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How to survive?

Postby cartiii » Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:48 am

You encounter a man as you travel.

The man says, "If you lie to me I will kill you with my knife. If you tell me the truth, I will kill you with my gun."

Assume that if you try to fight or escape, you will be killed.

What must you say to survive.

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Re: How to survive?

Postby Daedalus » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:17 pm

cartiii wrote:You encounter a man as you travel.

The man says, "If you lie to me I will kill you with my knife. If you tell me the truth, I will kill you with my gun."

Assume that if you try to fight or escape, you will be killed.

What must you say to survive.


Nothing.
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Re: How to survive?

Postby Austin Harper » Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:26 pm

Or you could say, "You'll kill me with your knife," just to mess with him.
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Re: How to survive?

Postby Poodle » Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:42 am

Austin Harper wrote:Or you could say, "You'll kill me with your knife," just to mess with him.


... at which point the man shoots you and stabs you at precisely the same instant and says "Stick your logical paradox where the sun don't shine".

Really, though, you're correct in accordance with the information given. Unless the man always told lies. But we don't know that. Maybe the old "Who's that behind you?" thing followed by a sharp rap on the head?

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Re: How to survive?

Postby Rob Lister » Sat Oct 26, 2013 10:00 am

A karate chop, Maxwell Smart style. 99's got your back.

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Re: How to survive?

Postby Gord » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:09 pm

Tell him something that can neither be confirmed nor denied. Like "I love you".
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Re: How to survive?

Postby Major Malfunction » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:13 pm

Yo Mumma.
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Re: How to survive?

Postby moth1ne » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:51 pm

Ask the first question. You can't lie or tell the truth if your the one asking questions:

Me: "What's there to lie or tell the truth about?" (you haven't lied or told the truth and now the tables are turned).
Man: "Do you want to live?"
Me: "Where? Like here? Or in Sub-saharan Africa?

You could just keep asking questions in response to his questions until he becomes disinterested or lowers his guard, then you maxwell smart chop his ass...
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Re: How to survive?

Postby Major Malfunction » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:58 pm

Or you could just say hello.
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Re: How to survive?

Postby Daedalus » Sat Oct 26, 2013 7:57 pm

moth1ne wrote:Ask the first question. You can't lie or tell the truth if your the one asking questions:

Me: "What's there to lie or tell the truth about?" (you haven't lied or told the truth and now the tables are turned).
Man: "Do you want to live?"
Me: "Where? Like here? Or in Sub-saharan Africa?

You could just keep asking questions in response to his questions until he becomes disinterested or lowers his guard, then you maxwell smart chop his ass...


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Re: How to survive?

Postby Gord » Sat Oct 26, 2013 11:05 pm

Major Malfunction wrote:Or you could just say hello.

No, that won't work. In Malawi, "hello" means "I just felated you".
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Re: How to survive?

Postby Poodle » Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:57 am

Got it ...

a) Say "The following stuff has been posted in the Skeptic Society Forum" and then follow up by reciting the whole sea serpent thread. At some point the guy will either fall asleep or die laughing.

You're home and dry.

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Re: How to survive?

Postby Aztexan » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:33 pm

Or you could just stay home and avoid that maniacal gun-and-knife wielding bastard altogether.
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Re: How to survive?

Postby Gord » Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:16 pm

Aztexan wrote:Or you could just stay home and avoid that maniacal gun-and-knife wielding bastard altogether.

Or you could go out and BE that maniacal gun-and-knife wielding bastard!

Proactive! Yeah!
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Re: How to survive?

Postby cartiii » Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:16 pm

Austin Harper wrote:Or you could say, "You'll kill me with your knife," just to mess with him.


Actually, this is correct answer. :)

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Re: How to survive?

Postby Matthew Ellard » Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:17 pm

Gord wrote: No, that won't work. In Malawi, "hello" means "I just felated you".

OK. That now explains what happened at the Malawi airport. I was just trying to shake hands and say hello when.......all of a sudden......

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Re: How to survive?

Postby Wordbird » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:16 am

cartiii wrote:You encounter a man as you travel.

The man says, "If you lie to me I will kill you with my knife. If you tell me the truth, I will kill you with my gun."

Assume that if you try to fight or escape, you will be killed.

What must you say to survive.


"Your gun can't kill me."

This is a bit more my style because it's boastful and true, assuming the man tells the truth.

I also like this one:

"If you dare kill me with that gun, you will fall victim to every disease on the planet simultaneously and your brain will turn into worms that pour out of your eye sockets, which will then be raped by Christmas Critters for a year and a day while you are mysteriously alive and conscious and in the worst agony imaginable."

Note: If he kills me with the knife, this if-statement is true, meaning he can't actually kill me with the knife because I didn't lie. His only choice is to kill me with the gun and have all that stuff actually happen.

In other words, I will see your paradox and raise you an if, cowboy. You in or out?

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This is how you sling logic in the wild west. I'm the fastest gun there is. Watch.

"If you kill me with that gun, you have to shoot yourself dead first."

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Re: How to survive?

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:52 am

Best 8:34 of mindless violent in movie history.
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Re: How to survive?

Postby Wordbird » Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:37 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Best 8:34 of mindless violent in movie history.


I just watched the final season of Westworld, fell in love with Dolores, and wanted to participate in some sort of crazy version of the Old West where sci-fi collides with WTF and my intellect was considered as amazing as skill with a gun.

So now all logic problems shall be cowboy themed and I'm the fastest damn gun in the West.

Edit: I'm also still a baby chicken.

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Re: How to survive?

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:43 am

You should watch " Cowboy Beebop".
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Re: How to survive?

Postby Gord » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:06 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:You should watch " Cowboy Beebop".

Excellent advice.
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Re: How to survive?

Postby Wordbird » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:44 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:You should watch " Cowboy Beebop".


Have already done so. Amazing universes.

Wolf's Rain is done by the same person and it's equally cool.

Dinner on Ganymede anyone?


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