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Postby SteveKlinko » Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:48 pm

The implications of the Inter Mind Model of Consciousness lead to some very interesting realizations. The Inter Mind Model develops a concept of Conscious Space and Conscious Mind separate from Physical Space and Physical Mind, with The Inter Mind bridging the Gap between them. Please visit http://TheInterMind.com to see the whole story.

You will never see Light or hear Sound the same way again.

I found out that I really can post links on this Forum. I don't know what went wrong the first time I posted because the post never appeared. I thought it must be the link because other Forums don't allow links. I have edited this second time post to add the link above.
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Re: The Inter Mind

Postby Cadmusteeth » Sat Apr 01, 2017 4:49 pm

Just so I undrstand you right, you're talking about minds being dustinct from bodies. As in the mind is an immaterial substance. Am I right?

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Postby SteveKlinko » Sat Apr 01, 2017 5:32 pm

Cadmusteeth wrote:Just so I undrstand you right, you're talking about minds being dustinct from bodies. As in the mind is an immaterial substance. Am I right?


I say there is a definite Physical Mind (The Brain) but that there is a whole separate Conscious Mind. It is unknown how the Conscious Mind interacts with the Physical Mind so the Inter Mind is proposed to connect the two together. The Inter Mind might be located in the Physical Mind, the Conscious Mind, but probably both since it is a connection. There are some, I suppose slightly complicated, reasons for thinking these things. I think that as a side result of all this that the Realization about Light is the most interesting aspect of the arguments. It is all explained on The Inter Mind website.

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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Apr 01, 2017 5:38 pm

So, you're flogging your website.
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Postby SteveKlinko » Sat Apr 01, 2017 5:50 pm

Cadmusteeth wrote:Just so I undrstand you right, you're talking about minds being dustinct from bodies. As in the mind is an immaterial substance. Am I right?


But I think I didn't really answer your question. I think the Mind is not totally immaterial. It is part Physical and part Conscious (immaterial). The Physical Mind (material part) has all the functionality of memory and pattern matching that we usually consider to be functions of the Mind. The Conscious Mind is where we experience Conscious things like Conscious Light and Conscious Sound (not to be confused with Physical Light and Physical Sound). The Conscious Mind could be a very weird thing if it's not connected to a Physical Mind, assuming such a decoupling is even possible. The existence of a separate Conscious Mind screams out at you when you really think about the perception of Light and Sound as is done on the website.

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Postby SteveKlinko » Sat Apr 01, 2017 5:52 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:So, you're flogging your website.

I'm trying to introduce an idea. Don't know how else to do it.

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SteveKlinko wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:So, you're flogging your website.

I'm trying to introduce an idea. Don't know how else to do it.

You're playing a tough room.
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Postby SteveKlinko » Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:35 pm

Nice links but from the titles don't seem to have anything to do with the Brain, Mind, or Consciousness.

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Tough rooms are ok as long as they are fair.

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Postby gorgeous » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:24 pm

the brain is not the mind...the brain is the brain...the mind is not physical...the brain is physical....
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Postby SteveKlinko » Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:13 pm

It's just semantics. There's basically nothing wrong with saying that the Brain an aspect of the Mind. It is the Physical Mind. The Mind you speak of is the Conscious Mind in the Inter Mind Model of Consciousness. Hate to say it but the Inter Mind itself is but yet another aspect of Mind in the Inter Mind Model. The Inter Mind Model is a Triplistic Model of Consciousness.

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Re: The Inter Mind

Postby Cadmusteeth » Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:20 am

Ok, took a quick look. First thing I'd like to adress is that deal with "not seeing but detecting light". Seeing light is detecting light, our eyes are photo receptive organs.

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Postby scrmbldggs » Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:45 am

From the little I just read here, it almost sounds as if you simply renamed the unconscious or subconscious mind and now are calling that the Inter Mind?


btw, your unit didn't tell you that Gawd's links are part of his signature. :-P
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Re: The Inter Mind

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SteveKlinko wrote:Nice links but from the titles don't seem to have anything to do with the Brain, Mind, or Consciousness.

Neither do they have anything to do with you. You are familiar with sig lines; yes?

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Re: The Inter Mind

Postby Nobrot » Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:33 am

SteveKlinko wrote:It's just semantics. There's basically nothing wrong with saying that the Brain an aspect of the Mind. It is the Physical Mind. The Mind you speak of is the Conscious Mind in the Inter Mind Model of Consciousness. Hate to say it but the Inter Mind itself is but yet another aspect of Mind in the Inter Mind Model. The Inter Mind Model is a Triplistic Model of Consciousness.

Isn't there a random Depak Chopra thingy around these parts. Or is that 'an other' place?

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Postby Lance Kennedy » Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:12 am

The human mind is simply a particular pattern of neurons firing in a network. When you use a chemical agent to interfere with this process, you get unconsciousness (or death) with no mind activity detectable. If a person breaths ether and goes unconscious, the mind stops working. This would not be the case if part of the mind was immaterial. General anasthesia is a purely chemical process. The brain is affected because it is essentially a chemical engine.

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Postby Gord » Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:31 am

Nobrot wrote:
SteveKlinko wrote:It's just semantics. There's basically nothing wrong with saying that the Brain an aspect of the Mind. It is the Physical Mind. The Mind you speak of is the Conscious Mind in the Inter Mind Model of Consciousness. Hate to say it but the Inter Mind itself is but yet another aspect of Mind in the Inter Mind Model. The Inter Mind Model is a Triplistic Model of Consciousness.

Isn't there a random Depak Chopra thingy around these parts. Or is that 'an other' place?

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scrmbldggs wrote:btw, your unit didn't tell you that Gawd's links are part of his signature. :-P

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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:25 am

SteveKlinko wrote:Tough rooms are ok as long as they are fair.

And you decide if they're fair?
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Postby SteveKlinko » Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:10 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
SteveKlinko wrote:Tough rooms are ok as long as they are fair.

And you decide if they're fair?
Isn't that the way it works? I don't see anything wrong with that.

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Re: The Inter Mind

Postby SteveKlinko » Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:12 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:btw, your unit didn't tell you that Gawd's links are part of his signature. :-P

Just the wyrd of Gawd.
Well sorry about the links comment.

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Re: The Inter Mind

Postby gorgeous » Sun Apr 02, 2017 3:16 pm

no lance....people who are out of body are fully conscious...mind is not physical...
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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Apr 02, 2017 3:22 pm

SteveKlinko wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:btw, your unit didn't tell you that Gawd's links are part of his signature. :-P

Just the wyrd of Gawd.
Well sorry about the links comment.

Meh, nothing to worry about.

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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Apr 02, 2017 3:23 pm

gorgeous wrote:no lance....people who are out of body are fully conscious...mind is not physical...

And "out of body" is hoodoo BS.
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Postby gorgeous » Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:30 pm

nope
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gorgeous wrote:nope

Your post was four letters too long.
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Postby Lance Kennedy » Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:38 pm

Out of mind experiences fit into the quote that Gawd posted from Christopher Hitchens. That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

WHen there is proper evidence for out of mind experiences, published as a scientific study in a reputable and peer reviewed scientific journal, then talk to us again.

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SteveKlinko wrote: Unable to post the link so if you want to know more you will need to Google The Inter Mind. You will never see Light or hear Sound the same way again.
I did.
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Postby gorgeous » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:50 pm

Lance Kennedy wrote:Out of mind experiences fit into the quote that Gawd posted from Christopher Hitchens. That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

WHen there is proper evidence for out of mind experiences, published as a scientific study in a reputable and peer reviewed scientific journal, then talk to us again.

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If you need to know if I exist, check your rear end in the mirror. The bruises are where I have been kicking you over your silly superstitions.

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SteveKlinko wrote:Unable to post the link so if you want to know more you will need to Google The Inter Mind. You will never see Light or hear Sound the same way again.

You're online I see. Oh goody. Why are you unable to post the link? I did.

eta, he's buggered off.

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Postby SteveKlinko » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:45 pm

Nobrot wrote:
SteveKlinko wrote:Unable to post the link so if you want to know more you will need to Google The Inter Mind. You will never see Light or hear Sound the same way again.

You're online I see. Oh goody. Why are you unable to post the link? I did.

eta, he's buggered off.
I posted the day before and it never appeared so I just assumed it was the link. The next day I posted without the link and it showed up. Other Forums don't like links. So if I can post a link here it is: http://TheInterMind.com

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Postby SteveKlinko » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:49 pm

All I can say to all this is that Conscious Experience is the 800 pound gorilla in the Scientific room. Scientists have no right to specify that Consciousness is in the Physical Mind (Brain) without showing convincing evidence. Until that time Consciousness can be hypothesized to be anything with equal validity. You could use the argument that everything we know so far has Physical explanations so therefore Consciousness has to be some kind of Physical phenomenon. It's not a bad argument, but it has a certain amount of belief in it. I think it's time to start seriously considering that Consciousness might just be something so different that it will require new ways of thinking. If we are going to demand that it is has to have a normal Physical explanation then we might never understand it. So I'm still waiting for that Scientific revelation about Consciousness that Scientists are praying for.

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Are you Dr Steven Lilley?

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To be clear I have nothing against Scientists. I work with them every day.

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If I were to E-mail Dr Steven Lilley with a link to this thread, what would he say?

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SteveKlinko wrote:To be clear I have nothing against Scientists. I work with them every day.

I think an E-mail is in order. You know, just to find out.

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Postby SteveKlinko » Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:01 am

I'm not Dr. Steven Lilley. I'm Steven J Klinko Fulltime Electrical and Software Engineer, Philosophy Hobbyist, Brain Physiology Hobbyist, Conscious Mind Research Hobbyist, Stereo Equipment Enthusiast

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Re: The Inter Mind

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SteveKlinko wrote:
Nobrot wrote:
SteveKlinko wrote:Unable to post the link so if you want to know more you will need to Google The Inter Mind. You will never see Light or hear Sound the same way again.

You're online I see. Oh goody. Why are you unable to post the link? I did.

eta, he's buggered off.
I posted the day before and it never appeared so I just assumed it was the link. The next day I posted without the link and it showed up. Other Forums don't like links. So if I can post a link here it is: http://TheInterMind.com

Not this one then? http://www.inter-mind.co.uk/

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Re: The Inter Mind

Postby Nobrot » Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:12 am

SteveKlinko wrote:I'm not Dr. Steven Lilley. I'm Steven J Klinko Fulltime Electrical and Software Engineer, Philosophy Hobbyist, Brain Physiology Hobbyist, Conscious Mind Research Hobbyist, Stereo Equipment Enthusiast

You mean a troll? Well why didn't you say? No probs fella we've loads here. Settle in and enjoy.

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