its salt does not draw from race - it can be taken up by anyone who deems himself worthy of it.

When confronted by this contradiction, Spencer states:
“I could just sit here masturbating in my own filth,”

ummm, yeah, ok then...... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

And interesting exchange here:
I asked whether I, as someone who is half-Chinese but had a classical Western education, would fit within his group, and he hedged, impishly. “I’m a generous guy,” he told me. “If you truly identify with our people, I would not have any problem with that.” But there were genetic deal breakers. “A full-blooded African, no matter how wonderful he might be—I’m not sure that would really work.”


So is Colin Powell not American? Freddie Stowers? Who the {!#%@} does Spencer even think he is right now?

Here are some concepts that Ian Hazard Spencer associates with "whiteness"
power, strength, beauty, agency, accomplishment.


Last time I checked those attributes could be gained by anyone from any ethnicity who acquired or possessed them, whites included.

The author is bang on about how Spencer's ideas constitute the classic definition of fascism.
Spencer emerges from a darker tradition, one that sees American values as something not to restore, but to replace.

He is not the Slazar or Metaxes that his defenders alleged him to be - he is more like Hitler or Mussolini, a propagator of a violent New Order.

The author then compares Spencers style to that of William F. Buckley. I dispute this hotly. Buckley was a traditionalist, a man who sought to preserve the order of his time. He was also a much better talker than Spencer, who comes off as creepy and vaguely deviant.

No, for me Spencer has much more in common with Gore Vidal, they are actually strikingly similar - both saw the west as diseased and decedent, and sought to sweep it away and replace it with something new. Vidal's ideology was really no more than an extension of his ego and the same can be said for Spencer. They both used trolling and cheap one-liners where greater men would have risen to the occasion on the back of coherent, explanatory speech. Vidal, in his later years, became a bit of a racist and a critic of immigration.

So yes, in many ways Spencer is the inbred lovechild of Gore Vidal and Himmler. And like Buckley, I would be happy to sock him in his {!#%@}' face until he remains plastered.

So there.

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From just reading your post, he seems to consider the Unifying Spirit to be the absolute worship of a White Christ. Ya know, the one that looks like the maintenance guy of a trailer park. And it's OK to be of various hues if you do that, just not the basic black.

Is he fantasizing about 'embodying' that Rural Christ?


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...At issue is whether Republican lawmakers in Wisconsin drew legislative districts that favored their party and were so out of whack with the state's political breakdown that they violated the constitutional rights of Democratic voters.

...A lower court struck down the districts as unconstitutional last year.

The justices won't hear the arguments until the fall, but the case has already taken on a distinctly ideological, if not partisan, tone. Just 90 minutes after justices announced Monday that they would hear the case, the five more conservative justices voted to halt a lower court's order to redraw the state's legislative districts by November, in time for next year's elections...
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Statistical Mechanic wrote:As Shakespeare companies around the US report receiving harassing notes and death threats, Erick Erickson loses his marbles, "The political left is becoming the American ISIS," he blogged, "Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant and then it seeks to silence good. Evil is now dominant. . . . Too many [liberals] regret there were no deaths" in the Alexandria shooting.

Erickson explained, "From Nazism to Communism to progressivism itself, there has been more butchery from leftwing ideologies throughout human history than from the right — and yes despite popular historic revisionism, Nazism is from the left and had an American progressive fan club that included Margaret Sanger, patron saint of killing kids."

Solution? "The only escape is dissolution. We should part ways if we cannot have federalism. We should start talking about secession. If both sides have decided that every hill is a hill to die on and control of Washington means reward for their friends and punishment of their enemies, we need to end Washington. The way to do that is end the union. . . . Both sides are out for blood. The only way to calm the situation is for us to part ways."


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Mayor: That was a Shakespeare-in-the-park performance of Julius Caesar, you idiot! You killed four actors....and they were GOOD actors.
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ElectricMonk wrote:Sounds like a good idea to me, since the self-declared "not-left" would have all the bankrupt rural states with no federal government to bail them out.
The prosperous blue states could buy them out for cents on the dollar and turn them into wildlife sanctuaries and historical theme parks.
The locals would, of course get resettled in Guam or some place like that.

Well if we do it by states for sure . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7fgB0m_y2I

OTOH, Mississippi and elsewhere won't be leaving "ISIS" but that's a minor discrepancy.
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scrmbldggs wrote:I'd say let them have Texas. Only. And build that damn wall. On its western, northern and eastern borders. Only.


(And guess who's paying for it. :mrgreen: )

But what about Austin?
"World peace is certainly an ideal worth striving for; in Hitler's opinion it will be realizable only when one power, the racially best one, has attained complete and uncontested supremacy. That can then provide a sort of world police, seeing to it at the same time that the most valuable race is guaranteed the necessary living space. And if no other way is open to them, the lower races will have to restrict themselves accordingly."

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scrmbldggs wrote:I'd say let them have Texas. Only. And build that damn wall. On its western, northern and eastern borders. Only.


(And guess who's paying for it. :mrgreen: )

But what about Austin?

He already moved north, now we gotta find a nice place for Az and family. :-P
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Jeff_36 wrote:I too read "On the Genealogy of Morals" in University. It was {!#%@}. Burke, Hegel, and St. Augustine had a far more significant impact personally.

I read that book twice because it had virtually no impact on me the first time and I know it's important. 2nd time didn't help.

Jeff_36 wrote:His theory of "white racial identity" is massivly problematic to the point of being laughable.

It is hard to make a rational theory out of racism, a point Spencer proves all to well.

Jeff_36 wrote:the concept of Volksgeist is a flawed one

But he traces it to the Fatherland.

Jeff_36 wrote:. . . whether I, as someone who is half-Chinese but had a classical Western education

I failed to look at the byline until after reading the whole piece and could discern only that no amateur wrote it: Graeme Wood's stuff on ISIS is IMO really good. It was interesting to learn a bit about him via this route.

Jeff_36 wrote:So is Colin Powell not American? Freddie Stowers? Who the {!#%@} does Spencer even think he is right now?

In a land dominated by mud people who are screwing up his dreams of an ethno-state. The best aspects of America - at least the parts I like most - repel him.

Jeff_36 wrote:Here are some concepts that Ian Hazard Spencer associates with "whiteness"
power, strength, beauty, agency, accomplishment.


Last time I checked those attributes could be gained by anyone from any ethnicity who acquired or possessed them, whites included.

As could collaborative and cooperative ways of working. Despite his education, Spencer is not a deep thinker.

Jeff_36 wrote:The author is bang on about how Spencer's ideas constitute the classic definition of fascism.

That caught my eye too: no beating around the bush.

Jeff_36 wrote:The author then compares Spencers style to that of William F. Buckley. I dispute this hotly. Buckley was a traditionalist, a man who sought to preserve the order of his time. He was also a much better talker than Spencer, who comes off as creepy and vaguely deviant.

I thought Wood made that clear - he wrote, "Spencer . . . told me that he wanted to be the alt-right’s William F. Buckley Jr. . . . Spencer lacks [Buckley's] suave touch, but he tries to work a lowbrow form of the same magic, through the obnoxious, needling harassment that he and his shitlords call trolling."

Jeff_36 wrote:No, for me Spencer has much more in common with Gore Vidal, they are actually strikingly similar

No they're not. Spencer could not write Burr - hell, he couldn't manage a debate against Vidal - he has more in common with Madonna.

Jeff_36 wrote:And like Buckley, I would be happy to sock him in his {!#%@}' face until he remains plastered.

I thought one part of the piece that was really good was the part where Wood led Spencer to realize that his attacks on rights, humanity, normal processes, "Darwinian struggle," democracy and in favor of taking what your supposed group wants, etc - and that in a way Spencer himself has justified in this way his opponents likewise placing him outside the circle of humanity and making him fair game.
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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:56 pm

Upton_O_Goode wrote:Officer Frank Drebin: When I see a bunch of weirdos wearing togas stabbing a man to death, I start shooting.

Mayor: That was a Shakespeare-in-the-park performance of Julius Caesar, you idiot! You killed four actors....and they were GOOD actors.

LOL
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:57 pm

scrmbldggs wrote:
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scrmbldggs wrote:I'd say let them have Texas. Only. And build that damn wall. On its western, northern and eastern borders. Only.


(And guess who's paying for it. :mrgreen: )

But what about Austin?

He already moved north, now we gotta find a nice place for Az and family. :-P

"the only trouble with Austin is it's surrounded by Texas"
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:58 pm

Many news reports that Trump will be moving Sphincter to a new role: the so-called president is apparently less pleased with Mr Spicer's performance than has been the Black Rabbit of Inlé.
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby scrmbldggs » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:08 am

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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Balmoral95 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:12 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:Many news reports that Trump will be moving Sphincter to a new role: the so-called president is apparently less pleased with Mr Spicer's performance than has been the Black Rabbit of Inlé.


According to ABC this evening the WH will not be releasing any future video of Spicer.... Stalinesque? :lol: :lol:

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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:14 am

LOL but I will wait for our insightful cultural commissar Rabbit to explain it. :p
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Balmoral95 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:06 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:LOL but I will wait for our insightful cultural commissar Rabbit to explain it. :p



BRoI and Bannon prolly got lots to talk about....

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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Balmoral95 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:30 am

Okay, pinch me, did DJT actually get through a full day w/o saying something stupid?

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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby scrmbldggs » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:05 am

You're outta luck if you're looking for only one thing. I read earlier he twittered the same garbage attacking Ossoff twice in a row today. :lol:

(Dunno if he actually deleted the first attempt, I noticed he added a word to the second time around.)
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Balmoral95 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:15 am

scrmbldggs wrote:You're outta luck if you're looking for only one thing. I read earlier he twittered the same garbage attacking Ossoff twice in a row today. :lol:

(Dunno if he actually deleted the first attempt, I noticed he added a word to the second time around.)


Most TV news I saw today was concerned with the death of Warmbler mostly, followed by Paris and London attacks..

Warmbler while regrettable, could have been prevented by reading these, which the State Department has posted in some form since the middle of the '90's:

https://travel.state.gov/content/passpo ... rning.html

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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:25 am

Trump also said that “The Panama Canal is doing quite well, I think we did a good job building it,” apropos of, er, Panama (Panama's president replied, “Yeah, 100 years ago”), but didn't manage to mention last night's terror attack in London, according to The Daily Beast.
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:32 am

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Statistical Mechanic wrote:LOL but I will wait for our insightful cultural commissar Rabbit to explain it. :p



BRoI and Bannon prolly got lots to talk about....

“the Holocaust center”
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Balmoral95 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:33 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:Trump also said that “The Panama Canal is doing quite well, I think we did a good job building it,” apropos of, er, Panama (Panama's president replied, “Yeah, 100 years ago”), but didn't manage to mention last night's terror attack in London, according to The Daily Beast.


It's not a Trump International holding? Maybe by counting that and the Hoover Dam he can get to the magic $10B :lol:

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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Jeff_36 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:49 am

scrmbldggs wrote::shock: It's alive!


Now THAT is the weediest little voice I have ever heard in my entire life.

I always pictured Kushner as having a very heavy New Jersey accent and a salesmans rap.......WRONG!

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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:54 am

My wife has some very nasty things to say about what she called "his little girl's voice."
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Jeff_36 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:56 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:Trump also said that “The Panama Canal is doing quite well, I think we did a good job building it,”


Please tell me that you're joking............

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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:56 am

Jeff_36 wrote:
Statistical Mechanic wrote:Trump also said that “The Panama Canal is doing quite well, I think we did a good job building it,”


Please tell me that you're joking............

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tru ... 99199d9098
"World peace is certainly an ideal worth striving for; in Hitler's opinion it will be realizable only when one power, the racially best one, has attained complete and uncontested supremacy. That can then provide a sort of world police, seeing to it at the same time that the most valuable race is guaranteed the necessary living space. And if no other way is open to them, the lower races will have to restrict themselves accordingly."

- Rudolf Hess, letter, 1927


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