The Southern Poverty Law Center ... Men’s Rights Movement

[Abdul Alhazred]

Wow. A whole nother sexist subculture I’d never have heard of but for the internet.

The Southern Poverty Law Center notices the Men’s Rights Movement
PZ Myers et al

[Gord]

Even if there were an honest, necessary "men's rights movement," it would attract all the scumbags in the country.  (I bet they'd call it the Teabagger's Party. )

[Major Malfunction]

I'm all for men's rights in Family Law, having experienced the inequality first hand, but those guys are just too much.

They're either trolls taking the piss, or misguided and bitter fools. Either way, they're hurting their own cause by proving they're not parent material.

[Monster]

I read some of the articles from that link.  The Sea is Mine said all of the same things those other guys said.  Since he was a proponent of domestic violence, it would seem likely that some of those other Men's Rights guys would be similar.

[OutOfBreath]

In other words, they are not on about men's rights, but men's privileges, judging the assinine statements TheSeaIsMine made.

Bitter fools with nowhere else to direct their anger I suppose.

Peace
Dan

[Hex]

As someone who (won, lack of a better word) custody of my two kids, I'll tell you it wasn't as easy as showing up in the courthouse. I demanded a independent child psychologist, home visits with the kids and had to put together enough character witnesses to add to my claim.

And, I still didn't get child support although I was now a single Dad.

Worth it in the end, but it is a case of total inequality of custody between the father and the mother in the courts.

[RubyHypatia]

There's sexism all over the internet, and I can't seem to get away from it!  In a Libertarian forum I debated a guy who wants it to be socially unacceptable for mothers to have careers.  In the IMDb message board for Celebrity Apprentice, I debated a guy who claimed that the female gender couldn't get along with each other.  He praised men's ability to get along, said they end up shaking hands and drinking beers together.  I guess he forgot that most wars throughout human history was the result of men not shaking hands and having beers together.

And of course who can forget The Sea is Mine?

I think a lot of men in the MRM are pissed that they don't own their kids.  The reason mothers tend to get primary custody is simply because they're usually the main caregivers.  That being said, I know of plenty of dads who (rightfully) got custody because they were the more stable parent.  Of course plenty of parents have gotten screwed over in divorce court, and that's a real shame for them and their kids.

[RubyHypatia]

What does the Tea Party have to do with the MRM?  The Tea Party is about taxes being too high, the government being too big, and the national debt skyrocketing.  These are fiscal issues.  The MRM is a social issue, which does not belong in the Tea Party.

[Nessie]

I miss the Sea Is MIne, his entertainment value with outrageous claims and arguments was worth the irritation at not being able to get through to him how stupid he was being.

[RubyHypatia]

Abdul, thanks for the link.  Through it I found this great web site:
http://manboobz.com/
It keeps track of the MRM and their misogyny, and does so in a humorous way.

[RubyHypatia]

BTW, I still can't get over a Libertarian wanting it to be socially unacceptable for a mother to have a career.  I'd expect this kind of BS from a Right Winger, but not a Libertarian.  I mean, Libertarian comes from the word, liberty.  Restricting mothers to the home is against liberty.  The idea of someone wanting to restrict my liberty is SO INFURIATING!!!

[Gord]

I'd expect this kind of BS from a Right Winger, but not a Libertarian.

I still don't know what the difference is.

[Monster]

I'd expect this kind of BS from a Right Winger, but not a Libertarian.

I still don't know what the difference is.

Penn Jillette and Bill Maher are libertarians.

Laura Schlessinger (Dr. Laura) is a right winger and wants to restrict mothers to the home.  She wants it to be socially unacceptable for mothers to have careers.

[RubyHypatia]

A Liberal is both fiscally and socially liberal.  A Libertarian is fiscally conservative and socially liberal.  I'm pretty sure Bill Maher is a Liberal, not a Libertarian.  Dr. Laura had a career while raising a kid.  But yeah, she's a Right Winger, as is Rush Limbaugh and Rick Santorum.  I used to listen to her radio show about 15 or so years ago, but her misogyny and self-righteous attitude got on my nerves.  

It's bad enough that there are misogyist men, but when they're women it just makes things worse.  Even the MRM can get women on their side.

[Monster]

This particular episode of Masters of Horror strongly reminds me of the MRM.  Screwfly Solution.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0833098/

It was painful for me to watch.  I saw it about 10 or more months ago.  It's where the men start murdering all the women, and use excuses like the women are immoral, and that they're making a woman-free utopia.

[RubyHypatia]

I reminded of the movie, Mars Needs Moms.  In it the Martian women, who have total control over the planet, live in the sky and discard the males down on the planet below where the trash gets thrown.  The girls are raised by robots, as the Martian women are busy with work.  The woman overseeing this system is an obvious man-hating, "feminazi."  The main character learns to appreciate his stay-at-home mom.  Sounds like something a MRM guy would write.  At least one of the less hateful ones.

[Monster]

I reminded of the movie, Mars Needs Moms.  In it the Martian women, who have total control over the planet, live in the sky and discard the males down on the planet below where the trash gets thrown.  The girls are raised by robots, as the Martian women are busy with work.  The woman overseeing this system is an obvious man-hating, "feminazi."  The main character learns to appreciate his stay-at-home mom.  Sounds like something a MRM guy would write.  At least one of the less hateful ones.

I'm pretty sure Berkeley Breathed originally wrote that story and Disney or whoever bought the rights to it.  Berkeley Breathed sure as hell isn't a woman-hater.

[Nessie]

.......

Laura Schlessinger (Dr. Laura) is a right winger and wants to restrict mothers to the home.  She wants it to be socially unacceptable for mothers to have careers.

I take it she has had a very nice career this Dr Laura and an education, or is she really a Dr?

[Monster]

.......

Laura Schlessinger (Dr. Laura) is a right winger and wants to restrict mothers to the home.  She wants it to be socially unacceptable for mothers to have careers.

I take it she has had a very nice career this Dr Laura and an education, or is she really a Dr?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Laura

According to that, she has a Ph.D in physiology, so yes, she's a Dr.

[Nessie]

She is a doctor with a career    I saw a picture of 'her', are you sure she is not a man with her Dr and er I mean his career?

He apparently said this "a huge portion of the male homosexual populace is predatory on young boys". I take it he hates gays then.

Official: (suspiciously) Are there any women here today? (The women all shake their heads. The Official faces Matthias again.)

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[Monster]

She is a doctor with a career    I saw a picture of 'her', are you sure she is not a man with her Dr and er I mean his career?

She's a she.  When she was younger, she had quite a hot body, judging by the nude photos of her on the interwebs.

[RubyHypatia]

Why is there a need for a men's rights movement anyway?  What rights are they lacking that they should have?  As far as I can tell we have equal rights in American and the West.  And men still make up the vast majority of government and business leaders.

[Nessie]

She is a doctor with a career    I saw a picture of 'her', are you sure she is not a man with her Dr and er I mean his career?

She's a she.  When she was younger, she had quite a hot body, judging by the nude photos of her on the interwebs.

But she must be a he as if she was a she she should be at home with a baby doing the cleaning, not getting an education and a career  

[Monster]

She is a doctor with a career    I saw a picture of 'her', are you sure she is not a man with her Dr and er I mean his career?

She's a she.  When she was younger, she had quite a hot body, judging by the nude photos of her on the interwebs.

But she must be a he as if she was a she she should be at home with a baby doing the cleaning, not getting an education and a career  

Oh I see what you mean.  Nicely done.

[Gord]

Why is there a need for a men's rights movement anyway?  What rights are they lacking that they should have?  As far as I can tell we have equal rights in American and the West.  And men still make up the vast majority of government and business leaders.

They needs the right to put them uppity wimmenfolk in they's place!

[Nessie]

We need to bring back arranged marriages, I bagsey chosing the brides for the mens rights lot

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[Austin Harper]