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No One has ever seen a Self

Postby placid » Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:36 pm

The Self can only point to aspects of itself, but never directly to itself.

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Consciousness can only know itself with the appearance of an object, the object can never see.

The one eyed Wo/man is King.

The ego will always be a house divided against itself.

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Re: No One has ever seen a Self

Postby placid » Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:41 pm

Jesus Christ never existed, the idea is a metaphor for PURE AWARENESS /CONSCIOUSNESS

Christ mind is designed to ensure oneness between Spirit and matter, which can happen only when matter outpictures the blueprint designed by Spirit—the blueprint that is stored in the universal Christ mind.

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Re: No One has ever seen a Self

Postby placid » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:01 pm

Looking for a self here in the world would be like cinderella looking for her biological father.

It would be like looking for your favorite deceased pet in the meat market.

You are in the world but not of it.

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Postby Poodle » Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:08 pm

Outpicture. Are you Spanish, placid?

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Postby placid » Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:14 pm

Poodle wrote:Outpicture. Are you Spanish, placid?


No, I'm from the Isle of Skye west of Scotland. Beautiful place.

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Postby Poodle » Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:16 pm

It is indeed. I have family there.

A follower of the Goddess Meru, perhaps?

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Postby placid » Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:21 pm

Poodle wrote:It is indeed. I have family there.

A follower of the Goddess Meru, perhaps?


I don't follow, I'm am a shepherd.

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Postby scrmbldggs » Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:24 pm

placid wrote:
Poodle wrote:It is indeed. I have family there.

A follower of the Goddess Meru, perhaps?


I don't follow, I'm am a shepherd.

Of what?
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Re: No One has ever seen a Self

Postby placid » Wed Jul 29, 2015 5:22 pm

scrmbldggs wrote:
placid wrote:
Poodle wrote:It is indeed. I have family there.

A follower of the Goddess Meru, perhaps?


I don't follow, I'm am a shepherd.

Of what?


The known.

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Postby scrmbldggs » Wed Jul 29, 2015 5:46 pm

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placid wrote:
Poodle wrote:It is indeed. I have family there.

A follower of the Goddess Meru, perhaps?


I don't follow, I'm am a shepherd.

Of what?


The known.


Nah, like every arrogant or mad preacher, you're the shepherd of the fleas on your soapbox.

Your lofty talk is merely the jargon of the deluded that swallowed the cud hook, line and sinker. And are working hard - and for free! - to support other deluded ones and fill the pockets of cons that latched on to an age-old profession.
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Re: No One has ever seen a Self

Postby placid » Wed Jul 29, 2015 5:53 pm

scrmbldggs wrote:
placid wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:
placid wrote:
Poodle wrote:It is indeed. I have family there.

A follower of the Goddess Meru, perhaps?


I don't follow, I'm am a shepherd.

Of what?


The known.


Nah, like every arrogant or mad preacher, you're the shepherd of the fleas on your soapbox.

Your lofty talk is merely the jargon of the deluded that swallowed the cud hook, line and sinker. And are working hard - and for free! - to support other deluded ones and fill the pockets of cons that latched on to an age-old profession.


S/he is not for sale.

But your entitled to your layer of the onion, .... the core awaits your return.

Opinions are onions without the pi everyone's got one.

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placid wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:
placid wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:
placid wrote:
Poodle wrote:It is indeed. I have family there.

A follower of the Goddess Meru, perhaps?


I don't follow, I'm am a shepherd.

Of what?


The known.


Nah, like every arrogant or mad preacher, you're the shepherd of the fleas on your soapbox.

Your lofty talk is merely the jargon of the deluded that swallowed the cud hook, line and sinker. And are working hard - and for free! - to support other deluded ones and fill the pockets of cons that latched on to an age-old profession.


S/he is not for sale.

But your entitled to your layer of the onion, .... the core awaits your return.

Opinions are onions without the pi everyone's got one.


"Infinity is only possible in immortal force fields"
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Re: No One has ever seen a Self

Postby placid » Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:08 pm

scrmbldggs wrote:
"Infinity is only possible in immortal force fields"



And may the farce be with you.

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placid wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:
"Infinity is only possible in immortal force fields"



And may the farce be with you.


Oh, it already is for about a week or so since it signed up here...
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Re: No One has ever seen a Self

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scrmbldggs wrote:
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scrmbldggs wrote:
"Infinity is only possible in immortal force fields"



And may the farce be with you.


Oh, it already is for about a week or so since it signed up here...


You cannot ignore the farce.

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placid wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:
placid wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:
"Infinity is only possible in immortal force fields"



And may the farce be with you.


Oh, it already is for about a week or so since it signed up here...


You cannot ignore the farce.


And why would I? It tells me I-Self can't go wrong. All holds are off. Where else does one get that? :-P
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Re: No One has ever seen a Self

Postby placid » Wed Jul 29, 2015 7:26 pm

scrmbldggs wrote:
And why would I? It tells me I-Self can't go wrong. All holds are off. Where else does one get that? :-P


You get it when you realise there is nothing to get. Let's say I have a poo, I can smell it or even hear it but I can't see it or touch it. That's a fart, right? now let's say I can't even smell it or hear it. Well, that's just who I Am. I believe in farts, because the proof is in the pudding of which too much can cause a stink.

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scrmbldggs wrote:
Your lofty talk is merely the jargon of the deluded that swallowed the cud hook, line and sinker. And are working hard - and for free! - to support other deluded ones and fill the pockets of cons that latched on to an age-old profession.


I always find comments about money quite disturbing, it's a dark shady mentality, the idea that this is for sale is dark. It's all free man, no one is selling bottled water by the river.What's up...? is the Light too bright for you? Enlightenment cannot be taught or mastered...yet, there seem to be a lot of enlightened masters and teachers....advice, don't buy into a belief believing it is true, when it's blatantly false.

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And why would I? It tells me I-Self can't go wrong. All holds are off. Where else does one get that? :-P


You get it when you realise there is nothing to get. Let's say I have a poo, I can smell it or even hear it but I can't see it or touch it. That's a fart, right? now let's say I can't even smell it or hear it. Well, that's just who I Am. I believe in farts, because the proof is in the pudding of which too much can cause a stink.


You really are into crap, ain'tcha? I think there's a name for that...

Why don't you go find something worthwhile to do with your obsession? There can be use for that http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-me ... rthy-cause
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Postby scrmbldggs » Wed Jul 29, 2015 7:57 pm

placid wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:
Your lofty talk is merely the jargon of the deluded that swallowed the cud hook, line and sinker. And are working hard - and for free! - to support other deluded ones and fill the pockets of cons that latched on to an age-old profession.


I always find comments about money quite disturbing, it's a dark shady mentality, the idea that this is for sale is dark. It's all free man, no one is selling bottled water by the river.What's up...? is the Light too bright for you? Enlightenment cannot be taught or mastered...yet, there seem to be a lot of enlightened masters and teachers....advice, don't buy into a belief believing it is true, when it's blatantly false.


Sorry, I can't believe you can know what light is, considering where your head seems to be lodged. Unshakably so, it seems, since you can't be ruffled you say, lol.
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Re: No One has ever seen a Self

Postby placid » Wed Jul 29, 2015 7:59 pm

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You really are into crap, ain'tcha? I think there's a name for that...


Yeah, it's called smell your own Sh*t.

Why don't you go find something worthwhile to do with your obsession? instead of hanging around my sh*t with your useless no substance comments.

The reason you hang around somewhere that you constantly complain about, is because you love the smell of other people's sh*t

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You really are into crap, ain'tcha? I think there's a name for that...


Yeah, it's called smell your own Sh*t.

Why don't you go find something worthwhile to do with your obsession? instead of hanging around my sh*t with your useless no substance comments.


Hey, it's a forum. Do you know what that means?



(I edited my last post, adding a sentence.)

And see you added something to yours:
placid wrote:The reason you hang around somewhere that you constantly complain about, is because you love the smell of other people's sh*t


No no no, that's not so, not correct (your deep insight failed you? :shock: ). But since you insist, I can say to my rude Self whatever I want. Everyone can, Rudolf.

But what would Ed say?
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Re: No One has ever seen a Self

Postby placid » Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:07 pm

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Hey, it's a forum. Do you know what that means?


Actually I do,it means let's continue the discussion ... so where were we, oh yes, those who seek enlightenment seek to improve their imagined circumstances. Teachers are attracted to and feed off of that yearning. Only a few stay the course when it begins to dawn that they don't even exist.

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placid wrote:
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Hey, it's a forum. Do you know what that means?


Actually I do,it means let's continue the discussion ... so where were we, oh yes, those who seek enlightenment seek to improve their imagined circumstances. Teachers are attracted to and feed off of that yearning. Only a few stay the course when it begins to dawn that they don't even exist.


You're still not getting it. It's teaching, it's love, you know. Pure love. But since I can't (and would NOT want to) love you as much as Hitler loved the Jews, I'm doing my best here that I can.
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Postby placid » Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:26 pm

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You're still not getting it. It's teaching, it's love, you know. Pure love. But since I can't (and would NOT want to) love you as much as Hitler loved the Jews, I'm doing my best here that I can.


No, your still not getting it, to Love ''me'' would imply two...This is Filthy Love.

Real Pure Love is One. This Love is ALL alone.

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Sorry, I can't believe you can know what light is, considering where your head seems to be lodged. Unshakably so, it seems, since you can't be ruffled you say, lol.


Listen, you can keep on bashing me until your black and blue in the face. It won't work because I don't exist.

But if you like boxing with shadows, if that's what you get off on, then who am I to stand in your way.

I've already got out of my own way. I'm just watching the match..... hey look, there's a hummingbird!

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You're still not getting it. It's teaching, it's love, you know. Pure love. But since I can't (and would NOT want to) love you as much as Hitler loved the Jews, I'm doing my best here that I can.


No, your still not getting it, to Love ''me'' would imply two...This is Filthy Love.

Real Pure Love is One. This Love is ALL alone.


You got (and still get) kicked out a lot, don't cha? Lucky you to have stumbled onto this...


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Sorry, I can't believe you can know what light is, considering where your head seems to be lodged. Unshakably so, it seems, since you can't be ruffled you say, lol.


Listen, you can keep on bashing me until your black and blue in the face. It won't work because I don't exist.

But if you like boxing with shadows, if that's what you get off on, then who am I to stand in your way.

I've already got out of my own way. I'm just watching the match..... hey look, there's a hummingbird!



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Postby scrmbldggs » Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:39 pm

BTW, placid, have to say you actually did pretty well there curbing your.. umm... enthusiasm after stepping up to and into it again (you sure love that poopin' and stinkin' business) when your "nothing real" got threatened.



But your "nothing unreal exists." is still all fantasies. But if that's what you get off on...
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placid wrote: No, I'm from the Isle of Skye west of Scotland. Beautiful place.
Are you posting from the Buddhist retreat at Boreriag?

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placid wrote: Listen, you can keep on bashing me until your black and blue in the face. It won't work because I don't exist.
You are a Hitler fan. If you lived under Hitler's reign you wouldn't exist. You'd be another number walking into a gas chamber for not following Hitler's will.

You make us laugh by pretending you don't care and have "no self", and then, blatantly, with conventional psychological compulsion, you keep posting here and insist we read your posts. It is as though you want us to laugh at you and your contradictory philosophy. Is that what is going on?

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placid wrote: Listen, you can keep on bashing me until your black and blue in the face. It won't work because I don't exist.
You are a Hitler fan. If you lived under Hitler's reign you wouldn't exist. You'd be another number walking into a gas chamber for not following Hitler's will.

You make us laugh by pretending you don't care and have "no self", and then, blatantly, with conventional psychological compulsion, you keep posting here and insist we read your posts. It is as though you want us to laugh at you and your contradictory philosophy. Is that what is going on?


What's going on is everything written in the post above is appearing here to no one.

Posting on a forum happens, multitude of words appearing on a screen - only one reader - words appear as symbol/number/form and meaning known in the instant they arise by the only knowing there is which is Consciousness which is Life manifesting by association in the form of symbolism, life comes from life, there is only Life happening of it's own accord, no actor, no doer, just doing and acting by no one.Doing is done, but no doer thereof.

It's the dance of Life appearing and disappearing without a trace. Anything you can see including these words are frozen thoughts in time, snapshots of infinities creative ideas. That which animates and is aware of frozen snapshots is not in time, it is eternal, timeless, ageless, nameless, it is life's abundant energy living itself appearing as a realtime movie.

Like this.......

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scrmbldggs wrote:BTW, placid, have to say you actually did pretty well there curbing your.. umm... enthusiasm after stepping up to and into it again (you sure love that poopin' and stinkin' business) when your "nothing real" got threatened.



But your "nothing unreal exists." is still all fantasies. But if that's what you get off on...


Sh*t happens.

Taoism:
{!#%@} happens.
If you can {!#%@}, it isn't {!#%@}.
{!#%@} happens, so flow with it.

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Why are we attracting so many nutjobs these days?
"Knowledge grows through infinite timelessness" -- the random fictional Deepak Chopra quote site
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Gord wrote:Why are we attracting so many nutjobs these days?


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[ytube]www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEOMP4de75g[/ytube]

I've no idea if either of those actually worked - I can't see a thing.

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Poodle wrote:
Gord wrote:Why are we attracting so many nutjobs these days?


phpBB [video]


[ytube]www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEOMP4de75g[/ytube]

I've no idea if either of those actually worked - I can't see a thing.

I see nothing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEOMP4de75g
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Postby Poodle » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:13 am

Thanks, Gord. I see what's wrong now. Hallelujah!

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I see nothing, is correct. The eye doesn't see, there's just the seeing, but not by 'I'

There is nothing that can see inside an eyeball. Light cannot see itself. You are the Light of Awareness.

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I see that you have no idea how the eyeball and the brain operate to interpret information carried by light. I don't know why I'm posting this - you cannot see it. Yet you respond. It's a miracle.

Don't eat for a month or two. You'll be OK - there is no food, there is no mouth, there is no digestive system, there is no you. There is no doctor, there is no hospital, there is no cause for concern. Put a polythene bag over your head - it's quicker. There is no air, there are no lungs, there is no polythene bag.

There is no brain - that one's obvious.

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Poodle wrote:I see that you have no idea how the eyeball and the brain operate to interpret information carried by light. I don't know why I'm posting this - you cannot see it. Yet you respond. It's a miracle.

Don't eat for a month or two. You'll be OK - there is no food, there is no mouth, there is no digestive system, there is no you. There is no doctor, there is no hospital, there is no cause for concern. Put a polythene bag over your head - it's quicker. There is no air, there are no lungs, there is no polythene bag.

There is no brain - that one's obvious.


I know and understand everything you are saying above, you are correct in what you are saying and I agree with you.

But that is not what I am talking about, you are referring to the mechanics of reality. I'm not talking about all that at all, I'm talking about the Self in which the mechanics appear.

Everything you mention is happening yes, but it's not happening to a person or a thing, because what you are is not a thing, your body is the temporal vehicle for consciousness which is infinite possibility expressed as and through the body vehicle computer. You can't see yourself directly because you only exist as a holographic projection.

The brain decodes information from a field of infinite possibility which is everywhere and nowhere. Information appears as a 3D image onto the screen of awareness, a 3D object is known, but has never been seen because seeing is 2D - you know an object is whole in itself, but you only see one side of it, you know a diamond has many facets but you only see the facets of a 2D nature,you can never see the whole thing at once this is impossible, it's the same principle where as images appearing on a computer screen are only seen in 2D, even though they may appear to be 3D
therefore,everything seen is 2D because seeing is 2D they are inseparable. 3D is an imagined representation of brain trickery aka an appearance of what is not actually there, except as image. All objects are images, which are known, but have never been seen, all the things we see in the world are imagined as imaged.... Known because they are seen, but they do not exist as we are accustomed or conditioned to think they do. It's like saying the people on the TV or cinema screen are real, no, they are images, they are not real.

Reality is holographic in nature. The faces you see in others are 2D holographic images appearing as 3D objects..... you can never see a 3D object directly, it just appears to be 3D... because that is how the brain decodes it simply because the object is known, even though it has never been seen. I know this sounds complicated, but you have to study long and hard the holographic principle to get it. I have done so for many years.
Have you ever stared at a magic eye book where suddenly out pops a 3D image that was otherwise hidden in a 2D picture, well that's similar to how our brains are decoding 1D information. Also, have you seen the 3D images that artists paint on the concrete floor in the street, how they appear to the brain as 3D, but are actually 2D, flat as a pancake.

Please do your own research if you want to understand this more clearly., it is well worth the time and effort, to understand how reality is an elaborate sophisticated holographic computer programme built by our very own mind.

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Re: No One has ever seen a Self

Postby placid » Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:50 pm

Bye the way...have you ever seen this video, it might explain a few things better than I can.

Jill Bolte Taylor's stroke of insight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEYU

Jill is a neurological scientist which came in very handy, and why she wasn't afraid of what was happening to her.


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