Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby Poodle » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:30 pm

placid wrote:... if your too lazy to stop replying to me ...

'you're' not 'your'. What on Earth is happening to education in the Hebrides?

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby placid » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:34 pm

Poodle wrote:
placid wrote:... if your too lazy to stop replying to me ...

'you're' not 'your'. What on Earth is happening to education in the Hebrides?


I don't know..but I do know it's bloody cold and windy up here.


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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby Poodle » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:38 pm

I'd sort of agree with that, placid - but I'd do a bit of research first, just in case.

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby placid » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:45 pm

Poodle wrote:I'd sort of agree with that, placid - but I'd do a bit of research first, just in case.


To re-search means you are only searching for what's already here long before you entered the scene. Who ever you are.

Nothing belongs to you. It's not your knowledge.

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby scrmbldggs » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:31 pm

S/he who opens topics and attacks users had no ground to stand on.
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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby placid » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:42 pm

scrmbldggs wrote:S/he who opens topics and attacks users had no ground to stand on.


I think your talking to the wrong person.

Scroll down the first page of this thread to see...
Therefore we can conclude Placid's knowledge is incorrect and Placid is a complete idiot.


And then see I do not attack unless I'm attacked first.

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby scrmbldggs » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:42 pm

What person?
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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby scrmbldggs » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:44 pm

btw, this proves you wrong. :pardon:
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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby placid » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:48 pm

scrmbldggs wrote:btw, this proves you wrong. :pardon:


That was a warning, not an attack, since I've been repeatedly attacked on this forum, I think I am entitled to offer a warning to people that I wish not to be attacked again.

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby placid » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:49 pm

scrmbldggs wrote:What person?


The person you believe yourself to be, the name tag, the claimed one.

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby scrmbldggs » Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:10 pm

placid wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:What person?


The person you believe yourself to be, the name tag, the claimed one.

You said: "I think your talking to the wrong person."

placid wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:S/he who opens topics and attacks users had no ground to stand on.


I think your talking to the wrong person.

Scroll down the first page of this thread to see...
Therefore we can conclude Placid's knowledge is incorrect and Placid is a complete idiot.


And then see I do not attack unless I'm attacked first.


You weren't talking about me (or any other user), you declared that person to be the you that felt addressed.
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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby Confidencia » Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:13 pm

placid wrote:The I can only know what it does not know.


Man can know and understand his own being and therefore solve the riddle of his own consciousness.

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby scrmbldggs » Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:19 pm

"Making tea serves precious potentiality"
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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby placid » Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:32 pm

scrmbldggs wrote:
placid wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:What person?


The person you believe yourself to be, the name tag, the claimed one.

You said: "I think your talking to the wrong person."

placid wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:S/he who opens topics and attacks users had no ground to stand on.


I think your talking to the wrong person.

Scroll down the first page of this thread to see...
Therefore we can conclude Placid's knowledge is incorrect and Placid is a complete idiot.


And then see I do not attack unless I'm attacked first.


You weren't talking about me (or any other user), you declared that person to be the you that felt addressed.


Okay, well you've lost me a bit here, but what I'm saying is that I only attack if I'm attacked first.

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby placid » Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:35 pm

Confidencia wrote:
placid wrote:The I can only know what it does not know.


Man can know and understand his own being and therefore solve the riddle of his own consciousness.


I agree, the mind can know itself.

But that in which the mind arises is beyond mans knowing.

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Re: Human Brain Debunk / Calculator Scenario

Postby Confidencia » Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:38 pm

placid wrote:
Matthew Nobody wrote:
Secondly, no human brain can calculate really complex mathematical equations so it must be something real and external like the electrons in the calculator.

Either the answer is correct or it isn't. You are pretending an incorrect answer could be imagined as correct, but then no calculator in the world would ever need to be correct. Yet in reality calculators always give the same correct answer.



Firstly, that's because there is no such thing as a human brain.

Secondly, calculators can't display anything without there first being a programmer instructing the calculator to do it's job.


If we both took it in turns to hit him on the head with a lump hammer after ever syllable I would still doubt whether the aforementioned statements would get through. Ellards is as thick as two short planks.

Have you ever tried hitting a nail in a block of dense hard wood? My experience shows me that you must repeatedly hit it real hard in order to drive it in :lol:

So potentially we could be here for a while tying to get these block heads to understand simple concepts.

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby Confidencia » Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:38 pm

placid wrote:
Confidencia wrote:
placid wrote:The I can only know what it does not know.


Man can know and understand his own being and therefore solve the riddle of his own consciousness.


I agree, the mind can know itself.

But that in which the mind arises is beyond mans knowing.


Of course.

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby placid » Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:41 pm

Confidencia wrote:
placid wrote:
Confidencia wrote:
placid wrote:The I can only know what it does not know.


Man can know and understand his own being and therefore solve the riddle of his own consciousness.


I agree, the mind can know itself.

But that in which the mind arises is beyond mans knowing.


Of course.


When you listen to a thought, you are aware not only of the thought but also of yourself as the witness of the thought. A new dimension of consciousness has come in. ET

I love that your here too Confidencia.

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Re: Human Brain Debunk / Calculator Scenario

Postby placid » Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:46 pm

Confidencia wrote:
placid wrote:
Matthew Nobody wrote:
Secondly, no human brain can calculate really complex mathematical equations so it must be something real and external like the electrons in the calculator.

Either the answer is correct or it isn't. You are pretending an incorrect answer could be imagined as correct, but then no calculator in the world would ever need to be correct. Yet in reality calculators always give the same correct answer.



Firstly, that's because there is no such thing as a human brain.

Secondly, calculators can't display anything without there first being a programmer instructing the calculator to do it's job.


If we both took it in turns to hit him on the head with a lump hammer after ever syllable I would still doubt whether the aforementioned statements would get through. Ellards is as thick as two short planks.

Have you ever tried hitting a nail in a block of dense hard wood? My experience shows me that you must repeatedly hit it real hard in order to drive it in :lol:



So potentially we could be here for a while tying to get these block heads to understand simple concepts.


LOL..it's a filthy job but someone has to do it.

This message touches a very vulnerable spot in Matt that he cannot cope, it's just too overwhelming ..and so it turns to hatred, the hatred is so palpable in his replies. The ego is so fragile and insecure, if only it knew the real truth that it has nothing to fear and that it's true nature is the lion heart.

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby Aztexan » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:40 pm

Matthew doesn't hate you. His ridicule and laughing at you is an act of love.
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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby Aztexan » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:42 pm

The mind is a vast ocean that it cannot swim in, so it drowns in its own ignorance

Humanity searches as if it knows where to look

This is fun. You guys should try it. It literally takes no thought to come up with this {!#%@}.
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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby Aztexan » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:45 pm

Consciousness is an entity that does not exist until it ceases being
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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby scrmbldggs » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:46 pm

placid wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:
placid wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:What person?


The person you believe yourself to be, the name tag, the claimed one.

You said: "I think your talking to the wrong person."

placid wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:S/he who opens topics and attacks users had no ground to stand on.


I think your talking to the wrong person.

Scroll down the first page of this thread to see...
Therefore we can conclude Placid's knowledge is incorrect and Placid is a complete idiot.


And then see I do not attack unless I'm attacked first.


You weren't talking about me (or any other user), you declared that person to be the you that felt addressed.


Okay, well you've lost me a bit here, but what I'm saying is that I only attack if I'm attacked first.

But why would you attack yourSelf at all? Enjoy the games?



(If so, then don't complain, plz.)
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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby Nikki Nyx » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:47 pm

Aztexan wrote:
Nikki Nyx wrote:
Aztexan wrote:What was never heard was never spoken

Humanity is the canvas and space is the artist and time is the brush that brings it to life

To gaze into the skies is to look inward and see emptiness
The fourth quote is the best one, although it only exists as potential at the moment. Will you fulfill your destiny and post the fourth quote? Or will you exert your free will and refuse to comply with fate?
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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby Aztexan » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:49 pm

Mankind is an afterthought

Nothingness is the lovechild of space and time

Forever has yet to begin

You cannot be if you are able to question or ponder existence
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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

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:clapping:
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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby Aztexan » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:56 pm

Danke
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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby Nikki Nyx » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:58 pm

Aztexan wrote:The mind is a vast ocean that it cannot swim in, so it drowns in its own ignorance

Humanity searches as if it knows where to look

This is fun. You guys should try it. It literally takes no thought to come up with this {!#%@}.
Ooh...can I play?

There can be no death because life is a dream. (Sh-boom.)

The mind encompasses all realities except the one in which it exists.

Consciousness is the bluebird of happiness on no one's shoulder.

You're right, Az! This is fun!
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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby Aztexan » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:05 pm

We missed our calling as fortune cookie writers.
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Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Postby Matthew Ellard » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:06 pm

Well this is a complete waste of time. At least Gustaave is gone and his demand that we sing Hari hari hari and stop eating onions. :lol:

Gustaave wrote:if you really want to be happy then follow these 6 Things which are No illicit sex, No gambling, No drugs ( No tea & coffee ), No meat-eating ( No onion & garlic's and 6th " Main Thing " is you have to Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare ".

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Back to Debunking
Confidencia and Placid keep running away from my basic debunking question about their religious claim electrons aren't real. Currently, they claim when we use a hand calculator or computer, we imagine the resulting calculations. But if that were true no technological device would ever exist because imagined numbers aren't accurate numbers. The technology would never work.......yet here we all are using computers.

Therefore electrons are real. Electrons are not figments of our imagination and Placid's Advaita Vedanta religion is debunked on its main premise.

QED
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Re: Human Brain Debunk / Calculator Scenario

Postby Confidencia » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:21 pm

placid wrote:
Confidencia wrote:
placid wrote:
Matthew Nobody wrote:
Secondly, no human brain can calculate really complex mathematical equations so it must be something real and external like the electrons in the calculator.

Either the answer is correct or it isn't. You are pretending an incorrect answer could be imagined as correct, but then no calculator in the world would ever need to be correct. Yet in reality calculators always give the same correct answer.



Firstly, that's because there is no such thing as a human brain.

Secondly, calculators can't display anything without there first being a programmer instructing the calculator to do it's job.


If we both took it in turns to hit him on the head with a lump hammer after ever syllable I would still doubt whether the aforementioned statements would get through. Ellards is as thick as two short planks.

Have you ever tried hitting a nail in a block of dense hard wood? My experience shows me that you must repeatedly hit it real hard in order to drive it in :lol:



So potentially we could be here for a while tying to get these block heads to understand simple concepts.


LOL..it's a filthy job but someone has to do it.

This message touches a very vulnerable spot in Matt that he cannot cope, it's just too overwhelming ..and so it turns to hatred, the hatred is so palpable in his replies. The ego is so fragile and insecure, if only it knew the real truth that it has nothing to fear and that it's true nature is the lion heart.


As long as he's hiding behind his books he will remain ignorant of his own ignorance.

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Re: Human Brain Debunk / Calculator Scenario

Postby Matthew Ellard » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:27 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:Secondly, no human brain can calculate really complex mathematical equations so it must be something real and external like the electrons in the calculator.
Confidencia wrote:Firstly, that's because there is no such thing as a human brain.
Nope that already proven, as engineers using calculators and computers built the computer you are typing on. Are you now pretending you are typing on an imaginary computer that you bought from an imaginary computer shop? :lol:

QED the Advaita religion is debunked.
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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Postby Confidencia » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:33 pm

scrmbldggs wrote:"Making tea serves precious potentiality"


Shall we have tea and biscuits then? :D

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Postby scrmbldggs » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:41 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:...At least Gustaave is gone and his demand that we sing Hari hari hari and stop eating onions. :lol:

Watch for new posts from this one to pop up. S/he sounds a lot like "Gustaave". :nuts:
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Re: Human Brain Debunk / Calculator Scenario

Postby Confidencia » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:49 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:
Matthew Ellard wrote:Secondly, no human brain can calculate really complex mathematical equations so it must be something real and external like the electrons in the calculator.
Confidencia wrote:Firstly, that's because there is no such thing as a human brain.
Nope that already proven, as engineers using calculators and computers built the computer you are typing on. Are you now pretending you are typing on an imaginary computer that you bought from an imaginary computer shop? :lol:

QED the Advaita religion is debunked.
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Yes. Whatever is happening is seen in the mind and not in the reality.

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Postby Matthew Ellard » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:51 pm

scrmbldggs wrote: Watch for new posts from this one to pop up. S/he sounds a lot like "Gustaave". :nuts:


Thanks for the warning.

Jeeez these people must be lonely. How on Earth did Gustaave know to "join in" recently if he wasn't monitoring the forum every week?

I can see why there is no "Advaita" forum. They can't stand each other and have to seek attention from normal people on normal science forums.

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Advaita Religion Debunk / Calculator Scenario

Postby Matthew Ellard » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:53 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote: QED the Advaita religion is debunked.
Confidencia wrote: Whatever is happening is seen in the mind and not in the reality.
Nope. We just debunked that. You are simply unable to make a coherent counter argument.

Bad Luck Shaka. :lol:

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Re: Advaita Religion Debunk / Calculator Scenario

Postby Confidencia » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:00 am

Matthew Ellard wrote:
Matthew Ellard wrote: QED the Advaita religion is debunked.
Confidencia wrote: Whatever is happening is seen in the mind and not in the reality.
Nope. We just debunked that. You are simply unable to make a coherent counter argument.

Bad Luck Shaka. :lol:


It's not that I can't make a coherent counter argument :mrgreen: its more to do with the fact that you haven't the capacity to comprehend one.

Then again the bigger picture has always been a problem for you to envisage. 8-)

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Re: Advaita Religion Debunk / Calculator Scenario

Postby Matthew Ellard » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:21 am

Matthew Ellard wrote:Nope. We just debunked that. You are simply unable to make a coherent counter argument.
Confidencia wrote: It's not that I can't make a coherent counter argument
Obviously you can't or you would.

You can't get around the fact that hundreds of people can separately enter a very complex mathematical question into their calculators and get the same accurate result. Your Advaita religion pretends that all these people imagine the answer. If that was so engineers could never have developed the computer you are posting on. :D

You have my permission to leave the forum as your Advaita religion has been shown to be a load of complete crap.
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Advaita Religion Debunk

Postby Matthew Ellard » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:18 am

I confirm that Gustaave's sock puppet "aean" has now also been banned. We only need two Advaita cult members for our entertainment.


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