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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Major Malfunction » Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:17 am

Pyrrho wrote:Pilot light keeps going out on my water heater. I have tried cleaning the spark arrestor screen...we'll see how it goes. If that fails, then it's 80 bucks for a burner assembly because apparently I can't buy a thermocouple or pilot light separately.

I had the same problem. Needed a gas plumber to look at it because DIY gas plumbing is illegal here. She took it apart, cleaned it with some carb cleaner and a pipe cleaner. It worked mostly fine until the tank exploded in dramatic fashion not long after. So maybe it's on it's last legs, and time to consider a total replacement. Gas tank hot water systems generally don't last much longer than 10 years. Fifteen, if you're lucky.

I wanted to go with a solar-assisted on-demand system, but the gas plumber said the on-demand systems, about the same price, tend to burnout their heat-exchange fins in 5-7 years. So about half the life. Plus the extra plumbing to install a different system. Compared to how much gas you're going to save. It doesn't really work out economically for the budget-minded.
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby xouper » Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:49 am

Major Malfunction wrote:Gas tank hot water systems generally don't last much longer than 10 years. Fifteen, if you're lucky.


Adding to that point, some homeowner's insurance policies deny coverage if your hot water tank is older than 10 years.

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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby TJrandom » Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:47 am

We don`t have a tank system - but rather an on-demand unit that burns fuel oil. About once every 3 months I top up the fuel tank with 60 litres. A litre costs less than US$1, so keeping this system makes sense. Plus, the boiler is actually two - one for flowing hot water, and the other a re-boiler that takes back in soaking (bath) water and sends it back into the tub, permitting one to adjust the bath water temperature to ones liking.

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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Pyrrho » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:41 am

Vacuumed out the dust--had to fashion a nozzle out of a semi-flattened cardboard tube--and it's working properly again.

Tank is 10 years old so I guess it is nearing replacement time.
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Pyrrho » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:34 pm

scrmbldggs wrote:Have you tried snaking that pilot tip?

To do that I'd have to dismantle the burner assembly. I am not interested in that much hilarity.
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby scrmbldggs » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:58 pm

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scrmbldggs wrote:Have you tried snaking that pilot tip?

To do that I'd have to dismantle the burner assembly. I am not interested in that much hilarity.

Well, I meant cleaning it (maybe with a small wire brush?). Was just going overboard, as usual. :-P


ETA I guess you mean like so.
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Postby JO 753 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:01 am

I'v never replased the water heater and I've been here 24 yirz. Dont no how old it wuz wen I got here.
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Postby scrmbldggs » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:05 am

Run!

There's usually a date on a label. Don't tell me yours was just a sticker. :-P
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Pyrrho » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:07 am

scrmbldggs wrote:
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scrmbldggs wrote:Have you tried snaking that pilot tip?

To do that I'd have to dismantle the burner assembly. I am not interested in that much hilarity.

Well, I meant cleaning it (maybe with a small wire brush?). Was just going overboard, as usual. :-P


ETA Like so.

This thing is a Sears Power Miser 9. Can't get at that without dismantling the whole burner assembly.
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Postby scrmbldggs » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:20 am

:(

But you said you made it work again with vacuuming. Yay!
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Postby JO 753 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:13 am

No insep date. Must mean its immortal.
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Major Malfunction » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:47 pm

TJrandom wrote:We don`t have a tank system - but rather an on-demand unit that burns fuel oil. About once every 3 months I top up the fuel tank with 60 litres. A litre costs less than US$1, so keeping this system makes sense. Plus, the boiler is actually two - one for flowing hot water, and the other a re-boiler that takes back in soaking (bath) water and sends it back into the tub, permitting one to adjust the bath water temperature to ones liking.

Crikey! That's cheap. That's about my summer gas bill. But about two thirds of that is just paying for the privilege of being connected.
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:44 pm

scrmbldggs wrote:Have you tried snaking that pilot tip?

I'm going to quote THAT out of context a whole bunch. :lol:

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Postby scrmbldggs » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:37 pm

:? :shock: :laff:
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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:43 pm

scrmbldggs wrote::(

But you said you made it work again with vacuuming. Yay!

That sucks.
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Postby Major Malfunction » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:49 pm

I knew there was a reason I kept all those dunny rolls...
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:17 am

Pulled a boner yesterday...trying to push the metal part of an ice pick back into its wooden handle and I stuck myself right between the knuckles. Did not hurt...did not even think maybe I had pierced the skin as no hole and no blood. About 10 minutes later a little blood spot did appear so I thought I was lucky to have barely penetrated. Three hours later and my fingers on either side of the stick are stiff and achy with a lump forming between the knuckles and up the palm about one inch. I suspect more penetration than I knew and am concerned about tetanus and blood poisoning of some sort. Became more not exactly painful but stiff with lack of mobility and grip. This morning...it "hurts" a bit less, swelling is slightly down, no blue veins etc.

I assume I hit some nerve complex or tendon system that needs to heal?

Amazing how the body works.........and fails to work. such a very tiny little prick (sic) and my sword hand is disabled. Ha, ha..........not like the movies at all.
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Postby JO 753 » Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:51 am

Wen I penetrate my skin and it duznt start bleeding, I sqweez the area till it duz. Helps to flush out jermz.
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:58 am

Thanks Jo...good advice...."sounds like?". Course...at first...I saw no penetration at all, and no external blood either...seems to have just formed a clot at the skin surface.
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bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:Pulled a boner yesterday...
Never ever ever, start a sentence with those words again, when talking to an Australian. It means something very different to what you intended. :D

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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:10 am

Good to know.....I think it only means about 25% that in USA. Verb and Noun....always suspect.
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:12 am

My ice pick wound hurts less now but is slightly larger and slightly red. If medicine were free....I'd go for a visit. Hate to die in USA because I hate our medical system so completely.................. If it starts to hurt, turn blue, or smell......I'll take a visit. What could they possibly do to help? Kill me with anti-biotics while pumping the area full of cortisone?

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Postby Gord » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:40 am

They could give you a tetanus shot, for one thing.
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bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote: If medicine were free....I'd go for a visit.


You'd have the same problem in Canada. Medicine not free there either. And you'd likely have a long wait in line.

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But at least he wouldn't have to deal with a {!#%@} idiot white supremacist rapist holding the highest office in the land so there's that.
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Poodle » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:12 pm

Gord wrote:They could give you a tetanus shot, for one thing.


... or they may go straight for the amputation.


GO AND GET IT CHECKED OUT, BOBBO!

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Aztexan wrote:But at least he wouldn't have to deal with a {!#%@} idiot white supremacist rapist holding the highest office in the land so there's that.


He doesn't have to deal with one of those in the US either.

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Postby Major Malfunction » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:32 pm

xouper wrote:
Aztexan wrote:But at least he wouldn't have to deal with a {!#%@} idiot white supremacist rapist holding the highest office in the land so there's that.


He doesn't have to deal with one of those in the US either.

Instead, it's an SJW Cucklord.

Bobbo doesn't need to worry unless he starts finding it difficult to chew and bend his knees. But by then, it's probably too late.
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Postby scrmbldggs » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:47 pm

The least bobbo can/should do is keep dousing the boo-boo in isopropyl alcohol.
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Postby Major Malfunction » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:58 pm

That's not going to help at this point. You're supposed to get a tetanus booster every 10 years.
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xouper wrote:
Aztexan wrote:But at least he wouldn't have to deal with a {!#%@} idiot white supremacist rapist holding the highest office in the land so there's that.


He doesn't have to deal with one of those in the US either.


White dudes don't get to declare other white dudes ain't white supremacists just because they say so. It don't work that way, bub. You choose to ignore the facts. Fine. Play dumb. I know.
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:53 pm

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Gord wrote:They could give you a tetanus shot, for one thing.


... or they may go straight for the amputation.


GO AND GET IT CHECKED OUT, BOBBO!

Amputation could be considered. The wound is slightly closer to the index finger but both knuckles (Index and "Social") are swollen. Hmmm, think I'd chop the index if I had to..... love being social.

So....last night before sleep, area was slightly larger and slightly red. Immobility slightly worse. I thought: if its same or worse tomorrow, I'll go to the local pharmacist and ask if a cream would help........expecting to get some free medical advice.....Also thought I should call my Doc and see if she gave me that Tetanus Booster on one of my first visits. She gave me the anti-shingles shot and a few others. YES...my medical is "free" ($50 for a short visit) at the Veterans Affairs....but...the cost as stated is having to wait in line and being called "Sir."

BUT........Hallelujah..this morning the redness is gone, the swelling is slightly reduced as is the stiffness. The body is on repair. Hooray for my body....

This injury is still kinda remarkable. so little....at first, thought the ice pick might even not have pierced the skin, thats how minimal it was.....but the slightly prick and the whole hand is incapacitated for 3 days. What happened? Can I follow Hillary and blame the Russkies? I've always thought of ice picks as "evil." Saw a few movies with "ice pick killers" and reminded of Kurt Vonnegut's description of humans as little bags that die if they get a little hole. Devil of a way to die?===slow bleed out (internally) and can't stop it with pressure.

Poodle: coincidentally, the ice pick came out of its handle as I was chipping away at the ice block that formed in my FIRST BATCH EVER of banana wine. I used the ice/freezing distillation process...and I think it works very fine for my purposes. I don't drink hard booze....so I don't know if this wine is exactly what it should be or is a bit off. I did drink 4 ounces of the stuff and got a slight buzz. I'd like to get an alcohol measure of it, but don't want to buy the instrument for the 2-3 times I would use it. Hmmmm....I wonder if the freezing charts result in a good estimate? This encourages me to continue on with an actual still.....should only take a few years to finally get to that.....

Ain't life a joy...... if you don't kill yourself in the process?

Edit: as a "wine" this stuff sucks.....but as a mixed drink, I still can't tell....but it is most likely just the fact that I dont like straight alcohol or even most wines. The wines I like don't taste good to me until after the 2 or 3 sip. Even beer is slightly off for the first half sip....thats why I'm a beer man. Ha, ha....plain water actually tastes good to me..... but .... you know.
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:02 pm

Aztexan wrote:White dudes don't get to declare other white dudes ain't white supremacists just because they say so. It don't work that way, bub. You choose to ignore the facts. Fine. Play dumb. I know.

I agree.... with the emphasis on: "just because they say so..."

I do wonder the denial of white privilege. Subtle stuff going on there. I suppose its very much dependent on how you define it..... and then how you want to apply it??? Personal vs Group responsibility...........when 99% of Group Responsibility is total BS... and the remaining 1% is suspect? Jumping five steps ahead: the explanation I like is to stop the discrimination and society giving help to "all" those who need it.... with all attendant rules etc. Which brings us back to "Black Lives Matter" or is it "All Lives Matter"? And of course: it depends on what you talking about.
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Poodle » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:16 pm

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:... Ha, ha....plain water actually tastes good to me..... but .... you know.

You still have no excuse. You can ferment a (something you'll have to invent a name for) from just water, sugar, yeast and a few nutrients (in jails, they use any of the commercial yeast extracts e.g. Marmite or Vegemite as nutrient). I've done it and it works. Of course, using one of the modern super-yeasts, that's the technique for creating a wash for distillation, but that's cheating.

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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:26 pm

A simple sugar mash is recommended for beginners like me to learn their equipment. For instance....I actually lost half my production because my largest storage bottle had a very small leak. Good not to waste any good stuff on that storage bottle... so it is out.

I have wondered about the "need" for nutrients. it is recommended in several different mash recipes. Since you advise it, it must make a difference?==>but how much? EG.....with nutrients...will enough more alcohol be produced to at least pay for the cost of the nutrients? IE==yes it increases production, but is it Necessary as in cost effective?

Again, I started with banana wine simply because I got the bananas for free. would have to buy sugar but its cheap enough to make booze with once you figure out how to do it. Making a mash out of Farmer Source Feed Grain seems about the cheapest way to go if you have such a store near abouts. I can get all the bananas I want about twice a year.

Edit: Poodle.... the way you state it is not clear. Can you use Vegemite as a nutrient or are you using it as your source of yeast?.............or both???
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Major Malfunction » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:30 pm

Take it off at the neck. Only way to be sure.
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Postby Major Malfunction » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:44 pm

Um... Wait... Are we talking about ferment or foment here?
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Poodle » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:47 pm

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:A simple sugar mash is recommended for beginners like me to learn their equipment. For instance....I actually lost half my production because my largest storage bottle had a very small leak. Good not to waste any good stuff on that storage bottle... so it is out.

I have wondered about the "need" for nutrients. it is recommended in several different mash recipes. Since you advise it, it must make a difference?==>but how much? EG.....with nutrients...will enough more alcohol be produced to at least pay for the cost of the nutrients? IE==yes it increases production, but is it Necessary as in cost effective?

Again, I started with banana wine simply because I got the bananas for free. would have to buy sugar but its cheap enough to make booze with once you figure out how to do it. Making a mash out of Farmer Source Feed Grain seems about the cheapest way to go if you have such a store near abouts. I can get all the bananas I want about twice a year.

Edit: Poodle.... the way you state it is not clear. Can you use Vegemite as a nutrient or are you using it as your source of yeast?.............or both???


It's a nutrient (made from dead yeast cells). It isn't a source of yeast. And it must be used very sparingly unless you really love the taste of the stuff. Anyway - the need. If you're starting with a lot of fruit, you don't need extra nutrient because some gunk will get through and gunk is a good nutrient. If you're using commercial nutrient, a level 5 mil (teaspoon) spoonful per gallon is maximum. The jailhouse brewers THINK the yeast comes from the Vegemite but they're wrong - in their case, it's stray yeast cells floating around in the air or commercial yeast smuggled in.

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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Poodle » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:48 pm

Sorry, peeps - we sidetracked.


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