Both Sides of the Debate

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Both Sides of the Debate

Postby Cadmusteeth » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:38 am

That funny thing about talking to those we disagree with:
https://youtu.be/ZB-Iwuq5VN4

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Re: Both Sides of the Debate

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:18 am

Reminds me of "Both Sides of Playing the Piano" or doing Brain Surgery, or flying airplanes.

Just like "thinking" or "knowing the world."

Why SHOULD you know how to do ANY of these things if you haven't studied/practice how to do it?

People generally confuse being able to flap their lips with having an opinion.
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Re: Both Sides of the Debate

Postby Cadmusteeth » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:24 am

I think you mean a "valid" opinion.

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Re: Both Sides of the Debate

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:29 am

Nope. Most flapping lips/talking points/shills don't even comprise an opinion. Like a parrot.

Valid comes after a whole lot more thinking/informing one's self than generally goes on.

You know: STUDY./ training. It is my point...........and I've thought about it. Don't flap my lips very often.......while its always a constant risk....... a tug, if you will.
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Re: Both Sides of the Debate

Postby Cadmusteeth » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:32 am

Whatever you say.

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Re: Both Sides of the Debate

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:33 am

No, its not whatever I say. Just a position that can be defended.
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Re: Both Sides of the Debate

Postby ElectricMonk » Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:42 am

Interesting point in the vid that you can be confirmation-biased towards the truth if that is what you are primarily exposed to.
But being usually right requires to live in a culture that allows critical discourse and values empirical data.
So even if I believe in Climate Change, not because I understand the arguments and data, but because my mates say so, chances are I will still be more exposed to scientific debate than if I lived in a culture which rejects a claim as a matter of faith/principle etc.
I've come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to technologies:
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2. Anything that's invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it.
3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things.
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